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Reno Urged To Prepare For Worse As Quakes Continue
ap/cbs ^ | Apr 26, 2008 7:42 pm US/Pacific

Posted on 04/26/2008 8:24:44 PM PDT by BenLurkin

RENO, Nev. (AP) ― Scientists urged residents of northern Nevada's largest city to prepare for a bigger event as the area continued rumbling Saturday after the largest earthquake in a two-month-long series of temblors.

More than 100 aftershocks were recorded on the western edge of the city after a magnitude 4.7 quake hit Friday night, the strongest quake around Reno since one measuring 5.2 in 1953, said researchers at the seismological laboratory at the University of Nevada, Reno.

The latest quake swept store shelves clean, cracked walls in homes and dislodged rocks on hillsides, but there were no reports of injuries or widespread major damage.

Seismologists said the recent activity is unusual because the quakes started out small and continue to build in strength. The normal pattern is for a main quake followed by smaller aftershocks.

"A magnitude 6 quake wouldn't be a scientific surprise," John Anderson, director of the seismological lab, said Saturday. "We certainly hope residents are taking the threat seriously after last night."

But Anderson stressed there was no way to predict what would happen, and said the sequence of quakes also could end without a major one.

Reno's last major quake measured 6.1 on April 24, 1914, and was felt as far away as Berkeley, Calif., said Craig dePolo, research geologist with the Nevada Bureau of Mines and Geology.

A rockslide triggered by Friday night's quake was blamed for causing a 125-foot breach in a wooden flume that carries water to one of two water treatment plants in Reno, a city of about 210,000.

A backup pump was used to divert water to the plant, and the breach was not expected to cause any water shortages, said Aaron Kenneston, Washoe County emergency management officer.

The U.S. Geological Survey said Friday night's quake was centered around Mogul, just west of Reno. The area of upscale homes along the eastern Sierra was rattled by more than 100 quakes the day before, the strongest a magnitude 4.2 that caused high-rise casinos to sway in downtown Reno.

The strongest aftershock measured 3.7 and was recorded early Saturday.

Mike Lentini of Reno said Friday night's quake felt "like a big truck hit the building" and awakened his family.

"It's the unknown. It's shaking, and when's it going to stop?" he said Saturday. "And when stuff starts falling off the shelves it's a whole other ballgame."

Jars of mayonnaise and bottles of ketchup and shampoo fell from shelves at a Wal-Mart store in northwest Reno. Overhead televisions swayed at a sports bar in neighboring Sparks, 11 miles east, where bartender Shawn Jones said the rumble was significantly stronger than Thursday's event.

"The bottles were shaking, so I sent everybody outside," he said.

Hundreds of mostly minor quakes have occurred along one or possibly more faults since the sequence began Feb. 28, said Ken Smith, a seismologist at the Reno laboratory. The quakes have occurred along an area about 2 miles long and a half-mile wide.

"We can't put a number on it, but the probability of a major earthquake has increased with this sequence," Smith said Saturday. "People need to prepare for ground shaking because there's no way to say how this will play out."

Among other things, scientists urged residents to stock up on water and food, to learn how to turn off water and gas, and to strap down bookshelves, televisions and computers.

"It's getting a little bit frightening," Daryl DiBitonto of Reno told the Reno Gazette-Journal. "I'm very concerned about this increase in not only activity, but also in magnitude."

The quakes around Reno began a week after a magnitude 6 temblor in the northern Nevada town of Wells, near the Utah border. The Feb. 21 quake caused an estimated $778,000 in damage to homes, schools and historic downtown buildings, dePolo said.

Scientists said they're unsure whether the seismic activity at opposite sides of Nevada is related.

Nevada is the third most seismically active state in the U.S. behind California and Alaska. The Wells quake was the 15th of at least magnitude 6 in the state's 143-year history.

A magnitude-7.4 quake south of Winnemucca in 1915 is the most powerful in state history.


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1 posted on 04/26/2008 8:24:44 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin
"We can't put a number on it, but the probability of a major earthquake has increased with this sequence," Smith said Saturday. "People need to prepare for ground shaking because there's no way to say how this will play out."

Among other things, scientists urged residents to stock up on water and food, to learn how to turn off water and gas, and to strap down bookshelves, televisions and computers.

2 posted on 04/26/2008 8:26:20 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

They do seem to be getting smaller. Three in the last hour at about 1.7


3 posted on 04/26/2008 8:29:59 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: BenLurkin
"And when stuff starts falling off the shelves it's a whole other ballgame."

When the earthquakes shakin'

Said there's gonna be war

Tell the National Guard

Don't mind the grocery store.........

4 posted on 04/26/2008 8:31:16 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: BenLurkin
Thanks for posting this. It was featured in our local news.

While in Alaska (after the BIG one- '64) our aftershocks were all over 6.0 for about a year. That Reno's are 'building' is strange. Makes me wonder if a new 'peak' isn't about to develope from some magma below.

We've seen a large snowpak on the west slopes. Wonder if all this weight isn't sqeezing out a 'burp' on the Nevada side?

5 posted on 04/26/2008 8:36:46 PM PDT by budwiesest (Coming to a town near you, unless of course, you put a stop to it.)
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To: Cold Heart; budwiesest
Hang in there FRiends, and stay away from unreinforced masonry structures.
6 posted on 04/26/2008 8:40:56 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Those doorway thresholds can get mighty crowded when the ground starts shakin. ;^)


7 posted on 04/26/2008 8:43:22 PM PDT by budwiesest (Coming to a town near you, unless of course, you put a stop to it.)
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To: BenLurkin
She was ugly last time she was AG. It gets worse? RUN AWAY!

Wrong Reno... sigh.....

/johnny/

8 posted on 04/26/2008 8:44:16 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
You have a better chance of surviving a 6.5 in Reno than the wrath of A Reno.


9 posted on 04/26/2008 8:48:41 PM PDT by OCC
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To: OCC

That photo of Janet Reno! You scared me. My folks live in Reno. I’m worried about them.


10 posted on 04/26/2008 8:51:06 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: budwiesest
Those doorway thresholds can get mighty crowded when the ground starts shakin. ;^)

Steel-toed boots help.

Last time I was in an earthquake was way back in the '80s. Small quake. 4.3 or something. I was on a road trip, charging everything back to the company, and I had spent a night out with the guys, and by 10AM, I felt bad.

I excused myself, and went and got right with God and the cool bathroom floor. After a while... I cleaned right up and walked out to talk to the VP about our business deal.

An assistant hissed at me "Did you feel that?".

I assumed they were talking about the heaving and blowing and trumpeting from the nearby bathroom.....

A friend from Poland that I had worked with earlier figured it out before I did. She intercepted me and kept me from making (anymore) of a fool out of myself.

I never felt the ground move. It was just gas and rented beer, as far as I was concerned.

/johnny/

11 posted on 04/26/2008 8:52:31 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: BenLurkin; All

There are two major types of quakes .. shakers and rollers.

From the reports, I believe these 4 pt shakes must be the shaker-type. A 4 pt rolling quake does very little damage.

I’ve been through 4.9 rolling quakes here in San Diego - and they did very little damage.


12 posted on 04/26/2008 8:52:47 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Yon: "The U.S. military is the most respected institution in Iraq.")
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To: OCC
MY EYES!!!!!

Forgive me....

No more pictures.

/johnny/

13 posted on 04/26/2008 8:55:30 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: budwiesest
Those doorway thresholds can get mighty crowded when the ground starts shakin. ;^)

Trouble is that if the quake is strong enough you need to get in a doorway, it's also strong enough you probably can't move to get there.

14 posted on 04/26/2008 8:56:12 PM PDT by umgud
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To: budwiesest

My concern is a new/old volcano vs a 6.0 earthquake. That shaking is all going on virtually on top of a hot springs. Sounds almost like magma moving doesn’t it?


15 posted on 04/26/2008 8:56:16 PM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Sorry. Hope your folks are ok.


16 posted on 04/26/2008 9:00:00 PM PDT by OCC
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To: umgud
That would be one point to the team pointing out "getting under the doorway is important" and 2 points to the team "passing out under the doorway is a good plan" and 8 points to team that points out that "IT'S A VOLCANO".

Prayers for all in that area.

/johnny/

17 posted on 04/26/2008 9:03:28 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: Saundra Duffy
Prayers lifted for your family.

/johnny/

18 posted on 04/26/2008 9:04:49 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: Saundra Duffy

My husband’s family lived there also. I am concerned.


19 posted on 04/26/2008 9:05:24 PM PDT by sibb1213
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To: Duchess47
"My concern is a new/old volcano vs a 6.0 earthquake. That shaking is all going on virtually on top of a hot springs. Sounds almost like magma moving doesn’t it?"

Kaboom! I not sweating it yet.

20 posted on 04/26/2008 9:10:22 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: BenLurkin

Eh, well just when I think “hey, I’d love to move back to Northern NV someday...”


21 posted on 04/26/2008 9:13:42 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (Let's Get Cup Crazy! Let's Go Sharks!)
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To: GOP_Raider
"Eh, well just when I think “hey, I’d love to move back to Northern NV someday...”

No sweat. We are still safe up here.

22 posted on 04/26/2008 9:17:40 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: umgud
Trouble is that if the quake is strong enough

My friend (who went through the big Alaska quake in '64) told me he was watching TV after school while sitting on the couch. He said the TV launched across the room, almost hitting him.

Stories were told of the ground opening up and swallowing cars and people. Pictures of downtown Anchorage showed some deep holes in the main street and lots of collapsed building facings.

What I don't understand is how a 4.7 could knock stuff off shelves- unless it's close to the surface or something.

23 posted on 04/26/2008 9:19:51 PM PDT by budwiesest (Coming to a town near you, unless of course, you put a stop to it.)
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To: budwiesest

It’s easy - first you feel the quake, then you go to the store and empty the shelves :)


24 posted on 04/26/2008 9:23:33 PM PDT by Technocrat (McCain-Romney 2008. Crap.)
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To: Duchess47
That shaking is all going on virtually on top of a hot springs.

Are there hot springs west of Reno? I've been to Boomtown a few times (hit a dollar machine once- triple,triple, red seven).

25 posted on 04/26/2008 9:23:53 PM PDT by budwiesest (Coming to a town near you, unless of course, you put a stop to it.)
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To: Technocrat
then you go to the store and empty the shelves :)

LOL! I'm gonna get me some rice. (If it hasn't been biofueled already)

26 posted on 04/26/2008 9:31:51 PM PDT by budwiesest (Coming to a town near you, unless of course, you put a stop to it.)
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To: budwiesest

Lawton’s Hot Springs is right outside Mogul, N39.5, W-119.9. I found out tonight that there are 28 hot springs in and around Reno - I didn’t know that.


27 posted on 04/26/2008 9:35:11 PM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: blackbart.223

I love your tagline :)


28 posted on 04/26/2008 9:37:29 PM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: CyberAnt
There are two major types of quakes .. shakers and rollers.

Interesting. I guess I've only experienced the 'rollers'. Parkfield and Mammoth Lakes (both CA) are pretty active areas. I played a bluegrass festival in Parkfield one year. It's their local claim to fame. They have some very sophisticated equipment stationed to see if they can 'predict' a quake. I didn't feel a thing but my B string kept coming out of tune.

29 posted on 04/26/2008 9:40:14 PM PDT by budwiesest (Coming to a town near you, unless of course, you put a stop to it.)
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To: Duchess47

Thanks.


30 posted on 04/26/2008 9:40:24 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: BenLurkin
The Reno City Council issues a statement.

31 posted on 04/26/2008 9:41:54 PM PDT by uglybiker (I do not suffer from mental illness. I quite enjoy it, actually.)
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To: Duchess47
I didn’t know that.

Wow, thanks for the information. I recall a tv show about a lake in the Lassen area where the water was about 90-100'F. Some guy poked a well and instead of drinking water, he found he could heat his home all winter at no cost.

32 posted on 04/26/2008 9:49:55 PM PDT by budwiesest (Coming to a town near you, unless of course, you put a stop to it.)
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To: OCC; JRandomFreeper
Reno quakes


33 posted on 04/26/2008 9:53:35 PM PDT by uglybiker (I do not suffer from mental illness. I quite enjoy it, actually.)
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To: BenLurkin
It's not been a big deal so far. The 4.9 we had last night frightened a lot of people who are unused to moderate quakes, but it wasn't even worth mentioning to a long time Californian who has been through 7.1 quakes.

These recent quakes are shallow, and jolt more. The one last night felt like a truck crashed into the house. We've been getting little rollers from time to time over the last 48 hours.

34 posted on 04/26/2008 9:57:44 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: budwiesest

Almost all of the quakes are within 2-3 miles below the surface.


35 posted on 04/26/2008 9:59:27 PM PDT by uglybiker (I do not suffer from mental illness. I quite enjoy it, actually.)
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To: budwiesest

Now that’s something I could use - a hot water well. With the price of propane, think of all the money I’d save.

My horses would probably not like it alot for drinking but it would sure make baths a lot more comfortable.


36 posted on 04/26/2008 10:02:57 PM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: uglybiker
Almost all of the quakes are within 2-3 miles below the surface.

Sounds shallow- explains why they feel more violent than what I've experienced. Long wave vs. short (spiking) wave.

I've heard people describe the ground as moving in swells, like the ocean- with buildings swaying as it past beneath them. These must be the rolling variety (that I've felt).

37 posted on 04/26/2008 10:10:28 PM PDT by budwiesest (Coming to a town near you, unless of course, you put a stop to it.)
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To: Duchess47
would sure make baths a lot more comfortable.

If you could get past the sulphur smell ;^)

Are you near Mogul? I used to see a small herd of Texas Longhorn cattle just off the north side of the freeway (80) heading toward Verdi. The last time through, they weren't there.

38 posted on 04/26/2008 10:22:13 PM PDT by budwiesest (Coming to a town near you, unless of course, you put a stop to it.)
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To: blackbart.223

We live out in Dayton (just outside Carson City) and we haven’t felt a thing. However, lots of our friends out here felt the one last night - so maybe we just immune being out of CA only 3 years.


39 posted on 04/26/2008 10:30:19 PM PDT by ninergold3 (Don't like my attitude? Then get one of your own!)
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To: ninergold3
"We live out in Dayton (just outside Carson City) and we haven’t felt a thing."

I haven't either. But what the hell. We may have beach front property and Nancy Pelosi will sleep with the fishes.

40 posted on 04/26/2008 11:11:56 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Duchess47

<...28 hot springs in and around Reno...>

Oh, no! That means hot magma underground. The geology around the eastern slope of the Sierras is very different than along the California coastline.

For example, the San Andreas fault breaks with horizontal movement; the west side of the fault is moving towards the north while the east side is moving south.

The faults east of the Sierras, such as in Nevada’s basin, are fractured blocks slipping past one another vertically - that means being squeezed up or dropping down. If magma is moving up under Reno - look out!


41 posted on 04/26/2008 11:28:52 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: budwiesest

I have experienced both .. and they’re really quite different. A roller can be difficult if it’s in the 5.5 to 6.0 range.

I remember one in San Jose - at a Marriott Hotel where I was attending a conference. We all huddled in the doorway of the room - looking out into the hallway. The huge hanging chandaliers were swinging so far they almost touched the ceiling in both directions. But .. even though it was over 6.0, there was very little damage.

However, I was in a 5.4 shaker in Sunnyvale, and the building almost came apart. Fortunately, it was a single story building and we were able to get everyone outside into the parking lot.


42 posted on 04/26/2008 11:57:58 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Yon: "The U.S. military is the most respected institution in Iraq.")
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To: milford421

Ping


43 posted on 04/26/2008 11:58:16 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: The KG9 Kid
. . . a long time Californian who has been through 7.1 quakes.

How many 7.1 earthquakes have you experienced? What damage did you incur and where were you living during each one? If you don't mind my asking.

44 posted on 04/27/2008 12:35:34 AM PDT by Misterioso
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To: Misterioso
I've been there for every SoCal earthquake since 1970 except for the time I was off in the Marines in the last half of the '80s. I grew up about an hour and a half South-East of Los Angeles on the edge of the Mojave.

The Landers quake ('92) and the Northridge quake ('94) were the big ones I remember, both being over 7.0. The Landers aftershock at 6.5 was even closer to home in Big Bear and was just as scary as the Landers 7.3. I was a kid in the Sylmar quake of '71, but I remember my dad showing me how the driveway was wrecked. It wasn't nearly as big as the Landers or Northridge quake, but it caused a lot of damage in 1971.

In the Landers quake, Southern CA came to a halt. It hit very early on a Sunday morning when most people were asleep and I remember waking up with my bed bouncing like in 'The Exorcist'. That was a big news day with everyone watching the aftermath on TV. I remember standing in my father's kitchen after coming over to see that he was alright at around breakfast time when the Big Bear aftershock hit. He fell one way and I fell the other. One moment we were looking at each other eye to eye, and the next thing I knew I was four feet away from him. That smaller quake was more violent, like a magician doing that old trick of swiping a tablecloth out from underneath a full dinner table setting. I think that was the one that went on for 45 seconds and raised and lowered in intensity. It felt like three quakes one after the other. I recall we had a pretty good quake some months before Landers, and a whole bunch of 5.0 magnitude quakes for months and years later.

The Imperial Valley quake of 1979 half emptied our backyard swimming pool. The quake hit as I was getting ready to go swimming, and I saw a giant pseudopod of water lift into the air out of the pool like a giant teardrop and pop like a balloon, then the water rushed the other way and spilled across our backyard patio taking the lawn furniture with it. I went out to the front of the house, and water from all the backyard swimming pools on our street was rushing downhill.

Anything above a 6.0 gets my attention.

45 posted on 04/27/2008 2:29:28 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: uglybiker

LMAO!


46 posted on 04/27/2008 3:20:16 AM PDT by whatisthetruth
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To: SatinDoll

The earthquakes near Reno have been strike-slip earthquakes.

None of these quakes have anything to do with magma movement. THat would be reasonably obvious from the sesimic records.


47 posted on 04/27/2008 4:15:06 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: The KG9 Kid

I was trying to deflate your hyperbole, a little. Landers was indeed 7.1—but people need to know that, because of the remote location, damage was not major. Northridge was not 7.1 (big) but 6.7 (rather lighter in impact) and caused much more damage due to its location in the San Fernando Valley. My first experience was the 1952 Tehachapi earthquake which scared the hell out of me, living in San Fernando. It was 7.5 but about 90 miles away. I live in Santa Monica and Northridge threw us around pretty good but no real damage except that almost everything went from one side of the apartment to the other. I’m glad I don’t live in Reno.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northridge_earthquake
http://www.data.scec.org/chrono_index/kerncoun.html


48 posted on 04/27/2008 4:21:00 AM PDT by Misterioso
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To: budwiesest

No, thank goodness. I’m located east of Carson City so probably 40-50 miles SE of the quakes. I remember that herd though - I love seeing the long horns every now and then.


49 posted on 04/27/2008 7:34:35 AM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: SatinDoll

A poster on another board said that Lawton’s Hot Springs is connected with Steamboat Hot Springs just south of Reno and that Steamboat Springs is a volcanic area which previously had geysers. He didn’t give a link for the information though. I’m learning a lot about our geology that I wasn’t aware of. Not sure I really wanted to know this either :)


50 posted on 04/27/2008 7:38:07 AM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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