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Cosby Brings 'Blunt' Message To Community Leaders In N.J.
WNBC.COM ^ | 05/01/08 | Puppage

Posted on 05/01/2008 12:11:45 PM PDT by Puppage

NEWARK, N.J. -- Comedian Bill Cosby told several hundred people at a conference of community associations Thursday to stand up and confront the ills facing black Americans and ignore those he called "intellectual panhandlers."

Characterizing his own words as "blunt, but not harsh," Cosby criticized a culture in which "babies are wearing $40 sneakers while their mothers are feeding them Oodles of Noodles" and in which pimps and murderers are seen as heroes.

During a speech that lasted nearly an hour, he began by comparing current attitudes to a patient who ignores a toothache until it requires major surgery.

Several times he exhorted the audience to "stand up and stop looking for somebody to blame," a mantra that has angered some black leaders who have accused him of downplaying the effects of long-term discrimination.

Cosby termed some of those critics "intellectual panhandlers" who enable destructive behaviors by staying silent or blaming them on racism.

"You've got these idiots who've got these degrees and some of them are ordained ministers and they say, 'Bill, you're picking on the poor,"' he said. He then drew laughs by adding, "Well, so did Jesus then. Jesus was always telling someone, 'Go ye.' Jesus was always telling people to go somewhere. And 'don't do this again or don't do that again."'

Wearing a sweater with a Yale University logo in honor of Newark Mayor Cory A. Booker, a Yale Law School graduate, Cosby saved some of most pointed words for radio stations that play music that he called "pro-murder and anti-women" and said adults are equally complicit if they fail to speak up.

"I haven't seen the demonstrations saying, 'I'm not allowing my children to listen to this," he said. "It's killing us. We're not talking about it, and we're not beating it down."

Thursday's conference was hosted by South Orange-based Family Intervention Services and Newark Now, an organization formed by Booker.

Cosby was introduced by Booker, who touted the Family Success program he developed that has expanded to 11 support facilities in Newark, as well as his efforts to develop a re-entry program for ex-convicts once they are released from prison.

Booker called Cosby "a critical voice right now in the American context" and praised his willingness to speak out on issues without bowing to political correctness.

"This is a time for candor -- we can't beat around the bush," Booker said. "We've got large percentages of our population that are underachieving. He's speaking to the heart of the matter, and he speaks to the realities of what a lot of folks are experiencing."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: billcosby; cosby
Characterizing his own words as "blunt, but not harsh," Cosby criticized a culture in which "babies are wearing $40 sneakers while their mothers are feeding them Oodles of Noodles" and in which pimps and murderers are seen as heroes.

Tru dat

1 posted on 05/01/2008 12:11:45 PM PDT by Puppage
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To: Puppage

Bill Cosby is awesome!


2 posted on 05/01/2008 12:15:00 PM PDT by contemplator (Capitalism gets no Rock Concerts)
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To: Puppage
Think what you want about Cosby, but he is shouting personal responsibility, something that should be shouted from the roof tops everywhere.
3 posted on 05/01/2008 12:15:40 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: Puppage

“You’ve got these idiots who’ve got these degrees and some of them are ordained ministers and they say, ‘Bill, you’re picking on the poor,”’ he said. He then drew laughs by adding, “Well, so did Jesus then. Jesus was always telling someone, ‘Go ye.’ Jesus was always telling people to go somewhere. And ‘don’t do this again or don’t do that again.”’

I NOMINATE BILL COSBY FOR NEW SPIRITUAL ADVISOR/MENTOR TO BARACK OBAMA!


4 posted on 05/01/2008 12:16:00 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: Puppage

I am very certain the ‘Race Pimps’ like Sharpton, Jackson and others who have made it an industry of keeping Blacks down and in the ‘Victim’ mode, do not want to hear what Cosby has to say. They’ve been pretty successful in keeping him out of the mainstream and keeping their ‘Flocks’ on the Plantation.


5 posted on 05/01/2008 12:17:40 PM PDT by TCats
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To: vpintheak
but he is shouting personal responsibility, something that should be shouted from the roof tops everywhere

I couldn't agree more.

6 posted on 05/01/2008 12:17:51 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Puppage

Anyone who really cares about helping black folks should line up behind Cosby. I don’t expect to see Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Jeremiah Wright or Alicia Keyes in that crowd, which says a lot about them.


7 posted on 05/01/2008 12:20:58 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: vpintheak

The Fox “Talk Show” faux-comedy show that is midnight on Saturdays had a guy stand up in the audience last week, pretending to be Cosby. Sweater, cigar, and taking about “the hip-hopping munsic with the pants hanging down”, trying to make this deadly serious moment of clarity something silly, and ridicule Cosby. Isn’t it sad that this personal attack, trying to make him look like “the grumpy old guy on the front porch yelling at the kids” is used to try and avoid media’s responsibility for making money off of filth?


8 posted on 05/01/2008 12:21:28 PM PDT by 50sDad (OBAMA: In your heart you know he's Wright.)
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To: Puppage

“Dad is great, he gives us chocolate cake” bump


9 posted on 05/01/2008 12:23:19 PM PDT by wordsofearnest ("That government is best which governs least" & Zachary Taylor s/h finished the job.)
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To: contemplator

This isn’t the same Bill Cosby who was accused by 10 young
women of drugging them and sexually molesting them?


10 posted on 05/01/2008 12:25:26 PM PDT by Dr. Ursus (( commander of the simian host))
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To: contemplator

Bill Cosby is a hero of mine!
God Bless him!


11 posted on 05/01/2008 12:26:20 PM PDT by griswold3 (Al queda is guilty of hirabah (war against society) Penalty is death.)
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To: Dr. Ursus

I never heard that story, was any of it ever proven? If not, there is a good likelihood that Bill could be the victim of would-be gold diggers.


12 posted on 05/01/2008 12:28:44 PM PDT by contemplator (Capitalism gets no Rock Concerts)
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To: Puppage

Cosby tells it like it is, but sadly, the people who should be paying attention are not listening.


13 posted on 05/01/2008 12:31:08 PM PDT by Old Grumpy
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To: Dr. Ursus

Even if true, does it make the things he’s saying any less valid?


14 posted on 05/01/2008 12:35:13 PM PDT by dfwgator (11+7+15=3 Heismans)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Paul Crouch and Mike Murdock made a fortune telling people what they wanted to hear. They don’t like it either when someone calls them out for it.


15 posted on 05/01/2008 12:36:18 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Dr. Ursus

Only one ever pursued charges and it never went to court. Just because you are accused doesn’t mean you did it.


16 posted on 05/01/2008 12:36:59 PM PDT by Domandred (McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
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To: contemplator

God bless Bill Cosby!


17 posted on 05/01/2008 12:37:39 PM PDT by fightinJAG (RUSH: McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton longer than we've been in Iraq, and never gave up.)
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To: TCats

Cosby threatens the lucrative racist hate-mongering industry led by Wright et al. Their whole schtick is based on the lie that whitey is keeping the black man down.

As you can see from this article, any suggestion that blacks can better their situation the way everyone else can better their situation, and that blacks no longer can pin their status on long-ago discrimination is met with howls from the racist hate-pimps.


18 posted on 05/01/2008 12:44:29 PM PDT by fightinJAG (RUSH: McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton longer than we've been in Iraq, and never gave up.)
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To: Cecily
I NOMINATE BILL COSBY FOR NEW SPIRITUAL ADVISOR/MENTOR TO BARACK OBAMA!

With my "not so happy" feelings about McCain, if Obama took Bill Cosby as a spiritual adviser, I'd vote for him.

19 posted on 05/01/2008 12:45:13 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Puppage

Is it too late to write his name in?


20 posted on 05/01/2008 12:45:40 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: ClearCase_guy

I agree totally.


21 posted on 05/01/2008 12:46:25 PM PDT by fightinJAG (RUSH: McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton longer than we've been in Iraq, and never gave up.)
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To: Old Grumpy

However, the fact that these things can be said at all, by anyone, is an improvement.


22 posted on 05/01/2008 12:47:28 PM PDT by fightinJAG (RUSH: McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton longer than we've been in Iraq, and never gave up.)
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To: Puppage
The race hustlers hate him for he deprives them of their alibi and the reason for their occupation: IT'S ALL WHITEY'S FAULT! Everything can be blamed on racism. And Bill Cosby has the nerve to show up and state it ain't so.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

23 posted on 05/01/2008 12:47:28 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Booker T Washington wrote about this, back in 1911:

“There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs — partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do do not want to lose their jobs.”


24 posted on 05/01/2008 12:49:15 PM PDT by dfwgator (11+7+15=3 Heismans)
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To: fightinJAG
Yes, even his supporter refers to his message as "Not politically correct".

There is likely to be a riot but maybe not between Blacks and Whites. It just might be between progressive Blacks who see themselves being kept down and the thugs who seem to hold sway today.

25 posted on 05/01/2008 12:50:36 PM PDT by TCats
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To: Puppage

Cosby is no conservative. I think he was a Kuchinich supporter.


26 posted on 05/01/2008 12:52:29 PM PDT by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: Puppage
I too applaud Cosby and his points. However, the simple fact of the matter is that it's not just the race hustlers like Jackson and Sharpton that are the issue. If there was not a certain amount of "buy-in" to their themes among the black community, Jackson/Sharpton et al wouldn't be where they are now. It's certainly "easier" to take that tack.

Recommended reading: John McWhorter's Winning the Race

27 posted on 05/01/2008 12:53:44 PM PDT by Renkluaf
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To: Puppage

If you selected at random 450 black highschool girls in Newark or Detroit, how many would have been sexually abused by older black men or have been pregnant and aborted or are pregnant now?

Compare that with the Texas debacle and see how badly it speaks for the urban black community.


28 posted on 05/01/2008 12:57:56 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The Bitcons will elect a Democrat by default)
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To: Hacklehead
Cosby is no conservative. I think he was a Kuchinich supporter

What does his political leanings have to do with his extolling the virtues of self reliance & personal responsibility?

29 posted on 05/01/2008 12:59:40 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Puppage

“What does his political leanings have to do with his extolling the virtues of self reliance & personal responsibility?”

I continue to marvel at the phenomenon of blacks who seem to favor conservative values while at the same time supporting moonbat liberal candidates. Is Dennis Koosinich the candidate of self reliance and personal responsibility? I just dont get it.


30 posted on 05/01/2008 1:25:21 PM PDT by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: Dr. Ursus

And your reason for dragging this
piece of nastiness into the discussion is. . . .?


31 posted on 05/01/2008 1:42:41 PM PDT by doberville
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To: Hacklehead
I continue to marvel at the phenomenon of blacks who seem to favor conservative values while at the same time supporting moonbat liberal candidates. Is Dennis Koosinich the candidate of self reliance and personal responsibility? I just dont get it.

Yeah, it does boggle the mind, doesn't it?

32 posted on 05/01/2008 1:42:50 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: doberville
And your reason for dragging this piece of nastiness into the discussion is. . . .?

Perhaps, to show a do as I say, not as I do aspect? Just a thought.

33 posted on 05/01/2008 1:44:53 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Puppage

Cosby is saying the truth, that this community’s problems are self-inflicted and that they should stop blaming Whitey for them. This would mean the end of the race industry and da revs Jesse, Al, and Jeremiah would be out of a job.


34 posted on 05/01/2008 1:48:50 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Dr. Ursus
This isn’t the same Bill Cosby who was accused by 10 young women of drugging them and sexually molesting them?

Which conveniently happened the previous time he tried a "hey guys, shape up OK?" lecture tour

35 posted on 05/01/2008 1:56:42 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." — George Orwell)
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To: Dr. Ursus

Or the same Cosby who gave Tawana Brawley $25,000 way back during that Sharpton fiasco?


36 posted on 05/01/2008 2:17:27 PM PDT by Seeking the truth (Queen Hillary faux postage stamps - 0cents.com)
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To: dfwgator

The man was a Prophet as well as a genius. Thank you for that quote.


37 posted on 05/01/2008 2:48:58 PM PDT by tajgirvan ( Pray for Steve Godbold, Christian Missionary Kidnapped in Africa 10/11/07 Steve Is FREE)
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