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Los Angeles Is a Third World City
The Telegraph ^ | April 24, '08 | staff

Posted on 04/26/2008 9:17:42 AM PDT by T.L.Sink

A third of immigrants have not graduated from high school and 60 percent do not speak English fluently, the Migration Policy Institute found. These immigrants make up half the Los Angeles workforce. It said this left immigrants ill-equipped to fill California's fastest-growing occupations. The organization said that as the so-called baby boomers reach retirement age, a similar pattern will spread across the U.S. Ernesto Cortes, of the Industrial Area Foundation, a think-tank that specializes on social change said "The question is are we going to be a 21st century city or a Third World city with an elite group on top and most of the city on near poverty wages?" The U.S. Census Bureau last year predicted that by 2050, minorities will account for half the residents across America. In 2000, according to the Census Bureau, whites were in a minority in 262 counties, up from 183 in 1990. Nationally, the number of minorities topped 100 million for the first time in 2006.

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KEYWORDS: aliens; census; cities; democratutopia; dropouts; illegals; immigration; knownothings; losangeles
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The following is a quote from a recent N.Y. Times best-seller on the illegal alien invasion: "As tax consumers continue to flood in from Mexico, and taxpayers flee, California is sinking in a sea of red ink. Its bond rating has been been dropped by Standard & Poor's to almost junk-bond status, lowest of the fifty states. Fed up with rising crime rates and rising tax rates to subsidize illegal aliens, people are leaving as the California they grew up in and loved morphs into Mexifornia. California is going home to Mexico. Who can deny it? With 100,000 whites leaving each year and 43% of all Californians under eighteen Hispanic, California is becoming - indeed, has become - a Third World state."
1 posted on 04/26/2008 9:17:42 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink

The metaphor is no more adept than it was the last time this article was posted as a thread.


2 posted on 04/26/2008 9:19:46 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta; purpleraine

ping!


3 posted on 04/26/2008 9:21:19 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink

If you want a snapshot of the future of CA, look to the makeup of the 6 million+ schoolkids currently in K-12 grades. I doubt a less than desirable future for CA can be avoided.


4 posted on 04/26/2008 9:28:01 AM PDT by umgud
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To: T.L.Sink
A third of immigrants have not graduated from high school and 60 percent do not speak English fluently...

They can't even read or write in Spanish.

5 posted on 04/26/2008 9:28:10 AM PDT by donna ("Women are not little men, and men are not big women.")
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To: T.L.Sink

“The question is are we going to be a 21st century city or a Third World city with an elite group on top and most of the city on near poverty wages?”

Or......in other words........are we going to be just like Mexico?


6 posted on 04/26/2008 9:29:52 AM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: T.L.Sink
As tax consumers continue to flood in from Mexico, and taxpayers flee, California is sinking in a sea of red ink.

A very cogent observation. The people want illegal immigration stopped. Politicians of both parties do not. Politicians see the illegal invasion as an opportunity to expand the social welfare state and any expansion of that sector is an expansion of their political power. Just because the expansion is funded on more debt makes no difference to them, government stopped expanding programs with anything than more debt a long long time ago.

7 posted on 04/26/2008 9:30:02 AM PDT by Biblebelter (Barry, let your Uncle Jeremiah speak publicly, so he can set the record straight himself.)
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To: T.L.Sink

“as the so-called baby boomers reach retirement age”....

they are realizing they may have to work until they die!


8 posted on 04/26/2008 9:34:00 AM PDT by acoulterfan
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To: T.L.Sink

This immigration mess is an inevitable byproduct of two factors: (1) the Kennedy brothers’ immigration law of 1965 and (2) the failure to secure the border with Mexico. Neither is mentioned in the article. I wonder why.


9 posted on 04/26/2008 9:38:43 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

10 posted on 04/26/2008 9:44:34 AM PDT by littlehouse36 (Capitalism v. Socialism is a false dichotomy)
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To: littlehouse36

Wow, Maria S was very beautiful with a little meat on her bones!


11 posted on 04/26/2008 9:47:52 AM PDT by acoulterfan
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To: justiceseeker93

And not enforcing the laws of the 86 Amnesty


12 posted on 04/26/2008 9:48:48 AM PDT by acoulterfan
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To: RightWhale
A third of immigrants have not graduated from high school and 60 per cent do not speak English fluently, the Migration Policy Institute found.

"As tax consumers continue to flood in from Mexico, and taxpayers flee, California is sinking in a sea of red ink. Its bond rating has been been dropped by Standard & Poor's to almost junk-bond status, lowest of the fifty states.

With 100,000 whites leaving each year and 43% of all Californians under eighteen Hispanic, California is becoming - indeed, has become - a Third World state."

And this is the trash that Juan MxCain wants to give the vote to.
13 posted on 04/26/2008 9:53:13 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: T.L.Sink

The future history books might rename it “Fort Sumter”.


14 posted on 04/26/2008 9:53:36 AM PDT by Uncle George
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To: littlehouse36

Yes, Schwarzenegger is an immigrant but you can’t say he is “third world.”


15 posted on 04/26/2008 9:58:10 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: T.L.Sink

Los Angeles Is a Third World City, and so are New Orleans, Miami, and New York.


16 posted on 04/26/2008 9:58:40 AM PDT by flowerplough (I suck at Photoshop)
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To: T.L.Sink

Los Angeles Is a Third World City...

jorge bush’s legacy and juan mccaian and all lib/dem’s plans for the future of the USA!!!


17 posted on 04/26/2008 10:04:37 AM PDT by nyyankeefan
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To: T.L.Sink

La-La land is not quite there yet, but it is certainly well on the way.


18 posted on 04/26/2008 10:06:50 AM PDT by webschooner
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To: justiceseeker93

I need not mean to imply the Arnold was third world or even that he was an immigrant. But that Gov. Schwarzenegger had long ago married a Kennedy. I was replying to the poster who linked to the Kennedy brothers’ immigration bill of 1965.

Sorry for confusion.


19 posted on 04/26/2008 10:08:55 AM PDT by littlehouse36 (Capitalism v. Socialism is a false dichotomy)
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To: T.L.Sink

I don’t know that I would call L.A. a third world type of place but according to the U.S. Census Mississippi has the lowest per capita income of any state and L.A.’s per capita income was a few hundred dollars below even Mississippi’s .
Since metaphors can’t be “adept” (see #2) I’d say L.A. should ask Mississippi how they do so well.
(Maybe he meant “apt” or “apropos”)


20 posted on 04/26/2008 10:10:19 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: T.L.Sink
"Census Bureau last year predicted that by 2050, minorities will account for half the residents across America."

Then I guess they won't be called "Minories' anymore, will they.

Only white people will be a minority. Are now from what I see.

21 posted on 04/26/2008 10:27:58 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: justiceseeker93

“I need not mean to imply the Arnold was third world or even that he was an immigrant. “

Sorry, I need more caffeine.

“I did not mean to imply that Arnold...”


22 posted on 04/26/2008 10:34:14 AM PDT by littlehouse36 (Capitalism v. Socialism is a false dichotomy)
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To: T.L.Sink

"Mayor MEChA:"

Read about how a pro-communist, ultra radical "MEChista" named Tony Villar cut his hair, changed his name, put on a tie, and became the mayor of America's second largest city.

23 posted on 04/26/2008 10:35:48 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: donna

That’s right. One of my favorite comments was made by the late Bill Buckley when he was asked whether the enormous costs of teaching bilingual education could be justified. He replied only if one wants to produce more students who are “semi-literate in two languages.”


24 posted on 04/26/2008 10:42:20 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: EggsAckley; Biblebelter

We ARE becoming more like a Third World Mexico because a “reconquista” is taking place - and not just in the border states but everywhere, even in suburban and rural areas that until recently didn’t even know what an illegal alien was. For example, we can all witness the fact that we’re now a de facto bilingual society. Spanish is everywhere - advertisements, public schools, newspapers, retail stores, public safety/emergency announcements, gov’t. websites, etc., etc.


25 posted on 04/26/2008 10:56:43 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: justiceseeker93

I think you’re absolutely right about the ‘65 immigration law and our (suicidal) failure to secure our borders. In regard to the article, I can only guess that since they just wanted to focus on L.A. they limited themselves to that. After all, volumes could be written about the subject in general.


26 posted on 04/26/2008 11:07:17 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: acoulterfan

Good point. Ed Meese, who was part of that, says that because state and local authorities never upheld their part of the deal - enforcement - it failed. I think the lesson we should have learned from that is that we must SECURE the border first before there are any discussions about citizenship, etc. By the way, Ed Meese says that now and opposes any kind of disguised “amnesty” plans by Congress.


27 posted on 04/26/2008 11:17:35 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink
Theres an easy solution


Jalopeno flavor!

28 posted on 04/26/2008 11:22:41 AM PDT by Bommer
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To: flowerplough

You’re right about that. Just a personal anecdote: I had occasion to live in Miami and the first and second generations of Cubans who came over learned English (or made certain their children did) and were very productive people who were successful in the business and professional world. Our Sen. Mel Martinez (R) is a good example. But that all changed when Castro emptied his prisons and sent all his degenerates and mentally deranged people here. Remember that imbecile Jimmy Carter welcoming the mariolitas to our shores?


29 posted on 04/26/2008 11:33:05 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink

They have figured out how to increase revenue as well as import more Mexicans. Home owners now have to fix their own sidewalks.

They are thinking of kicking soccer Mom’s and Mexican gardeners out of the carpool lanes and turning those lanes into toll lanes for the rich. A dollar per mile.

They are going to increase the number of street cleaning days so that they can tow more cars and have more income from tickets.

They are going to increase the parking meters to $4.00 an hour.

They are going to tax us on our phone bills $2.25 a month for 911 calls.

They just misled voters into voting for a 9 percent phone tax by withholding the fact that the current 10 percent tax was illegal.

We have to place our kids in private schools as well as pay for the public immigrant schools.

And this from the Daily News;
Next week the City Council is set to vote on subsidies for Grand Avenue development, which include letting the developers keep the first $60 million they raise through the hotel bed tax - a subsidy so overly generous it prompted another downtown hotel to file a lawsuit, which was recently settled.

The redevelopment project would also get to keep $5.5 million in parking taxes as well as $24 million from the Community Redevelopment Agency, $29 million in improvements paid for by local government and $4.6 million from the county.

That’s an outrageous giveaway to rich developers and operators of luxury hotels and retail shops when working Angelenos are being forced to pay higher fees just to cover basic city services.


30 posted on 04/26/2008 11:39:00 AM PDT by Haddit (A Hunter Conservative)
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To: T.L.Sink

What is the name of the N.Y. Times best-seller you quoted from, T.L.? Thanks!


31 posted on 04/26/2008 11:41:27 AM PDT by Nea Wood (I'm not a bad Christian because I refuse to join you in giving other people's stuff away.)
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To: nyyankeefan

I totally agree. American citizens have become the victims of the ethnocentric lobby, the special business interests (U.S. Chamber of Commerce, etc.) who love low wages with no benefits, better yet, ‘off the books,’ and politicians who pander to the Hispanic vote. They don’t give a damn about us citizens who have to pay the bills and live with the mess they’ve created. And you’re right - all three presidential contenders promise us more of the same.


32 posted on 04/26/2008 11:46:53 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink

I hope the conservatives in Mexifornia close shop and move out. After that I hope the whole state turns into a violent, 3rd world, socialist cesspool that demands the rest of the US support it. Only then will people wake up. We can either wall it off or take it back, your choice.


33 posted on 04/26/2008 11:50:29 AM PDT by navyguy (Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue.)
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To: Nea Wood

The book is “State of Emergency - The Third World Invasion and Conquest of America,” by Pat Buchanan. Let me hastily say that I don’t agree with some of Pat’s political views but his book was very well researched and documented. Even his harshest critics admit that. In other words, it’s as factual and objective as one can expect. I recommend you read it and decide for yourself. Regards,


34 posted on 04/26/2008 11:56:26 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: webschooner

I hope I’m wrong but I think we’re approaching the point of no return. It isn’t any SINGLE problem but a whole series of problems on the liberal/socialist agenda which - in the aggregate - are destroying us. I think it was Justice Renhquist who said that every day he woke up he found it more and more difficult to recognize his own nation.


35 posted on 04/26/2008 12:13:32 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink

Where I work I am a minority because of H1B visas. They and green card holders make up seriously 90% of the company. When shopping I feel like I’m in Mexico. I don’t see America anywhere except my own backyard. Sad.


36 posted on 04/26/2008 12:30:38 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (The FReeper Foxhole. America's history, America's soul.)
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To: T.L.Sink

It’s a topic that hasn’t been brought up by Congress, but can’t we give California back to Mexico?

Tourism in California would still continue. Perhaps the attraction to emmigrating to California (an entitlement mentality - too many people going there looking for the proverbial something for nothing) may evaporate once California is no longer subsidized by the American taxpayer.

Of course, anytime a state offers “free” goodies paid for by someone else it’s going to attract a lot of leaches.

What you guys think of that idea?

States succeeding from the Union is a good idea and it’s Constitutionally valid.

California could succeed from the Union and become an independent republic or it could “join” Mexico.

Yours truly,
The Woim


37 posted on 04/26/2008 12:34:22 PM PDT by The Woim (Agitating for social change also means fighting to abolish the Dept of Education)
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To: count-your-change

Wow! You’re posing quite a question. I don’t know the answer but my conjecture would be this: The people of Mississipi, despite long historical economic problems, are generally an independent and can-do people who take pride in self-reliance and not looking to lean on the government for solutions. This was evident when Hurricane Katrina devasted the Gulf region. We saw the city of New Orleans - a Democratic bastion forever which is lost without government nursing and support - totally unable to take the initiative. This wasn’t just because of the population density and the breaking of the levees. It was because the city and its populace were completely imbued with a welfare, dependent mentality that was unable and unwilling to take the initiative and fend for itself. Of course, there were notable exceptions. But, on the whole, New Orleans was a basket case compared to Mississippi and Gov. Haley Barbour. I think L.A. is more like New Orleans to the extent it’s got the helpless welfare mentality.


38 posted on 04/26/2008 12:45:08 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink
Ahhhhhhh! I loved LA.

LA is now where they will let an illegal alien gang member out of jail four times to the streets of LA (no call to immigration) and he will kill your child on the street the day after the fourth release.

LA where the mayor will come to the scene of the crime and give a speech about how we have to do something about gang violence; like set up another bureaucrat in the mayor's office.

LA where the police are not allowed to identify illegals on the street.

LA where schools now have classes in Graffiti Art. LA where you can't read some highway signs because they are obliterated with graffiti.

Hey! We're all Angelinos donchano?

39 posted on 04/26/2008 12:52:01 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: Nathan Zachary

I think whites are now America’s largest minority group! Or maybe a PLURALITY group. Anyway, I’m waiting for the moment I can assert affirmative action status and get some of my money back! What a world!


40 posted on 04/26/2008 12:54:50 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: Travis McGee

I’m serious when I tell you that before I scrolled down to your comments I thought some FReeper had posted some photos of a rebellion in some banana republic. You must be referring to Villaraigosa, Mayor of L.A. Come to think of it, the rebellion has been successful and he is the mayor of a banana republic! As you say, he’s put on a suit and tie and is now a respectable Hillary supporter. I’m sure she’s promised L.A. some foreign aid!


41 posted on 04/26/2008 1:13:48 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: navyguy

It sounds to me like that’s already happening and all the people who are able are getting out. I’m sure there are still many who are remaining in “safe” cililized enclaves but the smart people know what the future will bring. By the way, how many conservatives beside yourself are in California? Out of a population of 34 million there must be at least a million?!


42 posted on 04/26/2008 1:47:20 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink

“Spanish is everywhere - advertisements, public schools, newspapers, retail stores, public safety/emergency announcements, gov’t. websites, etc., etc.”

And I am hearing more and more mariachi music on overhead intercom/piped in music in more and more local stores down here in San Diego. The latest time for me was CVS just up the hill from the Fairmount Home Depot Labor Site.


43 posted on 04/26/2008 1:53:56 PM PDT by acoulterfan
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To: purpleraine

I really have difficulty internalizing all the horrible facts you’ve enumerated even though I’m aware they’re true. It may sound like hype but I’m convinced that we’re losing what’s been best about America and its highest civilized values. Samuel Huntington, author of the internationally acclaimed “The Clash of Civilizations,” and Harvard professor, said recently “Demographically, socially, and culturally, the reconquista of the Southwest United States ...is well underway.”


44 posted on 04/26/2008 2:15:35 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink

” The question is are we going to be a 21st century city or a Third World city with an elite group on top and most of the city on near poverty wages?”

The NEW WORLD ORDER - the FUTURE of the USA .


45 posted on 04/26/2008 2:22:08 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: T.L.Sink

26 April 2008

TIJUANA, Mexico (Reuters) - Fifteen Mexican drug gang members were killed in a gun battle near the U.S. border on Saturday, their bodies soaked in blood in the road after one of the deadliest shootouts in Mexico’s three-year-long narco-war.

Rival factions of the local Arellano Felix drug cartel in Tijuana on the Mexico-California border fought each other with rifles and machine guns in the early hours of the morning, police said.......

Across the border from San Diego


46 posted on 04/26/2008 3:05:06 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: T.L.Sink; SoCalPol; dennisw

http://spartanspectator.blogspot.com/2008/04/msu-leftists-seize-wells-hall-bridge.html

Check out the Michigan State Univ. website of the YAF linked above. The MEChA and La Raza crowd took over a pedestrian bridge on campus, and demanded ID’s from the gringos. The funniest part is when they chant “the border crossed us!” And this is in MICHIGAN!


47 posted on 04/26/2008 3:51:55 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: T.L.Sink
The only value the people in LA have is open borders and political power. They subbordinate everything else to that value, even the prevention of murder.

Where was Jesse Jackson or Al Sharptongue when this kid was killed? Where was the march on City Hall. Where was the uproar in the Times? Nowhere! Because it goes against the open border agenda.

You have 500,000 in the street screaming for services to illegals and nothing when a kid is killed by one of them.

You have a state that's $14 bill in the hole and where the call to cut services to illegals..............nowhere!

So I agree, the battle is over in southern California.

48 posted on 04/26/2008 5:30:06 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: T.L.Sink
"The question is are we going to be a 21st century city with shared prosperity, or a Third World city with an elite group on top and most on near poverty wages?" he said.

The elite group on top still won't want a Mexican border fence, but they'll have one around their property...

49 posted on 04/26/2008 5:51:51 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: SoCalPol; sushiman

To me, it’s incredible. From what I’ve read and seen on Lou Dobbs’ program the Mexican drug lords and other gangsters are actually invading U.S. territory and shooting at our Border Patrol with high-powered weapons. There was a time when the nation - from the President and Congress down - would have responded to this as an act of war, an armed assault and murder of Americans defending our sovereign territory. Even that liberal Democrat Woodrow Wilson invaded Mexico when they abused American citizens. What’s become of this once fiercely proud and independent nation? It seems that we’ve become wimps and are even too afraid to defend our own territory and our citizens who risk their lives to defend our national sovereignty!


50 posted on 04/26/2008 9:09:22 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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