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ID ruling stuns Dems, Ind. setback for Obama
The Hill ^ | Apr 28 | Alexander Bolton

Posted on 04/28/2008 6:49:27 PM PDT by Aristotelian

The Supreme Court ruled 6-3 Monday to uphold a strict Indiana law requiring voters to present photo identification at the polls, handing Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) a serious setback days before a pivotal primary battle.

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Obama, however, will face a significant disadvantage in Indiana because the high court failed to strike down a law that affects two major pillars of support: black voters and young voters.

Indiana requires that voters present state or federal government-issued photo identification on Election Day.

But a recent study conducted by the Washington Institute for the Study of Ethnicity and Race found that 18 percent of Indiana’s black registered voters do not have a valid photo ID card. The group’s analysis also found that 20 percent of registered voters 18 to 34 years old do not have valid IDs.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: in2008; obama; photoid; votefraud; voterfraud; voterid
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If the data are correct, the ruling could actually help Hillary in the upcoming primary. Imagine. Bush's SCOTUS picks helping Hillary's prez bid.
1 posted on 04/28/2008 6:49:27 PM PDT by Aristotelian
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To: Aristotelian

hmmm. photoshop probably never looked so good to them.


2 posted on 04/28/2008 6:51:11 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand ("resort not to force until every just law be defied")
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To: Aristotelian
Yes, Dems are stunned,,,STUNNED I tell ya,,,,

that ID proof will be required to vote!!!! What a revolting development for democrats!!!

Why aren't Republicans upset about this???..lol

3 posted on 04/28/2008 6:51:17 PM PDT by stockstrader (Obama's "I HAVE AN EXCUSE" speech on race most certainly was "Eloquent, but Outrageous".)
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To: Aristotelian

“Bush’s SCOTUS picks helping Hillary’s prez bid.”

And I had such High Hopes. :(


4 posted on 04/28/2008 6:51:49 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Aristotelian

Portrait of a dhimmicrat: ID needed for gun purchase, no ID for voting. Actually, I don’t mind an ID for gun purchase, but demand it for voting. Some of our unauthorized voting friends have much more capability for widespread damage than an unauthorized gun purchaser. Really.


5 posted on 04/28/2008 6:52:29 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Aristotelian
Why is it a setback for Obama?

= chuckle =

6 posted on 04/28/2008 6:54:03 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Steely's First Law of the Main Stream Media: if it doesn't advance the agenda, it's not news.)
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To: Aristotelian

“The group’s analysis also found that 20 percent of registered voters 18 to 34 years old do not have valid IDs.”

TRANSLATION:

“20 percent of registered voters 18 to 34 years old ARE FRAUDS.” (Dead, non-existant, here illegally, etc...)


7 posted on 04/28/2008 6:54:45 PM PDT by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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To: Aristotelian
I guess its just too hard to apply for the proper government issued photo ID. 99% of Indiana residents have one. I don't get why that upsets the Democrats so much after all their hollering about how the 2000 election was stolen.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

8 posted on 04/28/2008 6:55:56 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Aristotelian
The group’s analysis also found that 20 percent of registered voters 18 to 34 years old do not have valid IDs.

Does ANYONE believe that young folks 18 - 34 don't have an ID? No ID means no cars, no clubs and no booze.

This "survey" is as bogus as they come.

9 posted on 04/28/2008 6:56:39 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Democrats - Stupid is as stupid do)
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To: Aristotelian

One big step against the usual democrat party massive voter fraud!


10 posted on 04/28/2008 6:56:45 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: Aristotelian
The group’s analysis also found that 20 percent of registered voters 18 to 34 years old do not have valid IDs.

Note that they don't have a valid ID. In other words, they are out-of-state students who are trying to vote where they are going to school.

11 posted on 04/28/2008 6:57:59 PM PDT by T. P. Pole
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To: Aristotelian
But a recent study conducted by the Washington Institute for the Study of Ethnicity and Race found that 18 percent of Indiana’s black registered voters do not have a valid photo ID card. The group’s analysis also found that 20 percent of registered voters 18 to 34 years old do not have valid IDs.

Big deal. First of all, only about half of registered voters ever show up to vote anyway.

Secondly, these people only have to gather together a couple documents and spend some time at the DMV in order to get an ID.

12 posted on 04/28/2008 6:58:02 PM PDT by FoxInSocks (B. Hussein Obama: The Paucity of Hope)
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To: Aristotelian

Imagine, the majority opinion was written by Justice Stevens. Could it be that he wants to make a few rational decisions before he retires? The primary is one thing, the national election could have the lowest turn out in history. However, don’t expect legislation in the real blue states.


13 posted on 04/28/2008 6:58:27 PM PDT by Steamburg (Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: VeniVidiVici
Nearly every college student has a photo laminated university ID card and nearly every one of them has a state drivers' license - again with a photo. The notion you can't get a photo ID in this country is bogus.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

14 posted on 04/28/2008 6:59:43 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Aristotelian
“...I filed a brief in the Supreme Court challenging the constitutionality of this law because I believe that it places an unfair burden on Indiana residents who are poor, elderly, disabled, or members of minority groups.”
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How the heck are ID cards prejudiced against minorities??

15 posted on 04/28/2008 7:00:13 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: Aristotelian

Now to get that law passed in the other states that don’t have it yet.


16 posted on 04/28/2008 7:00:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only Hillary or Obama can!)
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To: stockstrader

.."good, now I don't have to worry about getting called for jury duty"

17 posted on 04/28/2008 7:01:07 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: FoxInSocks
If you're ineligible to drive, every state will for a few dollars, issue a person a state ID card with a photo. My late father was given one when he lost his drivers' license.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

18 posted on 04/28/2008 7:01:35 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: FormerACLUmember
One big step against the usual democrat party massive voter fraud!

But, what's to stop a massive "voter ID" fraud? And, who's going to manning the voter ID verification positions? If the democrats can have fraud one way, they'll find another way. They always have.
19 posted on 04/28/2008 7:01:41 PM PDT by adorno
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To: goldstategop

Yeah, ya gotta wonder. Some (ahem) people can make the effort to go downtown for food stamps, welfare and the free clinic. But getting a (free) ID is just toooo difficult.

Also, why do the blacks meekly suffer such insults by the Dems? The Dems are essentially claiming that blacks are just too lazy and too dumb to get a simple ID. That would infuriate me.


20 posted on 04/28/2008 7:02:29 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: Aristotelian

I can hear the shovels in the graveyards all the way to here!


21 posted on 04/28/2008 7:02:37 PM PDT by TaMoDee
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To: VeniVidiVici

If you read carefully, you should see that the numbers presented in this article seem to prove that non-blacks are affected by this law moreso than blacks are. 18% of blacks don’t have ID. But when you add in all other races to the stats, the number becomes 20% don’t have ID.

Well, the only way that’s possible is if blacks have a higher rate of ID cards than everyone else.


22 posted on 04/28/2008 7:03:58 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: Steamburg

Either that, or he supports Hilary?


23 posted on 04/28/2008 7:06:16 PM PDT by proudpapa (May God Bless Our Troops.)
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To: Aristotelian
ID ruling stuns Dems

Well of course, they thought the fix was in.

That and Rats live in Bizzaro world.

24 posted on 04/28/2008 7:06:48 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (John McCain, the Manchurian Candidate.)
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To: adorno
"If the democrats can have fraud one way, they'll find another way."

Yep.....motor voter....like here in WA State...and then, vote by mail!

25 posted on 04/28/2008 7:07:31 PM PDT by goodnesswins (20 is the new 10)
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To: Aristotelian

Rev Wright is helping Hillary in IN


26 posted on 04/28/2008 7:07:36 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Obama voters smoke weed. No ID needed!


27 posted on 04/28/2008 7:07:37 PM PDT by aliquando (A Scout is T, L, H, F, C, K, O, C, T, B, C, and R.)
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To: Aristotelian

It appears as though he’ll have to recruit more voters from outside the country.


28 posted on 04/28/2008 7:07:44 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Aristotelian

How are all the illegal aliens supposed to vote then?


29 posted on 04/28/2008 7:07:56 PM PDT by Wacka
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To: G Larry

EXACTLY! Why is it that only Dems are upset when it comes to proving their identity? It’s because they CHEAT! They double vote, the dead vote, the illegals vote. How dare we Republicans ask for valid id’s. Every illegal, dead, or twice voter nullifies the votes of the well informed, serious voter who has studied the issues. This ruling should be in all 50 states to make this election fair. Where do you find all this excess? In the big cities, with Democrat machines who scratch each other’s backs, and wink at all the graft and voting abuse. It’s time that all votes are cast ONCE and all illegals are denied a vote! If you are a valid citizen, you vote ONCE and only once.


30 posted on 04/28/2008 7:08:29 PM PDT by rtbwood
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To: VeniVidiVici

I agree this survey sounds bogus to me.


31 posted on 04/28/2008 7:08:42 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: VeniVidiVici
No ID means no cars, no clubs and no booze.

Maybe the problem is the IDs have other people's names on them.

32 posted on 04/28/2008 7:10:01 PM PDT by Aristotelian ("Sock it to me!" Judy Carne)
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To: Aristotelian

Now if they’ll simply integrate the Real ID (tm) IDs into a national database that is referenced at the voting booths we can all but kill off voter fraud.

1. Require presentation of your Real ID at the poll.
2. Require visual match between Real ID database picture and the person wishing to vote.
3. Store where and when this person voted and do not allow the Real ID to enter another voting booth.


33 posted on 04/28/2008 7:10:32 PM PDT by TheZMan (What is happening to Texas.)
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To: Doogle
How's this for a photo ID?


34 posted on 04/28/2008 7:12:01 PM PDT by Aristotelian ("Sock it to me!" Judy Carne)
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To: Aristotelian

Looks like the deads and illegals won’t be able to vote.


35 posted on 04/28/2008 7:13:15 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Steamburg

“However, don’t expect legislation in the real blue states.”

Michigan has the ID law now. The Jan primary vote was the first time it was required. Michigan will turn Red in Nov!


36 posted on 04/28/2008 7:13:40 PM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Aristotelian
18 percent of Indiana’s black registered voters do not have a valid photo ID card

So get one! How hard is it to apply for a government ID card/driver's license?
37 posted on 04/28/2008 7:13:53 PM PDT by babble-on
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To: VeniVidiVici
Does ANYONE believe that young folks 18 - 34 don't have an ID? No ID means no cars, no clubs and no booze.

For examplem I would expect any random sample of young folks 18-23 to, on average, own approximately 1.7 photo IDs apiece.

38 posted on 04/28/2008 7:15:19 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: babble-on

You need an ID card to get a library card. Who are the Dems kidding?


39 posted on 04/28/2008 7:15:41 PM PDT by Aristotelian ("Sock it to me!" Judy Carne)
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To: Aristotelian

This law only makes basic common sense. If a person does not have a valid ID, he/she should not be voting — I don’t care if they are qualified in every other respect.


40 posted on 04/28/2008 7:17:03 PM PDT by Ronin (Bushed out!!! Another tragic victim of BDS.)
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To: Aristotelian
Okay, so let's say I live in Indiana. I really want to vote in the upcoming presidential primary, but I don't happen to have an ID card, which the law requires me to have. So I have two choices...

1. Sit back, wait, and hope the Supreme Court strikes down the law, or

2. Go get a freakin' ID card sometime before election day.

Hmmm... decisions, decisions...

41 posted on 04/28/2008 7:19:10 PM PDT by Wade827 (Job 21:3)
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To: Aristotelian
AAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAA

stick it to the dumbos

42 posted on 04/28/2008 7:19:17 PM PDT by shadowcat
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To: Aristotelian

Behind the scenes, the RATS in Indiana will launch an effort to get IDs to RAT voters.


43 posted on 04/28/2008 7:19:29 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Aristotelian

How do people buy alcohol and cigarettes without some form of ID, not to mention drive a vehicle? How do these people cash checks or get their welfare benefits without some form of ID? I hope every state passes a voter ID bill.


44 posted on 04/28/2008 7:20:56 PM PDT by rabidralph (The Clintons managed to make $109M during Pres. Bush's "failed" economy.)
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To: goldstategop

Some states will provide the id, gratis, if a citizen of legal voting age cannot afford one.


45 posted on 04/28/2008 7:22:49 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Aristotelian
I guess this means that the Obama campaign will be scrapping plans to bus-in voters from Illinois.
46 posted on 04/28/2008 7:25:28 PM PDT by Tallguy (Tagline is offline till something better comes along...)
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To: Aristotelian

You know after all the crap and wright and nobama and shrillery, today was a welcome happy day just knowing how the dems are all twisted up in knots over this. as hubby said when I asked him what the ruling was : “dead people can’t vote anymore” LOL!


47 posted on 04/28/2008 7:26:07 PM PDT by visualops (artlife.us . nature photography desktop wallpapers)
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To: stockstrader
35 bucks for an ID.

Well now ... cry me a river.

If you get to be an adult and still have no ID, it seems to me you had/have the attitude, "phuque you, I don't need no ID", and there ain't a man in this nation that takes kindly to any arrogant SOB that says that ... inwardly or outwardly.

How does an adult live without an ID of SOME kind?

NEVER got food stamps?

If you got food stamps and never had to prove who you were, shut the friggin' office down and jail the case worker's ass.

This ID thing just might be the clearing up and out of a whole bunch'o problems.

48 posted on 04/28/2008 7:26:40 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: G Larry
(Dead, non-existant, here illegally, etc...)

You forgot convicted felon.

49 posted on 04/28/2008 7:26:45 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: Aristotelian
But a recent study conducted by the Washington Institute for the Study of Ethnicity and Race found that 18 percent of Indiana’s black registered voters do not have a valid photo ID card. The group’s analysis also found that 20 percent of registered voters 18 to 34 years old do not have valid IDs.

I absolutely do not believe this. If they're working, they have some sort of valid photo ID. If they're not working and are on Social Security or some other form of public aid, they have some form of valid photo ID to cash their checks.
50 posted on 04/28/2008 7:29:50 PM PDT by aruanan
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