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Incest father on 'boys holiday' as his captives languish in his secret dungeon
London Evening Standard ^ | 29/04/08 | Evening Standard

Posted on 04/29/2008 10:23:49 AM PDT by MrEdd

The evil father who locked up his daughter in a cellar for 24 years and fathered her seven children was pictured on a 'boys holiday' to Thailand in the 1990s, it has been revealed.

Josep Friztl is believed to have stockpiled food in the dungeon where Elisabeth and her three children were being held.

The four were expected to survive alone for up to two weeks until Fritzl returned. Snaps of the electrical engineer enjoying himself were made public for the first time today.

They come as it was revealed that Fritzl has told police he acted alone.

He has told detectives he was not helped to keep his Elisabeth and their children hidden in his cramped basement.

But police are not yet convinced he is telling the truth and are investigating how he could have bought food and clothes for them without anyone suspecting.

The 73-year-old pensioner, who has now been confirmed as the father of all Elisabeth's children, was today remanded in custody for two weeks.

(Excerpt) Read more at thisislondon.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: crime; fritzl; incest; moralabsolutes; rape
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1 posted on 04/29/2008 10:23:50 AM PDT by MrEdd
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To: brytlea

ping


2 posted on 04/29/2008 10:24:37 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MrEdd; JRios1968; martin_fierro; Red Badger; RexBeach; weegee; dead; wideawake

THAILAND? ping...


3 posted on 04/29/2008 10:26:29 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: MrEdd
The 73-year-old pensioner, who has now been confirmed as the father of all Elisabeth's children, was today remanded in custody for two weeks.

Wow, two whole weeks?

4 posted on 04/29/2008 10:27:49 AM PDT by Koblenz (The Dem Platform, condensed: 1. Tax and Spend. 2. Cut and Run. 3. Man on Man)
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To: Koblenz

That is just Eurospeak for no bail until the arraignment.


5 posted on 04/29/2008 10:31:41 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: metmom; Politicalmom

Pinging you before any of the usual suspects show up to say this was okay.


6 posted on 04/29/2008 10:33:38 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MrEdd
More proof that men in Speedos are evil.
7 posted on 04/29/2008 10:34:02 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Mossad!)
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To: MrEdd

Who are the usual suspects that would say THIS was “OK”?


8 posted on 04/29/2008 10:45:31 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: MeanWestTexan

GUILTY! GUILTY! AAAAAH!

This is just...I can’t believe this entire story. I’m having real trouble buying that this freak’s wife didn’t know SOMETHING about what was going on. How could there be up to four people living in their basement for almost a quarter of a century, and she didn’t know about it? Maybe she didn’t, but I just can’t understand how, if that’s true.

}:-)4


9 posted on 04/29/2008 10:46:02 AM PDT by Moose4 (http://moosedroppings.wordpress.com -- Because 20 million self-important blogs just aren't enough.)
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To: Moose4

One of the articles linked in another thread points out that the freak and his wife took in boarders - who also noticed nothing. Lot of oblivious people out there, apparently. But, to be truthful, I can’t say I know all that goes on in my neighbor’s homes.


10 posted on 04/29/2008 10:51:45 AM PDT by knittnmom (...surrounded by reality!)
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To: Moose4

maybe she was scared he would stick her in the basement too


11 posted on 04/29/2008 10:53:30 AM PDT by CharlieOK1 (you get that thing I sent ya?)
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To: MrEdd
The retired electrician faces charges of incest, abduction and imprisonment and could serve 15 years in jail if convicted.

They have got to be joking! He imprisons his daughter for 24 YEARS and rapes her MANY times, and the MAXIMUM sentence he can get is 15 years?

12 posted on 04/29/2008 10:56:54 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Not to discredit what you are saying, but at 73 years old, a 15 year sentence is likely a LIFE SENTENCE, for him.


13 posted on 04/29/2008 11:03:45 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all posters)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG; greyfoxx39
Who are the usual suspects that would say THIS was “OK”?

One of the favorite fLDS apologists' "lines" is that nobody's been "convicted" yet. Has anybody seen an fLDS defender spouting that same line in this or similar threads? No?

14 posted on 04/29/2008 11:04:35 AM PDT by Colofornian (What's a planetary compound w/a local god ruling polygamous wives? LDS celestial kingdom)
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To: MrEdd
This stuff is just gross. But this part of the article got me: The retired electrician faces charges of incest, abduction and imprisonment and could serve 15 years in jail if convicted.

15 years???? He should at LEAST get a year for each year they were locked up by him!

susie

15 posted on 04/29/2008 11:06:47 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: UCANSEE2

You’re right, but it’s the principal of the thing in this case. Of course, I think he should get at least a year, per person locked up.
susie


16 posted on 04/29/2008 11:08:14 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Colofornian
Exactly what I was thinking, our FLDS/LDS defenders coming to the rescue of this poor misunderstood soul...
17 posted on 04/29/2008 11:09:03 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery.)
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To: Colofornian

I think the line is usually that nobody’s been “charged,” not “convicted.”


18 posted on 04/29/2008 11:10:11 AM PDT by mvpel
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To: Colofornian; greyfoxx39

Honest to goodness, when I read the headline, I thought it this was a thread about the FLDS fathers and their “Lost Boys” that have been abandoned by their families.


19 posted on 04/29/2008 11:20:26 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
It is easy to get confused when we have multiple perversion going on with in the same time span...
20 posted on 04/29/2008 11:22:58 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery.)
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To: MrEdd

Of course the wife knew. There’s no way she didn’t know. I also find it hard to believe the kids, no matter how tyrannical he could be, never once ventured down into the basement to do a little exploring as kids will do or they didn’t notice daddy dearest was busy building and taking supplies down there. Perhaps the kids didn’t know exactly what was going on down there, but they had to have known something was unusual was going on behind that door. Looking at the picture, you can see very plainly the marks the door made on the floor so it’s not like it was that big a secret.


21 posted on 04/29/2008 11:24:11 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: ejonesie22

Long ago, we didn’t have the news access that we have today.

I remember discussing this with my mother. She said that yes, there is a lot of negativity in the immediacy of the news. I told her that was true, BUT, we never used to hear as much good news, either. I mean with technology, we can now read about the news in rural Iowa, human interest stories about good things that never would have made it to newsprint in the past.


22 posted on 04/29/2008 11:27:02 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife
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To: MrEdd
I can't post what I want to say should happen to this guy. comment deleted by moderator
23 posted on 04/29/2008 11:28:43 AM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

Very true, we do get the good news as well, despite the best efforts of the MSM...


24 posted on 04/29/2008 11:28:56 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Unreal. How can you imprison someone for 24 years and only go to prison for a max of 15??

This is crazy. Austrians need to protest this. He is a MONSTER - an absolute MONSTER.


25 posted on 04/29/2008 11:35:18 AM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: mtbopfuyn

Calling Gladys Kravitz....


26 posted on 04/29/2008 11:36:09 AM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: mtbopfuyn

Look at the map of the place -— looks to me more of the complex was under the back yard/street than the basement.

The only thing in the basement was a dummy 2’ by 3’ electrical access panel -— that was locked.


27 posted on 04/29/2008 11:38:14 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Mossad!)
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To: UCANSEE2
at 73 years old, a 15 year sentence is likely a LIFE SENTENCE

No matter his age a prison sentence is likely a death sentence. Prisoners will be lining up for the prestige of killing this freak.

Of course because of that he will probably be given a special cell and special protection at a cost of $100k a year.

28 posted on 04/29/2008 11:44:18 AM PDT by bird4four4 (Behead those who suggest Islam is violent!)
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To: UCANSEE2
at 73 years old, a 15 year sentence is likely a LIFE SENTENCE

No matter his age a prison sentence is likely a death sentence. Prisoners will be lining up for the prestige of killing this freak.

Of course because of that he will probably be given a special cell and special protection at a cost of $100k a year.

29 posted on 04/29/2008 11:44:22 AM PDT by bird4four4 (Behead those who suggest Islam is violent!)
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To: MrEdd

where is the death penalty when you need it?


30 posted on 04/29/2008 11:56:03 AM PDT by bpjam (Drill For Oil or Lose Your Job!! Vote Nov 3, 2008)
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To: MrEdd

We know that he is the father of the 6 kids, but do we know if he is the father of Elizabeth? I have not seen if there was a DNA test between the two of them.


31 posted on 04/29/2008 12:07:27 PM PDT by JBCiejka
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To: najida
Guilty! Guilty! Guilty!
32 posted on 04/29/2008 12:10:48 PM PDT by tioga
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To: JBCiejka
We know that he is the father of the 6 kids, but do we know if he is the father of Elizabeth? I have not seen if there was a DNA test between the two of them.

Obviously they had to take DNA from both to check the children, so of course they know.

35 posted on 04/29/2008 12:23:14 PM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter(the Godfather of Terror) allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

Far too many I fear-—


36 posted on 04/29/2008 12:27:03 PM PDT by najida (On FR- Most guys see themselves is Brad Pitt, and think every woman here is Aunt Bea)
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To: MrEdd; Politicalmom

LOL. Just claim it’s part of his religion.


37 posted on 04/29/2008 12:30:01 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Colofornian
"One of the favorite fLDS apologists' "lines" is that nobody's been "convicted" yet. Has anybody seen an fLDS defender spouting that same line in this or similar threads? No?"

They don't need to because the Scum Bag has admitted his guilt.

38 posted on 04/29/2008 12:35:58 PM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: tioga

He’s a disgustingly porcine piece of crap.


39 posted on 04/29/2008 12:36:57 PM PDT by najida (On FR- Most guys see themselves is Brad Pitt, and think every woman here is Aunt Bea)
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To: metmom

So if there is some problem with the warrant, or whatever they do in Austria, are people around here going to start screaming

“Send them back!! What right do they have to RIP this man’s children away from him? Did he get DUE PROCESS??”


40 posted on 04/29/2008 12:37:35 PM PDT by Politicalmom (The children were taken because they were either being raised to be raped, or raised to be a rapist.)
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To: MrEdd

OK. Just HOW did they find out about this?

I read the articles and couldn’t really figure it out.

FR’s posting guidelines prohibit me from saying what I think about this worthless piece of human shaped excrement, but maybe the mods would give everyone a pass in this case.


41 posted on 04/29/2008 12:41:34 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

AAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!

My eyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Must wash that image out of my eyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


42 posted on 04/29/2008 12:42:21 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: MeanWestTexan

AAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!

My eyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Must wash that image out of my eyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


43 posted on 04/29/2008 12:42:21 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: KosmicKitty

Yep, wearing speedos should be a capital offense.


44 posted on 04/29/2008 12:47:59 PM PDT by najida (On FR- Most guys see themselves is Brad Pitt, and think every woman here is Aunt Bea)
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To: metmom
"OK. Just HOW did they find out about this?"

In one of the articles I read it stated that the 19 year old of Elizabeth and this scum bag got very ill and he took her to the hospital. Apparently the hospital was puzzled by this mystery illness and put out a plea for the girls mother to come forward. Apparently there was a TV in this cellar because it said that Elizabeth heard this plea and convinced her father to let her go to the hospital. While there DNA was taken and the dirty secret was out.

45 posted on 04/29/2008 12:48:21 PM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: MrEdd
I'm waiting for all those apologists that want to criticize the government for stepping in and freeing that poor woman and her kids.

You know, the same idiots that believe those young girls were far better off being raped by old men in that church compound in Texas that being held in foster homes.

46 posted on 04/29/2008 12:59:23 PM PDT by John123 (Fluoride is NOT a neuro-toxin. It is a cavity fighter in spite of NO PEER Reviewed PROOF!)
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To: Spunky

Thanks.


47 posted on 04/29/2008 1:11:18 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: MrEdd

Maybe it’s just me but if someone tried to imprison me, I’d fight with my life to get free or plot some way of overpowering him. It’s not like she didn’t have time to think it over.

As for his wife..... If someone forbade me to go somewhere in my own home, you’d better believe it’s the first place I would be to find out what they were hiding. I find it incomprehensible that she did not know enough about what was going on in her own house that she missed this.

How did she miss all the supplies going down there? The food and clothes? Digging the place out? Construction material taken down? No notice of the noise of water running through the pipes when she wasn’t using water? No sounds from the daughter or kids at all?


48 posted on 04/29/2008 1:16:10 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
OK. Just HOW did they find out about this?

In one of the early articles they said the 19 year old girl was so ill she needed hospitalization. As evil as he is, he chose to take her to the hospital rather than let her die. She is still in intensive care I believe.

49 posted on 04/29/2008 1:24:39 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MrEdd

It’s beyond comprehension.


50 posted on 04/29/2008 1:27:53 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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