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Pizza delivery man shot to death in Portsmouth - (Papa Johns Driver)
wvec.com ^ | 4/28/08 | wvec.com

Posted on 04/29/2008 4:17:32 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32

PORTSMOUTH -- Police are investigating the shooting death of a pizza delivery driver in Portsmouth.

It happened around 11:00 Friday night at the 5600 block of Craneybrook Lane in the Churchland section of the city.

Police have identified the victim as Robert Edward Kiesewetter, a 50 year old resident of Yaupon Street in Portsmouth.

He was delivering pizza for Papa John's.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: ccw; papajohns; pizza; virginia
God forbid this driver was allowed to carry a weapon and defend himself..does anyone know the Papa John policy on allowing drivers defensive weapons?
1 posted on 04/29/2008 4:17:32 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

My son used to delivery for Pizza Hut. I’m so glad he’s not anymore.


2 posted on 04/29/2008 4:20:09 AM PDT by Mercat (I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven;)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

PING


3 posted on 04/29/2008 4:20:11 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Mercat

My nephew has been delivering for 15 years as a second job.

Most times, it’s safe.


4 posted on 04/29/2008 4:22:23 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am very mad at Disney. Give me my James Marsden song!!!!!)
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To: netmilsmom
Most times, it’s safe.

How many time not safe does it take?

5 posted on 04/29/2008 4:28:49 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Yes, thank goodness he wasn’t armed, someone might have gotten hurt.

I’d bet it’s the same suicidal policy of most businesses, if your confronted by someone armed, you have better just die or you’re fired.


6 posted on 04/29/2008 4:34:24 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg ("Shut the hell up, New York Times, you sanctimonious whining jerks!" - Craig Ferguson)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

What kind of pathetic idiot would commit murder for $20 and a pan pizza?


7 posted on 04/29/2008 4:36:21 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Im going to go out on a limb and speculate that the shooter and the victim were not of the same race.


8 posted on 04/29/2008 4:37:46 AM PDT by DogBarkTree (The correct word isn't "immigrant" when what they are doing is "invading".)
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To: mbynack

“What kind of pathetic idiot would commit murder for $20 and a pan pizza?”

The big cities are full of those kind of people.


9 posted on 04/29/2008 4:38:08 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

My wife is a manager for a large retail store chain. She frequently gets calls at 2 a.m. from the alarm company telling her that the alarm is going off at the store. She isn’t allowed to carry any type of weapon - including a pocket knife or pepper spray, on store property. She gets mad at me for insisting on going with her to check on the alarm.


10 posted on 04/29/2008 4:39:18 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: from occupied ga

Generally, it’s about the neighborhood.

Consider how many pizzas are delivered in this country and how many times a delivery person has been attacked. Driving a car on a general basis is more dangerous.

I believe they should be able to carry a gun to protect themselves, but generally delivering is not the most dangerous job on Earth.


11 posted on 04/29/2008 4:40:40 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am very mad at Disney. Give me my James Marsden song!!!!!)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg
you have better just die or you’re fired

Some years ago I had occasion to visit the Cingular Call Center in Baton Rouge, and there was a sign on the door "firearms prohibited." Now I wondered at the time (and still do) just what that was supposed to accomplish.

Did the moron(s) in upper management who came up with that policy actually think that some enraged head case coming in to kill his/her cheatin' S.O. would stop and look at the sign and say "Oh they don't allow firearms here, I'd better not come in and shoot the place up?" I can only assume it was management throwing its weight around for the sake of throwing its weight around and general employee harassment.

12 posted on 04/29/2008 4:41:12 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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Wow, the word “generally” must be my friend this morning.
Sorry.


13 posted on 04/29/2008 4:42:01 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am very mad at Disney. Give me my James Marsden song!!!!!)
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To: netmilsmom
but generally delivering is not the most dangerous job on Earth.

LOL Did anyone ever aver that it was? I'd go with EOD as the most dangerous job, but among the non-military professions commercial fishing is almost always number one with electrician, construction work, non-farm landscaping, truck driving, high steel, and commercial pilot (including all commercial pilots, not just airlines) being the most dangerous professions.

14 posted on 04/29/2008 4:47:09 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: caver
The big cities are full of those kind of people.

They're called "democratic voters"

15 posted on 04/29/2008 4:48:50 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: from occupied ga

Like a magic talisman worn around the neck to ward off evil, those signs are an act of faith in an icon.

The faithful pray that by putting that talisman in the path of someone with a weapon, some mystical force will intercede on their behalf and save them from harm.

It’s like a child throwing a blanket over his head when hes terrified and whispering over and over “there are no monster, there are no monsters” when we all know there are indeed monsters.

And THEY are armed.


16 posted on 04/29/2008 4:49:06 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg ("Shut the hell up, New York Times, you sanctimonious whining jerks!" - Craig Ferguson)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Portsmouth.

Maine?
Rhode Island?
Hampshire, UK?
Ontario, Canada?
Ohio?
Michigan?


17 posted on 04/29/2008 4:49:46 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The women got the vote and the Nation got Harding.)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg
Like a magic talisman worn around the neck to ward off evil, those signs are an act of faith in an icon.

Talisman that I wear to ward off evil


18 posted on 04/29/2008 4:54:42 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Virginia.


19 posted on 04/29/2008 4:56:28 AM PDT by nfldgirl (Tribe Member: 'Runs with Rush')
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To: from occupied ga

Very powerful juju.

I have a similar talisman with a Parkerized finish.


20 posted on 04/29/2008 5:00:07 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg ("Shut the hell up, New York Times, you sanctimonious whining jerks!" - Craig Ferguson)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Virginia. That ticks me off too. I was thinking New Hampster.


21 posted on 04/29/2008 5:05:27 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Who Would Montgomery Brewster Choose?)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

And my talisman speaks with a Czech accent.


22 posted on 04/29/2008 5:12:18 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

RIP.


23 posted on 04/29/2008 5:14:47 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: NonValueAdded; Lonesome in Massachussets
New Hampster.

In case any kids are reading the site, watch your spelling.

it's "Nampsha."

I never go near "Massachussets," no matter how you try and disguise it, and I advise children to do the same.

24 posted on 04/29/2008 5:14:51 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (GOP Plank: Pump MORE US Crude--2Xrefining capacity -- Coal /METHANOL fuel-- Build Nukes)
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To: NonValueAdded

Nothing to see here, nothing new. In the greater Hampton Roads area, there are three areas to avoid: Park Place in Norfolk (it’s getting better), the East End in Newport News (I’d rather go to Iraq) and most of Portsmouth.

Granted, there are good areas of Portsmouth, Norfolk, and Newport News, but these areas seem to be always in the news here. My trips to P-Town consist of when I have to work at the Naval Shipyard, or medical appointments at the Naval Hospital. Same with the other places. I’ll go there if absolutely necessary.


25 posted on 04/29/2008 5:21:36 AM PDT by fredhead (4-cylinder, air cooled, horizontally opposed......THE REAL VW!!!)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Please put the state in titles. I didn’t know if this was england or nh.


26 posted on 04/29/2008 5:29:41 AM PDT by omega4179 (b.hussein)
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To: from occupied ga
non-farm landscaping?

How is that dangerous?

27 posted on 04/29/2008 5:42:59 AM PDT by painter
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To: from occupied ga

The mom on the thread was glad her son was no longer delivering. She thought it was dangerous.


28 posted on 04/29/2008 5:57:22 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am very mad at Disney. Give me my James Marsden song!!!!!)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
Just Friday night, there was an attempted robbery at Silver Mine Subs. A driver returned from a run just in time to see a guy in a mask jump the counter and threaten an 18 year old girl with a knife. This driver has a CCW and acted decisively to bring the incident to a conclusion without anyone getting hurt.

Silver Mine is a sub shop based in Colorado. The employee handbook doesn't address weapons at all. The owner of the franchise is cool with what happened.

I'm quite happy I no longer work at Domino's. The driver in the above incident was I, and that's all I want to say about it.

29 posted on 04/29/2008 6:00:32 AM PDT by real saxophonist (The fact that you play tuba doesn't make you any less lethal. -USMC bandsman in Iraq)
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To: painter
How is that dangerous?

I believe that the US department of labor includes site preparation for construction projects ie grading etc. in this category. Working around big heavy mobile machinery is always dangerous. I'll give you an example of how two landscapers were killed in Athens, Ga a couple of years ago. They were using a bobcat (not a small one) to move soil around and the bucket got stuck in the up position. They turned off the machine and disconnected the hydrulic line while under the bucket. Needless to say, they didn't survive having the bucket full of soil drop on them.

30 posted on 04/29/2008 6:16:50 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets; GeorgiaDawg32

“Portsmouth.
Maine?
Rhode Island?
Hampshire, UK?
Ontario, Canada?
Ohio?
Michigan?”

One of my biggest gripes with FreeRepublic are posters who put up articles like this, with absolutely no clue in the title as to WHERE the information is coming from or WHERE the incidents occurred.

Can’t you at least put in parentheses a clue?

- John


31 posted on 04/29/2008 6:42:47 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: Fishrrman; Lonesome in Massachussets; GeorgiaDawg32

You left out Portsmouth, Virginia. From the associated website I’m going to guess it’s the Virginia city by that name.


32 posted on 04/29/2008 6:50:51 AM PDT by Darnright (If "pro" is the opposite of "con", is progress the opposite of congress?)
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To: from occupied ga

That makes sense.


33 posted on 04/29/2008 7:24:19 AM PDT by painter
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To: Fishrrman

I beg a thousand pardons for that transgression. I read the article and MISSED that it didn’t have the state.


34 posted on 04/29/2008 7:47:16 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (www.liberallunacy.bravehost.com..I'm a Patriot Guard Rider. www.patriotguard.org for info.)
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