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Armed citizen dials 911 and waits...and waits...and waits... (Video)
www.buckeyefirearms.org ^ | 04/28/2008 | Chad D. Baus

Posted on 05/01/2008 7:23:44 PM PDT by lowbridge

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On Thursday, April 17, a drive-thru carryout owner and Concealed Handgun License (CHL)-holder was investigating why his security alarm went off after just having closed up for the night when he was surprised by an intruder who had been hiding in his store. The entire confrontation that followed was caught on tape.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IeVxeg4mgI

As can be seen in the security video the intruder surprised the store owner, who was forced to draw his gun when the intruder advanced toward him.

He ordered the intruder onto his knees, and held him at gunpoint while attempting to dial 911. At that point, the intruder got up and began advancing toward the CHL-holder again.

The store owner attempted to keep the intruder from approaching him, and showed admirable restraint as the intruder advanced on him several times.

The 911 call begins at that point.

"I've got a gun on a guy that's in my business," the store owner says. "Get the cops here."

"Where are you at?" inquires the 911 operator.

After the store owner gives his address and the name of his business, he says again "Get 'em here."

The operator responds by asking "Why do you have a gun on him?"

The store owner calmly explains "because he's in my business after hours."

At this point, the intruder can again be seen approaching the store owner, and moving himself out of the cameras' view.

The operator can be heard asking "who is this person?", just as the store owner is heard giving the intruder commands, and the operator asks again, "Who is this person?"

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: 911; 911isajoke; armedcitizen; banglist; dial911anddie; donutwatch; policestate; secondamendment; selfdefense
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IeVxeg4mgI

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1 posted on 05/01/2008 7:23:44 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: AnnaZ; HangFire

bump


2 posted on 05/01/2008 7:24:15 PM PDT by lowbridge ("I can't wait to see what he stands for." - Susan Sarandon on her support of Barack Obama)
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To: lowbridge

Simply appalling. How much training do these 911 operators get?? Why would she ever think that the man who called 911 was the bad guy??


3 posted on 05/01/2008 7:30:11 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: lowbridge

Moral of the story: pump off a round into the ceiling, then tell the 911 operator to forget the police, just send the meat wagon from the morgue. The cops will get there in a hurry.


4 posted on 05/01/2008 7:31:44 PM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .....)
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To: lowbridge

That 911 operator needs to be fired.


5 posted on 05/01/2008 7:32:51 PM PDT by gunservative
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To: lowbridge
Many years ago we had a problem with our dispatchers, for some reason they decided to start making judgment calls too. We had to assign an officer to dispatch to put an end to it. What eventually happened is 3 of them decided they didn't need someone telling them how to do their jobs so they filed a “group complaint”. Long story short, the people that replaced them worked out nicely.
6 posted on 05/01/2008 7:36:21 PM PDT by txroadkill (Liberals believe that the only oppressed people in Cuba are the terrorist in GitMo)
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To: lowbridge

Good Grief, this business owner needs to relocate to Texas.


7 posted on 05/01/2008 7:38:08 PM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: lowbridge

OMG. I hope the 911 operator receives some much needed training. I don’t think she listened to him at all, let alone knew what was going on. What is the big deal with telling a caller who might be in jeopardy “Don’t be brief with me”?? I’m glad with all her delays and nonsense that the business owner wasn’t hurt.


8 posted on 05/01/2008 7:41:33 PM PDT by ktscarlett66 (Face it girls....I'm older and I have more insurance....)
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To: lowbridge

Ping.


9 posted on 05/01/2008 7:43:02 PM PDT by BigCinBigD (")
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To: lowbridge
I'm not a nice person, but I would have THUMPed! about the time between the second and third command to get on the ground.

But I'm not a nice person.

Citizen action is NOT appreciated by local constabulary.

/johnny

10 posted on 05/01/2008 7:43:51 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: tgusa
pump off a round into the ceiling

Never. Always know your target, always know background. What goes up will come down. Generally, with the same V.

Besides, who wants to fix an overhead?

/johnny

11 posted on 05/01/2008 7:48:37 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: lowbridge
Always remember, the police are not under any obligation, constitutionally or otherwise, to protect you.

SCOTUS has ruled so, and the police association lawyers have fought hard to keep it that way.

12 posted on 05/01/2008 7:50:23 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: lowbridge

S S S


13 posted on 05/01/2008 7:51:22 PM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam. TWP VRWC)
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To: lowbridge

After about 30 seconds of the 911 nonsense, here’s my reply:

“You send the cops to this address and then hang up the phone and go review your training manual.” CLICK!!


14 posted on 05/01/2008 7:51:33 PM PDT by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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To: lowbridge
There is a saying, "To err is human, but it takes a computer to really foul things up."

Stories like this lead me to conclude that's being unfair to the computer.

15 posted on 05/01/2008 7:51:50 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: lowbridge

When seconds count, 911 will be there in minutes


16 posted on 05/01/2008 7:54:12 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: sockmonkey

Yeah, where the tape of you shooting the advancing crooks can be used against you in a court of law.

Our shamed DA Chuck Rosenthal (Rino) was against private use of guns for self-defense. That’s the boys in blue’s job.

He’s gone now. Somehow I don’t think the attitudes will change in the fall election.


17 posted on 05/01/2008 7:58:23 PM PDT by weegee (Vote Obama 2008 for a bitter America.)
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To: gunservative

It’s a good thing the County showed up, their dispatcher got it right, If Coulmbus had shown up, their dispatcher would have had them shooting at the property owner.


18 posted on 05/01/2008 7:58:28 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagon)
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To: G Larry

Tell them there is an officer down. They will be there in 5 minutes guns drawn...


19 posted on 05/01/2008 7:59:16 PM PDT by weegee (Vote Obama 2008 for a bitter America.)
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To: muir_redwoods
To be fair.... If you buy a cell phone somewhere, it may not roll to your location. MOST 911 operators, including one of my ex-wives... will ask, "What is your location?"

You have to be smart enough to tell them what community you are in.

Last time I needed a 911 operator, the guy at the Naval Air Station transferred me immediately to the correct folks. Of course, first words out of my mouth after I heard him answer were "I need **** *****). 10 seconds later, my wish was granted.

/johnny

20 posted on 05/01/2008 8:00:48 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: lowbridge
"This has opened my eyes to how bad the 911 system is when calling from a cell phone," he told me.

Yep. Apparently, the dispatcher lied to this guy when she said she was sending the police. I had a similar experience when I called 911 from a cell phone once during "an incident."

I quickly told them what was happening and gave them my location and the license plate numbers of the people who'd blocked me in. They told me they would send local police. No one came. Luckily, the fact that I was on the line with the police chased off the guy who was threatening me. But, I had to call a second time from my home phone inside my house before the police finally came. The 911 I called from my cell phone never passed the license plate numbers to the local police, either.

21 posted on 05/01/2008 8:00:58 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: originalbuckeye
Simply appalling. How much training do these 911 operators get?? Why would she ever think that the man who called 911 was the bad guy??

It depends on the city, but I know that many 911 operators are still eligible for food stamps while working a 40 hour week, so you can figure out a lot from that. I've known some excellent 911 people, and some that are hopeless.

22 posted on 05/01/2008 8:01:27 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Yeah, the chief of police and the mayor say we will protect you, but the police officer tells you to get a gun.
The poor, worse than poor, service he got from the Columbus 911 call is probably typical. The whole staff, not just her, and from the supervisor down, needs remedial training, pass it, or be fired.
It’s Political Correctness on Peter Principle-Affirmative Action steroids.
Incompetence and an anti-gun animus is fatal; it’s a symptom of PC, to wit: PC= HRC/BHO and about 40% of the public.
The sound wasn’t great, but the second operator seemed fine.
The guy is a poster child for NRA on how to handle a fireman maturely under very high stress. That’s pretty much a wow for me.
I hope I could handle the foolishly furtive burglar.
I cannot handle the first operator.


23 posted on 05/01/2008 8:03:57 PM PDT by BIV ("democrat " does not mean "democratic")
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To: weegee
Yeah, where the tape of you shooting the advancing crooks can be used against you in a court of law.

Geez, maybe he better relocate to Texas San Antonio.

24 posted on 05/01/2008 8:06:27 PM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: lowbridge

Seems to me that the best thing to do is to say, without malice, “I’ve got my hands full here, he’s making moves to attack me, I fear for my life, I’ve got to give this my full attention”. Then hang up.


25 posted on 05/01/2008 8:27:42 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (OVERPRODUCTION......... one of the top five worries for American farmers.)
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To: gunservative
That 911 operator needs to be fired.

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"You're fired."

26 posted on 05/01/2008 8:30:11 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: ktscarlett66
OMG. I hope the 911 operator receives some much needed training. I don’t think she listened to him at all, let alone knew what was going on.

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"You want da po-lice?"

27 posted on 05/01/2008 8:35:56 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Cobra64
Does anyone beside me see a resemblance between this photo of a plantation dimwit and that of Mrs. Michele Obama?
28 posted on 05/01/2008 8:42:27 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

yeah, why waste a round on a ceiling? The perp will think you don’t know how to aim, or aren’t serious.


29 posted on 05/01/2008 8:50:45 PM PDT by castlebrew (true gun control is hitting where you're aiming!)
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To: lowbridge

6 minutes is LIGHT SPEED compared to the 30 minutes it took the LAPD to come when our home was invaded in 1992.


30 posted on 05/01/2008 8:53:16 PM PDT by Adams
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To: Adams
My neighbor moved out of town, but came back on the weekends to fix up the house for sale. I heard banging all morning long, but it seemed normal. However, I was outside when there was a tremendous crash of glass. I looked over the fence to see a boy brushing the shattered glass from his shirt. He walked over to the bird bath and kicked it over.

I ran inside to the cordless phone to call 911. I put my 5 year old daughter in the closet and told her to stay there until I told her to come out. I also grabbed my Walther PPK.

I described the situation to the dispatcher as I went to the back door as the teen climbed over the fence to the front yard. I went to the front door as he tried to open my car door. He walked up the steps on my porch. As he reached for the doorknob, I prepared. He was not going to hurt me or my child. Plus I had new carpet so he was not even going to get in the door. "Get the cops here NOW" as I steadied my hand.

He turned and walked across the street, trying to get in doors. He stopped and petted a kitty cat.

Finally the cop showed up and arrested him. Sure enough, the kid had a gun. But it had taken almost 15 minutes to get help. The officer apologized sincerely. He confided that he could not understand the heavy ethnic pronunciation of the dispatcher and could not figure out the location. The kid had wrecked the house next door. Every wall, ceiling, tub, toilet, everything was damaged. He was an adopted special needs child and just went off. There was >$25,000 damage.

My 5 year old sat in the closet, holding a little plastic sword with pretty gemstones on the handle. She was ready too.

I just wanted to add this story, but have to sign off tonight. Thanks for letting me retell this story. Let me add that I am a girl and weighed about 100 lbs. Don't mess with a Mamma.

31 posted on 05/01/2008 9:24:35 PM PDT by myprecious
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To: gunservative
That 911 operator needs to be fired.

I believe this is more the norm than unusual - unfortunately =

A prime example of "When seconds count, cops are only minutes away."

Self defense is the first line of defense. More people need to be trained in it.

32 posted on 05/01/2008 9:24:40 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Typical Gun-Toting, Jesus-Loving Gramma)
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To: lowbridge

Sorry. But if she started in on me like that I’d have hung up on her. Name, address, cops, click.


33 posted on 05/01/2008 9:28:49 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Ted Kennedy - Codename -> "Bobber")
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To: myprecious
Plus I had new carpet so he was not even going to get in the door.

I like your way of thinking.

34 posted on 05/01/2008 9:41:49 PM PDT by TYVets
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To: txroadkill

Love a story with a nice ending.

Gee, somebody actually got fired for being incompetent?

Miracles do happen!


35 posted on 05/01/2008 9:50:10 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: lowbridge

Reminder bump!


36 posted on 05/01/2008 9:54:52 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here. ;-)
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To: gunservative

Was probably the 911 operator’s brother...


37 posted on 05/02/2008 5:20:00 AM PDT by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: Richard Kimball
It depends on the city, but I know that many 911 operators are still eligible for food stamps while working a 40 hour week, so you can figure out a lot from that. I've known some excellent 911 people, and some that are hopeless.

Because of recent expansion in eligibility, some of those food stamp-eligible folks make nearly the same income I do....

38 posted on 05/02/2008 5:23:54 AM PDT by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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