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Young Muslim designer wears his heart on his chest
Today's Zaman ^ | 27.04.2008 | H. SALİH ZENGİN

Posted on 04/29/2008 3:17:30 PM PDT by forkinsocket

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To: forkinsocket
Muslims can 'believe " all they want. but there is absolutely NOTHING to support that claim. The TRUTH and evidence supports it that Mohammad made Islam, actually he stole the pagen form of it from his grandfather, whose father invented the Allah rock, expanding the pagan rock worship that was rampant at the time.

His great grandfather purchased the Ka'aba from another tribe for a skin of wine and a whistle, the Ka'aba being a pile of unhewn rocks around a water hole in Mecca with no roof, in which pagan Arabs piled their various rock gods and left offering to them for safe passage.

This is written in so called Islamic "scripture" which is why Muslims are forbidden to read it without supervision and explanation by a scholar to tell them what it DOESN'T mean.

21 posted on 04/29/2008 4:15:22 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary
there is nothing "appropriate" about what he's doing. It's deceitful and insulting in fact.

Besides the fact I missed the part of "Jesus is a Muslim" which is highly insulting, what is deceitful and insulting about wearing a T-shirt with the slogans in the article?

I see way more insulting T-shirts worn by Americans every day

Would you prefer him to strap on a bomb belt to made a statement?

22 posted on 04/29/2008 4:16:56 PM PDT by Popman (Typical bitter white male clinging to my religion and guns......................)
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To: Popman
Many of his slogans are insulting and demeaning. Not just the "Jesus was a muslim" one.
"Hijab supporter" for example, is demeaning to women. It's a symbol of oppression. In some Islamic countries, a women can be stoned to death for not wearing one.

In Afgahistan during the Tasaliban days, a house full of women were allowed to burn to death because they weren't allowed out of the burning house without a Hijab.

If you knew the meaning and reason behind many of those slogans, you wouldn't think it so harmless.

It is exactly that ignorance of Islamic "culture" that Islam uses to entrench itself into western society and slowly destroy it.

23 posted on 04/29/2008 4:28:25 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Hildy

Yea Thats the crap they want the world to believe, they say Jesus was just a prophet and Moscum_mad was the last one.
Then they believe they have the answers we need and the lies go on..
Jesus said it plain..there is no one who knows the father, but the son..warned of false prophets

Moham_mad’s vision was to unite the people of the middle east and form his kingdom..to hell with Islam..puke be upon him..deceiver of billions..


24 posted on 04/29/2008 4:41:03 PM PDT by aeonspromise
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“I have to admit, I’m tempted to say something smart, but this story is a rarity.
A Muslim doing something positive to promote his faith in an appropriate manner

Sort of shocking!!!”

Actually it’s not all that rare or shocking.


25 posted on 04/29/2008 4:45:09 PM PDT by Valin
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To: Nathan Zachary
If you knew the meaning and reason behind many of those slogans, you wouldn't think it so harmless.

I know very well the meaning and reason behind the slogans, (maybe even more than you) and where exactly did I say it was harmless?

Everyday I see T-shirts that are harmful in many ways to our culture in America, but we as free people have to put up with it to a point where what they say has become dangerous, then we act.

It is exactly that ignorance of Islamic "culture" that Islam uses to entrench itself into western society and slowly destroy it.

You speak to me like I'm clueless about the long term objectives of Islam goal of the rebuilding the Caliphate

Last time I looked Germany was a free country ruled under the socialist democracy, which allows their people free expression even for a young German citizen of Turkish descent to have the freedom to do so.

Not to allow these expressions will result in Muslim making violent statements instead.

I for one would much rather see a guy wearing a "Terrorism has no religion," "Drop love, not bombs," "Worship the Creator, not the creation," T-shirt than blood, guts spayed and body parts all over a train station

26 posted on 04/29/2008 4:47:40 PM PDT by Popman (Typical bitter white male clinging to my religion and guns......................)
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...spreading Islam's message through a more contemporary and esthetically appealing manner...

Social jihad.

27 posted on 04/29/2008 5:00:41 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Nathan Zachary
"In Afgahistan during the Tasaliban days, a house full of women were allowed to burn to death because they weren't allowed out of the burning house without a Hijab."

That happened in a school for girls in Saudi, too.

29 posted on 04/29/2008 5:22:43 PM PDT by cake_crumb (At the rate Obama's going, his bus'll need a lift kit just to clear all the bodies.)
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"I for one would much rather see a guy wearing a "Terrorism has no religion,"...

A Muslim wearing a T-shirt saying that is a LIAR. I wouldn't want to see one wearing it. All Muslims are not terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslim. Terrorists do have a religion, it's called Islam. Islam endorses terrorism, and calls for terrorism to subdue the people of the lands it is 'spreading peaceful islam.

Perhaps you do know what islam is all about. but your comments don't reflect that knowledge.

I don't agree with you that it's ok for people to wear deceitful t-shirts promoting the most evil and barbaric blood cult on earth.
That wasn't the intent of 'freedom of speech'.

30 posted on 04/29/2008 5:24:12 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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"Not to allow these expressions will result in Muslim making violent statements instead."

Good. Lets get it over with. A quick war is better than a slow genocide, ending in a short war that we WILL loose.

31 posted on 04/29/2008 5:29:54 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: forkinsocket
"Terrorism has no religion, ..."

Terrorism is an act, therefore it has no religion. However, the vast majority of terrorism in the world is done by radical muslims and that is a fact that a t-shirt can't explain away.

32 posted on 04/29/2008 5:37:30 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde ("When the government fears the people there is liberty ... " Thomas Jefferson)
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To: cake_crumb
Horrible, brutal disgusting things happen to women in Islamic countries on a daily basis. We just seldom get a glimpse of those atrocities. Daughters murdered for even looking at a guy. Daughters soaked in fuel and light on fire, burned alive for causing dishonor to the family.

It's real sad, that when we KNOW all this goes on in those barbaric countries, muslim women come here and tell us it's something the WANT to wear.
Worse, womens rights groups stand in support of them!
In reality, 9 out of 10 of them are told to stand out on the street and make these claims. If they didn't, we know what would happen. We just can't see the beaten faces.

33 posted on 04/29/2008 5:43:42 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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