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Free Republic Update: Page Too Wide/Scroll Bars

Posted on 04/28/2008 3:43:06 AM PDT by John Robinson

I fixed the page-too-wide/horizontal-scrollbar problem many were experiencing. This typically happened when either a long URL or string of characters found its way into the article summary, or when somebody posted a very wide image and you're viewing pings or comments using the brevity setting of "Text" (so that you see the comment text.) I'm embarrassed to admit the fix was a lot simpler than I expected, just a few crucial CSS statements seem to have corrected the issue.

In other news, there haven't been many updates the past few weeks. I'm working on the innards of the beast, rewriting the core database handling routines. About 120 hours into this current project with no end in sight. Heh. The code we're using now is good, but not as flexible as I need it to be for future projects. On the plus side, the new database code will probably find itself open-sourced. Any Perl hackers out there?


TOPICS: Free Republic
KEYWORDS: faq; forumchanges

1 posted on 04/28/2008 3:43:07 AM PDT by John Robinson
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To: John Robinson
IBTZ!!!!
2 posted on 04/28/2008 3:44:51 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, we’re still retarded.)
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To: John Robinson
Please consider adding another field as a sub title field, possibly with the same number of characters as the "Title of Thread" field.

Then require that the title be quoted verbatim as in the source article but allow the poster to use the second field to either quote the source's sub title or to insert the poster's own sub title.

3 posted on 04/28/2008 3:56:19 AM PDT by Clive
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To: ovrtaxt

M E 2


4 posted on 04/28/2008 3:57:15 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: John Robinson

I am truly grateful for the new fixes. I could almost think you were thinking of my daily posting. Too often in the flurry of posting, I would overlook a ping. It had been a chore to keep track of the many pings and posts each morning and now, suddenly, it is all neat and tidy with the color coding! Just thanks!

8mm


5 posted on 04/28/2008 4:02:30 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: John Robinson

This is one fix I really appreciate. Thanks!


6 posted on 04/28/2008 4:07:11 AM PDT by Clara Lou (~sigh~ '08)
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To: Clive

Great Idea Clive!


7 posted on 04/28/2008 4:09:33 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: John Robinson

John:

How do I adjust it so that I can see the first paragraph in the threads in articles again?


8 posted on 04/28/2008 4:12:58 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only Hillary or Obama can!)
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To: John Robinson

Good fix...goood fix.


9 posted on 04/28/2008 4:13:25 AM PDT by Rudder (Klinton-Kool-Aid FReepers prefer spectacle over victory.)
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To: John Robinson

Is there a [MESSAGES] button somewhere, that I am missing. I still like to see which thread is getting the most posting by seeing it repeated on the page.

Yeah, I’m a dinosaur...


10 posted on 04/28/2008 4:18:45 AM PDT by gridlock (Proud McCain Supporter since February 8, 2008.)
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To: John Robinson

Please return the ‘top of the page’ feature.

Thanks for this site and all that you do.


11 posted on 04/28/2008 4:19:21 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: John Robinson
I fixed the page-too-wide/horizontal-scrollbar problem many were experiencing.

Thanks, I thought your name was Jim, but since you sign it as John, I will say, Thanks JOHN.

12 posted on 04/28/2008 4:23:12 AM PDT by deuteronlmy232 (So God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him...)
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To: John Robinson

I often read FR on my Palm Pilot, what a blessing.

Thanks
Lurking’


13 posted on 04/28/2008 4:37:50 AM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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To: John Robinson

Oh, THANKS, John.


14 posted on 04/28/2008 4:55:00 AM PDT by kitkat (Over the Hill(ary))
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To: John Robinson

Here’s another question, John...after reading a thread and hitting Back, the page refreshes and then you must scroll down to find your place. I don’t remember it being like that before...is it my computer or something I can do?


15 posted on 04/28/2008 5:02:27 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: John Robinson

Thank you for the fix. It was an irritation.


16 posted on 04/28/2008 5:07:27 AM PDT by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Under the tabs: {Articles | Activity | Comments| You can choose either Headers or Text.


17 posted on 04/28/2008 5:08:17 AM PDT by jellybean (Write in Fred! - Proud Ann-droid and a Steyn-aholic)
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To: jellybean

Thanks! I must’ve changed it at some point, by mistake.


18 posted on 04/28/2008 5:10:50 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only Hillary or Obama can!)
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To: John Robinson

One confusing thing.... Free Republic on my laptop shows Pacific time on the posts but on my desktop computer shows Central time. My laptop correctly shows Central time in the lower right corner of the screen. Can I change the time zone within the FR site?


19 posted on 04/28/2008 5:22:34 AM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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To: deuteronlmy232; John Robinson
Thanks, I thought your name was Jim, but since you sign it as John, I will say, Thanks JOHN.

Jim is the founder/owner of FR. John is his sadistic son who likes to torture us by playing around with the code and making major changes every few years. :)

Just kidding, John. You do a great job keeping everything up and running smoothly. We don't say thank you enough for the work you do!

20 posted on 04/28/2008 5:23:06 AM PDT by jellybean (Write in Fred! - Proud Ann-droid and a Steyn-aholic)
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To: From The Deer Stand
Free Republic on my laptop shows Pacific time on the posts but on my desktop computer shows Central time. My laptop correctly shows Central time in the lower right corner of the screen. Can I change the time zone within the FR site?

I have the same problem on my laptop, but only when using the Opera browser. Firefox shows the time correctly.

21 posted on 04/28/2008 5:36:56 AM PDT by jellybean (Write in Fred! - Proud Ann-droid and a Steyn-aholic)
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To: Coldwater Creek; John Robinson

Seconds on the “top of the page” link. It’s a little thing, but missed ;’}


22 posted on 04/28/2008 5:50:05 AM PDT by rockrr (Global warming is to science what Islam is to religion)
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To: Coldwater Creek; rockrr
Please return the ‘top of the page’ feature.

Use the "Home" and "End" keys on your keyboard -- top and bottom respectively.

23 posted on 04/28/2008 7:07:49 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: brityank

Thanks!


24 posted on 04/28/2008 7:36:30 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: rockrr

See post 23. I learned something this morning.


25 posted on 04/28/2008 7:39:28 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: John Robinson

Using Safari on a Mac here.

Whatever has been done in the past several hours has actually messed up the display with Safari.

Previously (before the current changes were made), the sidebars were fine.

Now, everything is “scruched up” hard against the right, making the sidebar topics nearly impossible to read.

How do I correct the display?

Hint: there ought to be a page somewhere offering general tips and advice as to how to set up one’s preferences on the site for usage. It may indeed be there, but I haven’t found it.

- John


26 posted on 04/28/2008 7:47:07 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: John Robinson
Wow John, thanks for bringing back the 'green' on the Ping (My Comments) Page. Now I can see again what I need to address - or ignore.

And the current shade, doesn't blind you (though I had no prob with the 1st 'brighter' shade).

27 posted on 04/28/2008 9:36:34 AM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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To: John Robinson

I just want to say thanks.


28 posted on 04/28/2008 9:48:29 AM PDT by SmithL (Reject Obama's Half-Vast Wright-Wing Conspiracy)
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To: SmithL; John Robinson

I just want to say thanks.


Ditto from Acapulco! :-)


29 posted on 04/28/2008 10:33:18 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... Cabo or Bust!)
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To: John Robinson

Why do you keep messing with it? It worked fine for years.

I’m using Safari, and now I can’t read the sidebar because it’s so scrunched up.

In all honesty, I don’t see any improvement, only new problems.


30 posted on 04/28/2008 11:00:45 AM PDT by Deo volente
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To: John Robinson

Thank you for that fix, it was irritating.

Is there any way to get the thread to show a bit of the posted article, as it used to, instead of the latest comment for that thread?

Thanks


31 posted on 04/28/2008 11:07:17 AM PDT by RJL
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To: John Robinson
Still think you, JimR and the MODs should have your own personal sidebar “Topic” for posting these updates. You would be the only ones that could post a thread on it. Also for posting bootcamp, Sandbox and the 3rd. one which slips my mind.

It would be helpful for you as we members would be able to more easily check out what you are doing. Otherwise we just stumble across your threads.

[Mr] T

32 posted on 04/28/2008 5:24:38 PM PDT by trooprally (Never Give Up - Never Give In - Remember Our Troops)
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To: trooprally
posting bootcamp, Sandbox and the 3rd. one which slips my mind.

Updated FR Execerpt and Link Only?

John, I'm having to try two or three times to get the search function to pull up "user" pages...is there a glitch or is it because the pull-down box is so small (at least on my browser) and it slips? I use that feature a lot.

33 posted on 04/28/2008 5:32:24 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Are there any WOMEN FReepers who agree that the 1st. Amendment OKs sexual slavery?))
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To: John Robinson

Can I turn the green off in the pings? Not as much contrast as with black on white and harder for me to read.

I never had any problem telling the difference between pings out and pings in. :-)


34 posted on 04/28/2008 6:12:37 PM PDT by Let's Roll (As usual, following a shooting spree, libs want to take guns away from those who DIDN'T do it.)
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To: John Robinson
I'm still seeing a horizontal scroll bar -- though it covers over 90% of the horizontal width and only slides left or right just a tad.

I'm also seeing the Topics and Post links under Browse by Forum scrunched together and overflowing into the thin separation column between the left and center columns.

I suspect that the cause is the Popular Keyword "wrightwingconspiracy", which exceeds the 12em width of the left column. When I change the left column from "width: 12em;" to "width: 16em", this improves things.

I have no clue whether the proper fix is to ban long keywords, or to make the left column wider.

35 posted on 04/29/2008 2:54:47 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (By their false faith in Man as God, the left would destroy us. They call this faith change.)
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To: ThePythonicCow
As you might have guessed by now, John, I have my left sidebar configured to contain Popular Keywords, Browse by Forum, Opinion Poll, and Tools.
36 posted on 04/29/2008 3:01:41 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (By their false faith in Man as God, the left would destroy us. They call this faith change.)
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To: John Robinson
And moving everything out of my left sidebar into the Top or Right fixes this formatting problem (and surprises me with how big the right sidebar looks -- 30% width.)
37 posted on 04/29/2008 3:06:40 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (By their false faith in Man as God, the left would destroy us. They call this faith change.)
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To: LurkingSince'98

Do you have trouble posting from your palm pilot? I have a palm treo and I recently have been unable to post from it. It tells me:

“The link you followed was invalid. We don’t have enough information to complete your request. “

Then if offers links to post in general interest or news activism. It offers me a link to log in, which I already am.

Any ideas?


38 posted on 04/29/2008 3:19:57 PM PDT by spotbust1 (Procrastinators of the world unite . . . . .tomorrow!!!)
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To: spotbust1

spot

I have been able to post from the Palm, but I rarely do.

I believe that I have had to log on again, though.

Sorry I’m not much help, mostly I use it to just read what’s happening.

Lurking’


39 posted on 04/29/2008 3:25:27 PM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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To: LurkingSince'98

Thanks any way Lurking.

I try to log on when I get the message, but it still doesn’t help. I wonder if it is a device problem or a virus.

Oh well, I’ll keep trying. Thanks anyway.

Spot


40 posted on 04/29/2008 3:35:25 PM PDT by spotbust1 (Procrastinators of the world unite . . . . .tomorrow!!!)
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To: John Robinson
It's getting weirder. On two systems, both running Linux OpenSuSE 10.3 with Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.13, one displays with perfect layout, and one has the left sidebar bleeding over to the center with the horizontal scrollbar. Both are being displayed to the same screen (via a high end KVM switch.)

I'm wondering through the various browser Preferences and Add-Ons, trying to see if I can find a relevant difference.

You should probably put my posts above on your queue of "stuff to worry about some other day ;)".

41 posted on 04/29/2008 3:49:50 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (By their false faith in Man as God, the left would destroy us. They call this faith change.)
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To: Miss Didi
Here’s another question, John...after reading a thread and hitting Back, the page refreshes and then you must scroll down to find your place. I don’t remember it being like that before...is it my computer or something I can do?

An easy way to refresh your page without losing your place is to click the post number at lower left. [This usually works great when using Firefox (don't know about IE) but if it doesn't, just click the number immediately above it.]

42 posted on 04/30/2008 7:48:07 AM PDT by CedarDave (Obama says he loves America. So why does he associate with those whose hatred of it is so obvious?)
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To: CedarDave

Not quite following you, Dave. I meant that when I’m in a thread and then go back to the Forum, the page refreshes on me and I have to scroll all the way down to find where I left off. Does that make sense? Maybe it always did that but I’m just noticing it now. I use IE, by the way.


43 posted on 04/30/2008 8:01:31 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Miss Didi
O.k. I see what you're saying; I tried it and it does refresh to the start of the page. I have no answer for you as I was describing something else.

Might I suggest that you try Firefox. I have six tabs open and am following multiple threads. I just click on the tab and it opens to where I left off. It's a single window on the task bar; the tabs are on top with names of the thread. Also I find it really easy to post images and link url's, use italics, bold text and use other HTML features without trying to remember the HTML codes. Let me know if wish to switch as I can help you get acquainted with it.

44 posted on 04/30/2008 10:47:41 AM PDT by CedarDave (Obama says he loves America. So why does he associate with those who so obviously hate it?)
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To: CedarDave

All I do is download it onto my computer via mewzilla, right? Nothing scary will happen???


45 posted on 04/30/2008 10:57:31 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Miss Didi
All I do is download it onto my computer via mewzilla, right? Nothing scary will happen???

Nothing scary will happen. Go to this link:

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/

After you download and open it up, go to "Help" and read the introduction for internet explorer users. After you play with it a bit, come back on here or by FReepmail and I'll suggest which extensions to add to customize it for using with FR.

46 posted on 04/30/2008 11:09:54 AM PDT by CedarDave (Obama says he loves America. So why does he associate with those who so obviously hate it?)
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To: CedarDave

Thanks...I’ll give it a try! ;)


47 posted on 04/30/2008 11:15:24 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Miss Didi

One more thing, you know that FR uses < > to indicate HTML tags. Some other bulletin board forums use brackets [ ] for their tags. One of the suggested add-on extensions lets you switch back and forth depending which forum you are using. Really useful if you browse on a lot of differing forums.

Also, it has a built in spell checker (underlines a mis-spelled word in red as you type) and you can add a dictionary to search really obscure words. I’d be lost without FF. Even our IT people, when they need to check something out, will use Firefox on my work computer.


48 posted on 04/30/2008 11:33:25 AM PDT by CedarDave (Obama says he loves America. So why does he associate with those who so obviously hate it?)
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