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A Blood Libel on Our Civilization. Can I expell Expelled?
National Review Online ^ | April 28, 2008 | John Derbyshire

Posted on 04/28/2008 12:01:40 PM PDT by Delacon

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To: wendy1946
Yet another idiot who’s going to be unhappy when Stein walks off with film of the year for 08.

What award are you referring to?

61 posted on 04/28/2008 12:46:45 PM PDT by Soliton (McCain couldn't even win a McCain look-alike contest)
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To: MrB
Yep, we all know that Western Civ and Modern Science have NOTHING to do with the Judeo-Christian religion.

What's the "Judeo-Christian religion?" I ask this in all sincerity as a practicing Jew. I've never heard of such a thing.

At least, all the enlightened folk who aren’t stupid, right?

Your rejection of the idea of education makes my point in more ways than I think you know. If you reject scholarship and learning, you are out of step with Western values.

62 posted on 04/28/2008 12:49:20 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Delacon
So what’s going on here with this stupid Expelled movie?

Mr. Derbyshire, typically, if you go back a long way with someone, you ask THEM about why they did something. You don't write an insulting screed about it for publication.

So excuse me, Mr. Derbyshire, if I look on you as being less than honest.

63 posted on 04/28/2008 12:49:28 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: Soliton

I don’t think so. Yoko Ono has no chance to win.

http://expelledthemovie.com/blog/


64 posted on 04/28/2008 12:50:04 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Alter Kaker
Western Civilization is predicated on the belief that objective knowledge can be accumulated by rational, testable means.

Yeah, that's all Western civilisation is based on.

Schmuck.

65 posted on 04/28/2008 12:50:22 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Here they come boys! As thick as grass, and as black as thunder!)
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To: DoughtyOne

That’s quite an over-wrought, shrieking hitpiece on a film he hasn’t seen.

Good grief.


66 posted on 04/28/2008 12:50:56 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Alter Kaker

“Someone who believes that the world was created in seven days six thousand years ago...”

I don’t think that is what Mr. Stein’s movie portrayed at all. I also don’t think you can lump all creationists into such a category.

I am amazed at how intolerant people can be, even on “our side of the aisle.”


67 posted on 04/28/2008 12:52:45 PM PDT by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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To: Soliton
If you are going to see it, you better hurry. It’s tanking at the box office.

True, it was only number 9 on the list this past weekend.

68 posted on 04/28/2008 12:53:40 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

LOL


69 posted on 04/28/2008 12:55:12 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: SeaHawkFan

Unfortunately they will have to pay Yoko. You see the fair use rule doesn’t apply. This is a for-profit movie. The copy right rules are clear. They know it too. That’s why the licenced the other songs. They also stole graphics.


70 posted on 04/28/2008 12:56:00 PM PDT by Soliton (McCain couldn't even win a McCain look-alike contest)
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To: PreciousLiberty
I’ve not seen the movie either, and based on what I know of it have no desire to. It’s sad to see Ben Stein, who’s been very funny at times, involved with such an intellectually bereft effort.

Since you did not see the movie, how do you know it is intellectually bereft?

71 posted on 04/28/2008 12:56:26 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: wendy1946; rickdylan
Yet another idiot who’s going to be unhappy when Stein walks off with film of the year for 08.

More likely a Razzie.

72 posted on 04/28/2008 12:58:22 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
Using “Hollywood Math”, they may break even.

They will not even recover the cost of production and promotion. Not to mention defending against separate copyright suits by EMI and Yoko. This Thursday will likely see the end of the thousand theater distribution.

73 posted on 04/28/2008 12:58:33 PM PDT by js1138
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To: MEGoody
True, it was only number 9 on the list this past weekend.

#10 It has made a little over S5,000,000. It will have no overseas market at all. It won't do a million this week and then it's done. This movie was 90 minutes long and showed in over 1000 theatres. A movie print can cost $10,000.00. Even if they got a bargain at $5,000. That's still $5,000,000 before marketing and other costs.

America has the most creationists in the world. They don't exist in any numbers in Europe or Asia.

74 posted on 04/28/2008 1:04:06 PM PDT by Soliton (McCain couldn't even win a McCain look-alike contest)
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To: MEGoody
True, it was only number 9 on the list this past weekend.

#10 It has made a little over S5,000,000. It will have no overseas market at all. It won't do a million this week and then it's done. This movie was 90 minutes long and showed in over 1000 theatres. A movie print can cost $10,000.00. Even if they got a bargain at $5,000. That's still $5,000,000 before marketing and other costs.

America has the most creationists in the world. They don't exist in any numbers in Europe or Asia.

75 posted on 04/28/2008 1:04:21 PM PDT by Soliton (McCain couldn't even win a McCain look-alike contest)
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To: Delacon
Silly article--"chattering on his cell phone" indeed. I'm reserving judgment until I see the movie, but I hope the movie is about academic arrogance rather than creationism .

It is a mistake to deify scientists. They are absolutely as vulnerable to fallibility as the rest of us. We were told by an Eminence that we would be experiencing multiple Katrina's because of global warming.

1) They are vulnerable to greed and fraud, and lust for acclaim and power--look at Al Gore's minions of corrupt PhDs. "grant grubbing", etc.

2) They are hugely vulnerable to professional vanity, which is what I suspect this movie is really about. They keep forgetting that they're being paid to focus on the provable and accountable.

3) Evo is a "belief system" and should simply be treated as a reasonable theory. It is presently taught as dogma.

76 posted on 04/28/2008 1:07:07 PM PDT by Mamzelle (Time for Conservatives to go Free Agent)
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To: Alter Kaker

Is it simply arrogance on your, and most others’, parts that you assume that those questioning the methodology and the evidence of evolution are

“rejecting scholarship and learning”?

Seriously, this ASSumption is ridiculous, and tends to show how close minded YOU are.

On the other note, Western Civ AND the foundations of modern science were only made possible by the assumptions of the Judeo-Christian, Abrahamic God of the old and new testament.


77 posted on 04/28/2008 1:08:05 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: San Jacinto

As much as we republicans like to think of ourselves as small government types, never forget that NR is a pro-statist magazine. Sure, it leans conservative on many issues but it’s always rooting for the government.

The crowning achievement of Western Civ isn’t our scientific theories, it’s our concept of individual inalienable rights.

As for science being free of God, well, Stalin and Hitler had scientists working for them. Science, in the end, is an abstraction that demands proof or the questions continue. Derby’s full of assertions. He demands you “believe” and not question.

Science doesn’t require belief because science should provide the empirical belief. As for religion, who can empirically prove they love anything?

Derby, as all atheists, is a damaged man.

Actually, I thought the article was a spoof.

Yours truly,
The Woim


78 posted on 04/28/2008 1:09:02 PM PDT by The Woim (Agitating for social change also means fighting to abolish the Dept of Education)
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To: Soliton
America has the most creationists in the world. They don't exist in any numbers in Europe or Asia.

Um, okay. Not sure what that has to do with anything.

I've discussed the ID controversy we have in the U.S. with my niece who lived in Paris for several years and now lives in London. She said there just isn't the controvery in Europe. The scientific community in Europe is apparently much more tolerant of opposing ideas.

79 posted on 04/28/2008 1:09:30 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: Soliton
It’s tanking at the box office.

Next time, check your facts before posting.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/genres/chart/?id=documentary.htm

After only 2 weeks, it's already the 15th-highest grossing documentary of all time. It's pulled in nearly $3 million in each of it's first 2 weekends, with almost no drop-off, which compares favorably with all the top-grossing documentaries. In fact, the opening weekend was the 3rd highest grossing documentary of all time.

And just to add a little pleasant schadenfreude to the mix, the highly-touted cultural-decadence-promoting "Shine a Light," the only other currently-screening documentary, is $1.2 million behind "Expelled" despite being in release for twice as many weeks.

80 posted on 04/28/2008 1:10:20 PM PDT by Maximilian
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