Posted on 04/29/2008 11:10:38 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
If you watch much television, you've probably heard of a product called Mike's Hard Lemonade.
And if you ask Christopher Ratte and his wife how they lost custody of their 7-year-old son, the short version is that nobody in the Ratte family watches much television.
The way police and child protection workers figure it, Ratte should have known that what a Comerica Park vendor handed over when Ratte ordered a lemonade for his boy three Saturdays ago contained alcohol, and Ratte's ignorance justified placing young Leo in foster care until his dad got up to speed on the commercial beverage industry.
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NOW.
Hasn’t it occurred to these fools that foster care might be a worse fate that a few swigs of hard lemonade?
Maybe they’ve been drinking.
On FNC this morning they said they were going to have Prof. Ratte on, but the next 30 or 40 minutes were on other topics (mostly the destruction from the tornado in the Norfolk area) and I had other things to do, so never saw the interview.
For once a left-winger gets a taste of the nonsense he supports at the polls.
ML/NJ
Does this mean my six year old has to stop smoking cigars?
Sounds pretty much like communism...
The ironic thing is that alcoholic beverages like beer and wine are much healthier for children than soda pop and other corn-syrup laden junk that is peddled to our kids these days.
ML/NJ
Only in public.
susie
This is why I am against products that label themselves in ways that can be misleading. I could see someone having “Mike’s Hard Lemonade” in their frig at home and a person (not just a child, but even an elderly person) that might not know what “hard” means.
Child rearing needs to be left to the parents...and only the parents. A simple observation with no time to rebutte and CPS is in full swing. This isn’t the first story we’ve heard where they jumped the gun or have made the accused prove their innocence.
They father is guilty in that he did give the beverage to his son but not guilty of willfully trying to harm him.
“For once a left-winger gets a taste of the nonsense he supports at the polls.”
No more calls. We have a winner.
amen
Anyone else watch “Bones”
I can hear this prof saying, “Hard lemonade? I don’t know what that means!”
“Mike’s Lemonade with Five percent alcohol” is not as catchy.
Thank you. Thank you.
Your Honor, I base my conclusion on the basis that he is a University professor, has only one child AND orders lemonade for his child but somehow the vendor doesn’t understand and gives him alcohol?
The starnge this is that most kids that age will not like the taste of alcohol.
From the label, maybe not, although the label does indicate the alcohol content.
But from the taste, you’d have to be a moron NOT to be able to tell there’s hooch in it.
A college professor getting bit on the ass by “zero tolerance” just gives me happy feet
How about “Mike’s Overpriced, Cheap Lemonade Spiked with Cheap Liquor for People too Lazy to Bring Their own Vodka.”
ALL 'Child Protective Service' bureaucracies are E-V-I-L. I seriously doubt any of them ever actually "helped" a child.
Someone please tell me what Mike’s Hard Lemonade is???
ping
The starnge this is that most kids that age will not like the taste of alcohol.
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Mikes hard lemonade has no alcohol taste whatsoever, it’s sweetened so much it is covered up.
Now how is this possible? As the legal guardian of a child you do have the right to allow them alcohol within reasonable context. Hell every Italian family on the planet should have their kids taken away if this wasn’t true. Wine with special occasion dinners is virtually a birthright.
But from the taste, youd have to be a moron NOT to be able to tell theres hooch in it.
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I am a Baltimoron (I think that should count towards my moron status), but I’ve had a few of Mike’s products, and the cider vaguely tastes of hooch, but the lemonade not at all.
dmz - Baltimoron since 1958.
"You've got to be kidding," Ratte replied. He asked for the bottle, but the security guard snatched it before Ratte could examine the label.
But an ER resident who drew Leo's blood less than 90 minutes after he and his father were escorted from their seats detected no trace of alcohol.
This guy got screwed by some over-zealous rambo-wanna-be security guard.
No excuse for going beyond notifying the father of the alcohol content.
The father is lucky he had connections or he wouldn't be seeing his kid for months.
“Mikes hard lemonade has no alcohol taste whatsoever, its sweetened so much it is covered up.”
I have never heard of the the stuff, but I take it that “Lemonade Lucy” would NOT serve this in the White House...right??
I drank a whole whiskey sour when I was one. Always liked them.
We don’t keep soda pop in the house, not at all. And every sip of a drink containing alcohol destroys brain cells - not too bad when you’re an adult and have your max amount of brain cells. But alcohol is devastating to a young, devoloping brain. The human brain is fully developed in males by age 25, age 21-22 for females.
At the wal mart here, walking down the liquor isle, the workers took a magic marker and wrote on the Long Island Iced Tea bottles in large letters-—contains liquor, do not sell to minors.
Your credentials have been authenticated ;)
Well, then maybe the problem is theirs.
everybody involved should be fired asap
I knew a mother and father who punished their child by kicking it, like a football, across the living room. After a week of that the baby died with multiple and massive internal injuries.
So, you are right: parents always know best how to raise their child.
I actually was never aware that Long Island Iced Tea contained liquor either... not that it’s a risk for me, as I wouldn’t want iced tea to begin with. But I’m in college, and even I have a hard time determining if something contains alcohol!
It's bottled lemonade with a Viagra pill dissolved in it.
Latricia Jones was gonna show him who was boss!
Latricia hadda do a 'vestigashun an it was gonna take a lo-0-O-N-G time!
And I will wager the taste he got was as bitter as the lemonade.
you missed your sarc tag!
So you are a believer that the government knows better than you on how your child needs to be raised. Obviously, the parents of whom you speak are the exception so lets not play silly games. On the whole, most parents know waht is good for their kids. If you think otherwise then you must not have children of your own or are completly dependant on the gov’t for your marching orders.
In the real world most child abuse takes place at the hands of...parents. Not all parents are good for their children's welfare. So there is no easy and quick generalization that covers all the scenarios, as you have stated. But, as time goes on, you'll learn that.
Isn’t it naive at best to think that this story is of the exception, not of the Norm, and that most people are good parents? If not then you, my friend, have much to learn. especially if you think that the government will do a better job than “most” parents. Keep working on that reading thing.
Now it's "most people are good parents?"
What about: "Child rearing needs to be left to the parents...and only the parents"? When you (you) speak in absolutes, you get answers in absolutes.
I found some "pretty" beverages to serve. Fortunately, my daughter read the labels, or I would have been guilty of serving minors!
“Sharp shooting” is a good way to refine the argument and I will give you that but you have not refuted the question of governments role in family life. Is the government more qualified than you to raise your kids? That is even if you have kids. Are you suggesting you have never made a mistake that could be taken completly the wrong way and just got lucky because “big brother” wasn’t there watching?Again I ask, where do you stand?
Oh Hell NO!
I worked under contract providing medical services to Childrens' services. They, (in the name of their executive director) in turn, tried to get a contract on me (called a "hit.") Such was my criticism of them and their reaction to it. The judge was alerted by someone who tattled and the CS director went down in flames and off to prison. I got a permit to carry in Ohio because of it.
I guess we have been discovered as two operatives of the same mind who were firing at each during the darkness of night. Ha ha ha ha ha.
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