Something like this stretching from Brownsville to San Diego would be nice.
Posted on 04/27/2008 10:49:00 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch
BROWNSVILLE - Members of Congress will be here Monday to talk about the planned security fence along the U.S. border with Mexico.
The hearing comes several weeks after U.S Department of Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff waived more than 30 federal laws - most dealing with preservation of natural, cultural and historic resources - to expedite the fence's construction.
"The decision to invoke a waiver for fence construction will devastate the region and is an insult to those of us who live near the border," wrote Democratic Rep. Raul Grijalva of Arizona, one of the representatives expected to attend the hearing. "This administration believes that it is above the laws that protect the environment, health and human safety of border communities."
The hearing will address Grijalva's proposed measure, House Resolution 2593, which would repeal the waiver authority granted to Chertoff under the REAL ID Act. The bill, dubbed the Borderlands Conservation and Security Act of 2007, has been under review since June by the House Committee on Homeland Security, as well as the Agriculture and Natural Resources committees.
Monday's event won't be just a soapbox for opponents of the fence. Expected participant Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., has long been one of the border barrier's biggest advocates and commended Chertoff's early April decision to expedite fence construction by waiving a number of environmental protection laws.
"The decision to remove these roadblocks is the absolute right decision," Hunter wrote in a news release.
In addition to the members of Congress, a number of witnesses - including U.S. Border Patrol agents, mayors, and UTB/TSC administrators - are slated to speak at the hearing. Cameron County residents who own land along the Rio Grande also are expected to be in attendance.
Following the hearing, state Rep. Eddie Lucio III, D-Brownsville, will host a bus tour of areas that would be directly affected by the border fence.
"We're aiming to inform whoever wants to know what is at stake," said Betty Perez, one of the event's organizers.
The tour will begin at UTB/TSC and continue to the Sabal Palm Audubon Center, the small community of El Calaboz and, finally, Hope Park in downtown Brownsville - all places that would be affected by the fence's construction.
What: Congressional field hearing addressing "Walls and Waivers: Expedited Construction of the Southern Border Wall and the Collateral Impacts on Communities and the Environment." Among the members of Congress expected to be in attendance are U.S. Reps. Raul Grijalva, D-Ariz., Solomon Ortiz, D-Texas, Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., Janet Napolitano, D-Calif., and Madeleine Bordallo, D-Guam.
When: 10 a.m. Monday
Where: Science, Engineering and Technology Building lecture hall (SET-B) on the University of Texas-Brownsville/Texas Southmost College campus, 80 Fort Brown St., Brownsville
More info: Contact Betty Perez at (956) 580-8915.
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This is a joke isn't it, the jerkoff may have waved 30 laws but he completely waved ever building 420 miles of the so called fence. actually he has only built a few miles of three layer fence. The rest is plan old BS like congress is getting ready to pump out.
Just a dog and pony show to satisfy the unwashed masses.
Of which there are sure to be many in attendance...
I guess you could say this gang is sitting on the fence instead of building it.
Link to your information, please.
Well, if the damn Mexicans did not believe THEY are above the laws that protect the United States of America from criminal illegal border violators we would not need to build a border barrier… pinhead.
Short term memory problem’s. It is already posted here.
Of the 370 miles of fence, Texas is to have 153, Arizona 129, California 76, and New Mexico 12. Most of the vehicle barriers will be in Arizona and New Mexico.
This story goes back to 2007, it has been reduced more since then and the invisible fence is a complete failure.
http://cbs5.com/national/mexico.border.immigration.2.289201.html
It only took 9 months to complete a 24 inch crude pipeline from Longview, Texas to Linden, New Jersey and a 20 inch refined products pipeline from Beaumont, Texas to Linden, New Jersey. (1942-1943)
So the gov is pi$$ing down our back and telling us it's raining when it comes to building the fence and the wall along our southern border.
True, jerkoff is paying to add to foot of dirt, really building a private development for someone, to a levy and call it a fence. The man is a real piece of scum.
Something like this stretching from Brownsville to San Diego would be nice.
We actually agree with Governor Perry. We are not proposing to put fence along the entire 1,200 to 1,300 miles of the border of Texas. We agree that there are some places where fencing makes sense, about 10 percent of the border in the metropolitan areas.
That amounts to no fence in Texas.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,346389,00.html
It makes me sick....IOW, the Army Corps of Engineers can build, levees, locks, dams, dredge harbors and rivers, but for some unexplained reason, they haven’t a single clue as how to build a wall/fence???? WTF???
It was a simple question, and I wouldn't have asked it if I had seen it. Duh. I want to know where you're coming up with your numbers. Are you interested in having the wall built, or not? Or would you rather make up numbers and give them to people who already agree with you on FR threads?
Open request to the forum:
I am looking for hard and verifiable numbers that I can give to actual skeptics, not some nonsense about pipelines.
Why do you call the building of 2 1200 miles pipelines nonsense? Seems to me that if something of that scale could be done in the 1940’s in 9 months then a fence now should be a piece of cake. Methinks you have an agenda.
Ping!
But hey, I just asked for some numbers. That's my agenda. Deal with it.
Don't give me that government employee BS, you know the numbers. Do you know how to use google.
And if you cannot understand the poster was just pointing out the general and over whelming incompetence of cerhoff, when he was posting about the pipe line. Do you know how long it took to build the Alaskan HWY?
Homeland security is a joke and the incompetent fool running it an even worse one.
The link to the FR post in # 10 shows picture of the so called fence.
Your agenda is showing since you also posted your hair brain nonsense there as well.
Your name says it all..you deal with looking in the mirror and seeing a jerk
Ah, yes. Posts 11 and 15, addressed to yourself, which by use of ESP I must know regard my specific question. Moron.
No, but I know I asked a simple question, and no one can answer it. From your contribution to this thread, my guess is that you are a woman.
It's becoming pretty darn clear to me that you don't know what the hell you are talking about with regard to the border fence, and that you appear to go into a Google frenzy anyone asks you a question. There is some irony there: exposed for an idiot by someone just looking for the answer to a simple question.
What has that got to do with this thread? You guess wrong and what have I posted that was gender specific? Forget I asked, you fall into the “Never argue with a fool, they will lower you to their level and then beat you with experience” Your arguments sound a lot like Pee-Wee Herman’s “I know you are but what am I”
That's because the gov doesn't want it known to the public the dept of their colluded deceit.
Most numbers you will find will be classified as 'new', when actually a lot of the mile is just replacement fencing. There is very little fencing going up in the areas where the coyotes work their crap in the flat open desert of Arizona and New Mexico.
One of the big problems is on a US Indian reservation in Arizona....no fencing at at and locals are being paid to look the other way.
The Torhono O'odham Indian Reservation to be specific.
Here's some info that may be correct:
From an April 03, 2008 article:
An August 2003 article....the traffic has slowed some, but not that much......the gov is keeping a lid on this, believe me.
I agree. What we should be doing is comparing the numbers the government releases with the numbers from other sources (the Minutemen, for example). It would be nice to get an idea of the reality on the ground, instead of complaining that the person asking (me) has an “agenda.” It gets tiresome (for a male).
Believe me, if I can get a 1 year old photo of my house from space and see the grill on my back deck, it is easy to see where new fencing has been constructed.
The government is lying about the progress of the fence. As well they are forcing the TTX Corridor down our throats, not deporting illegals, allowing large banks etc. to skim hundreds of billions from the public from the sub-prime mess, allowing unregulated speculation in food and energy markets, federal subsidies for ethanol BS, etc., as that there is a government within our government that is punishing the American people now as to divert our attention from them while forcing the North American Union upon us.
There is no elected official that will tell WTF is really going on on the inside with the government refusing to secure our borders and letting anyone just simply walk or drive in unchecked.
W can issue 2 Executive Orders to pay a fair price to private property owners and the other to turn the Corps of Engineers loose to build the fence. However, as it always goes....too many people want in on the orgy to make a buck doing nothing.
I think that for all of our back and forth on this issue, we all know what is coming in the next election. The current officials are lame duck and don’t don’t want to do this so they drag their collective feet and make lame excuses. We build miles of Interstate Hwys with fence and yet this project is hamstrung by a few. The minority with lawyers can stop projects in our country and it shows a major problem in this country for most public/social projects. Look at new refineries, nuclear reactors, drilling in Anwar & other areas, logging, immigration, etc. All areas where a majority is held up by a minority that never stops.
A southern border fence is not a big deal considering what the US taxpayer is having to pay for....the goobermint is as lame as it gets on this issue.
I do not understand why elected officials and department heads do nothing after 80% of this country told them we do not want amnesty nor illegal aliens in this country.
What will have to happen to get the will of the people enforced, not to mention the goobermint's own laws???
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