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Posted on 04/27/2008 12:17:26 PM PDT by rellimpank
CHICAGO—Deputy Police Chief Eugene Williams had a tough week. Wednesday morning, a two-storey house in his jurisdiction on the South Side. Five people, shot dead. The following afternoon, two more shootings. Another that night, non-fatal, shot in the leg and back. And all of this following a hail of gunfire that had peppered the city's toughest neighbourhoods just a few days before: In less than a week, more than 40 shootings, at least a dozen of them fatal.
Williams, an affable 28-year veteran of the force, sat in his office in the blue-paneled bunker of the CPD's District 5 headquarters in South Chicago. As he managed his constantly pinging email and two BlackBerrys vibrating at regular intervals on his desk, he suggested a worrying paradox.
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“...We’ve been averaging 10,000 weapons recovered every year for the last 10 or 12 or 14 years. And that’s with a ban.”
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And what does that tell you, STUPID?? Criminals do NOT OBEY LAWS. They can get guns any time, any place they want for a price. That will NEVER change. The illegal gun trade, especially coming across our OPEN BORDERS (thanks again Washington, DC), is booming.
An armed society, is a polite society. Taking guns away from law-abiding citizens INCREASES CRIME. Many areas of America HAVE PROVED IT along with countries like Australia.
Give it up. Get a life. And start prosecuting and hanging criminals who use guns in crimes, to the FULL EXTENT of the law. Ever think of that??
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IM the government should expect basically the same “stellar” results from a “War on Guns” as it is getting from the “War on some Drugs”
That’s IMO =IM
“Give it up. Get a life. And start prosecuting and hanging criminals who use guns in crimes, to the FULL EXTENT of the law. Ever think of that??”
Oh, but that would be a ‘racist’ response when we need to get at the ‘root causes of violence’ without penalizing the ‘victims’ of our ‘outrageously unfair distribution of wealth’.
“They can get guns any time, any place they want for a price.”
Be careful with that line of argument since their response will be “but if we just ban private ownership of guns, then overtime, the supply of guns will dry up and criminals will no longer have guns either”.
The bottom line is that inner city politicians do not want to take the kind of actions necessary to end gun violence in their cities since that would require them to admit the failure of their welfare state policies and crack down hard on their constituencies. It’s much easier (and safer politically) to shift the blame from themselves to your selfish desire to cling to your firearms and your opposition to higher taxes.
Funny stuff.
Be careful with that line of argument since their response will be “but if we just ban private ownership of guns, then overtime, the supply of guns will dry up and criminals will no longer have guns either”.
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And that kind of stupidity, and spin, is what the LEFT plays to. I live with no false ideas that the left wants to do anything other than disarm the law-abiding American citizen as the bottom line. Using twisted and false assertions about guns and crime, is just a means to that end.
Cute cartoon. I wouldn't necessarily say that all persons who choose not to have guns are stupid.
I would say that anyone who doesn't have a gun is making the same choice as a person who doesn't have a car:
I live far away from criminals. But I have a rifle anyway, mainly for plinking in the backyard and taking out the occasional 4-footed varmint...
Even if you live far from criminals, I think you need a gun. Criminals have cars, even stolen cars, and sometimes they look for a quiet out of the way place to rob, or worse.
I don't disagree -- I was only making the case for individual choice and responsibility.
I live in a rural area where nobody locks their front doors, or their cars, and leaves nice things out on the front porch. In 30 years nobody's house has gotten broken (or walked) into along my road. Town is a different matter, of course, but I choose not to live there.
Nevertheless, my wife and I both have rifles, and my daughter who is 14 and a freshman in high school, is on the rifle team and can out-shoot the seniors.
When she gets into dating, she knows full well that her parents can say with a straight face, "You two kids go out and have fun, get back on time. I'll just be sitting up waiting, cleaning this here gun..." ;-)
“Countries like Hati and Zimbabwe and such have a lot of guns and a lot of violence. I’m beginning to believe that the culture decides whether a country is polite and civil. The presence of guns merely dictates if an impolite culture can shoot each other or if they have to use machetes and blunt objects.”
The difference is the two you mentioned aren’t really societies, just armed mobs.
I made a practice of wearing a sidearm in a (visible) shoulder holster when meeting my daughter's dates at the door -. ;-)
She wound up marrying a great guy who gave her a Beretta .380 for an engagement present -- and who is now one of my best shooting buddies...
How much of the violence is between people with guns, and how much is between people with guns and people without?
Daay-um. That's GOOD preventive medicine.
> She wound up marrying a great guy who gave her a Beretta .380 for an engagement present -- and who is now one of my best shooting buddies...
Fantastic outcome! I've joked with my daughter about such things; but I've also told her in all seriousness that she should never be made to feel like a victim, to always take responsibility for her personal safety, etc. I doubt she'd pack heat on a date... but it would be her choice.
BTW, we gave her the NRA Eddie Eagle videos when she was young, being brought up in a house with firearms, and it seems to have done a good job -- I've never feared for her safety around firearms. And now she's a marksman. What's not to love!
Congrats to you, your daughter, and her husband with the good taste in both guns and ladies!
I disagree. Gun violence is for them the cow that never runs out of milk. No matter what they do, there is always more, there is always reason to further restrict freedoms or exert power, which is what inner city politicians want. The last thing they would want is a self-empowered citizenry with low crime rates, because then there would be no bogeyman for them to wield for more power and control.
It's like the government schools. The worse they are, the more money they get. So, why solve the problems?
bet you that more monrities have spent time in jail than have graduated from High School
Uh-huh...guns cause crime.
Can’t be your lousy schools now can it?
Will...not...think...of...that...song.....
Guns are used 2.5 million times a year in self-defense. Law-abiding citizens use guns to defend themselves against criminals as many as 2.5 million times every year—or about 6,850 times a day. This means that each year, firearms are used more than 80 times more often to protect the lives of honest citizens than to take lives.
the bans on gun possession will never be lifted for the similar reason that drug laws will never be lifted: that would be an admission of failed policies and an inability or apathy to get at the root cause of the problem.
Too late.
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