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Dungeon children speak in animal language (Heartbreaking)
Telegraph.co.uk ^ | April 30, 2008 | Nick Allen in Amstetten

Posted on 04/30/2008 2:41:19 PM PDT by PROCON

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To: July 4th
The risk of genetic problems from incest is actually far lower than one would expectYeah especially Parent-child incest one time.

I inbred my best sheep for one generation and then bred as far away as I could from their genetics for the next generation. In animal husbandry inbreeding can give you two copies of good genes (making the animal"pre-potent" - more likely to have off-spring with a desired phenotype, and can also help you identify bad traits and animal might have so you can intentionally breed away from it or discuss it with customers. For example if one line had a recessive tendency to overbite (parrot-mouth) I would make sure the buyer didn't have over-byte already going on in his flock.

But in any event, unless there are already genetic problems, inbreeding isn't likely to make a problem for one generation.

Nevertheless, this guy needs to be in jail for the rest of his life. What a wussy country if all he can get is 15 years!

61 posted on 04/30/2008 5:49:11 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg; July 4th
I was just going to say, breeding cats I sometimes "line bred" -- i.e. up and down the pedigree, but never "inbred" -- across the pedigree.

My best results were from grandsire-granddaughter matings, got my Champion from breeding a solid but not particularly great female cat back to her triple-champion grandsire.

Since I've just started with dogs, I'm looking for open pedigrees (no line or in breeding) and working from there.

62 posted on 04/30/2008 7:20:06 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: PROCON

Then we have the Dad who buys his kid a Lemonade at the ball game unknowingly that it was 5% liquor and kid is removed from his home for a week.

I threw my hands up a while back on the zero tolerance nonsense and stupity of those hold a pinch of power over the rest of us.


63 posted on 04/30/2008 10:13:54 PM PDT by Global2010
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Limited exposure to objects in life may have not required much speech.

Another thought not being able to physically experience things like sun, drive, wind left no need for verbalizing.


64 posted on 04/30/2008 10:23:26 PM PDT by Global2010
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To: Southerngl

“This is when I question my own Christian beliefs that a man can utter an I’m sorry and get eternity in heaven.”

I was thinking a similar thought! And yes, I believe that if he truly repents and believes in Jesus he can be saved. And as un-Christian as it is, I hope that he dies before that happens. (Man, that’s a terrible thing to say, but...)


65 posted on 04/30/2008 10:39:19 PM PDT by 21twelve (Don't wish for peace. Pray for Victory.)
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To: Bon mots; nmh; spacejunkie01; PROCON; Southerngl; maine-iac7; MeanWestTexan

That is HORRIBLE. They ought to just shoot the SOB, no further questions.


66 posted on 05/01/2008 5:40:33 AM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: Mad Dawg

“Nevertheless, this guy needs to be in jail for the rest of his life.”

Hopefully with very big and mean cell mate who will make him his own personal object of interest.


67 posted on 05/01/2008 5:43:16 AM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: KansasGirl
They ought to just shoot the SOB, no further questions.

I disagree.

Shooting's too quick - too good for him.

I vote for a 6 x 6 windowless cell, no human contact, never see daylight again = for life.

I read that the max sentence he can get there is 15 years! Unreal. It should at least be 15 for each person he tortured - that would insure he never walk among human beings again - why should he? He's not human.

68 posted on 05/01/2008 7:17:45 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Typical Gun-Toting, Jesus-Loving Gramma)
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To: 21twelve

Well, God is going to have to work on my heart hard for me to want to spend an eternity with this man’s soul.


69 posted on 05/01/2008 10:29:20 AM PDT by Southerngl
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To: Ingtar

Oh brother, that is just a stupid post.


70 posted on 05/01/2008 10:55:08 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: spacejunkie01

lack of Vitamin D


71 posted on 05/01/2008 1:36:48 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Mossad!)
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And what would have happened if he had died? Would his daughter and those poor kids have starved to death in their prison, their plight unknown to the world?

That's the thought that has given me chills, over and over.

72 posted on 05/06/2008 5:33:32 AM PDT by proud American in Canada ("We can, and we will prevail.")
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To: JJR RNCH

I don’t think the word “strange” is even close. This is just horrific and tragic and I read another article today wherein the father said he is “not a monster” because he could have “killed them all” and “nobody would have ever known.”

I always love how monsters like to define the definition of the word monster, so I suppose the word monster, if properly defined would be:

Monster: Noun. Something a monster says he is not.


73 posted on 05/07/2008 11:24:25 AM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

I wondered the same thing as you. I’m thinking it might have something to do with the lack of air. I read that the investigators could only work in the cellar for an hour at a time because of the lack of air, so perhaps they did have a lack of oxygen.

Only time and many, many medical examinations will really tell the truth. The sad thing for these poor children is that they were captive for years by their monster “father” and now they will be captive to all the academics and scientists who will want to study them.


74 posted on 05/07/2008 11:26:37 AM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Biblebelter

I think you hit on the really important thing about the eternal justice for these people. I always wonder how people don’t ever think about God and his power. The Bible tells us not to be afraid of death because it can only come once, yet the eternal fires of hell burn forever where one can only scream and cry for death to come but it never will. These poor souls lived in captivity for years but this guy will live in captivity for eternity where the worm does not die. I shudder at even the thought


75 posted on 05/07/2008 11:32:31 AM PDT by Paved Paradise
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