Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Airman Forgets to Lower Wheels, Crashes $136 Million U.K. Fighter Jet
FOXNews.com ^ | May 01, 2008 | The Sun

Posted on 05/01/2008 10:36:52 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

A Royal Air Force top gun crash-landed a new $136.3 million Typhoon fighter — apparently after forgetting to put the wheels down during a training exercise in California.

The state-of-the-art jet was badly damaged as it skidded along a runway on its belly at 130 mph.

"Everything points to the pilot forgetting to lower the wheels, which does happen from time to time," an RAF insider said.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: aerospace; oops; raf

The mangled jet will be brought back to Britain to see if it can be repaired.
1 posted on 05/01/2008 10:36:52 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper

No ground prox warning?


2 posted on 05/01/2008 10:39:20 PM PDT by cardinal4
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper

Military intelligence at its finest.


3 posted on 05/01/2008 10:41:32 PM PDT by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cardinal4

No “Check three down and locked” either.


4 posted on 05/01/2008 10:41:55 PM PDT by VR-21
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper

Looks like it should be pretty easy to spot on radar.


5 posted on 05/01/2008 10:42:31 PM PDT by PAR35
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper
"Everything points to the pilot forgetting to lower the wheels, which does happen from time to time," an RAF insider said.

Yes, it does indeed. And "everything points" to it because it's really, really, really difficult to explain otherwise when you're sitting in a jet fighter belly-down on the runway. That must be a rather uncomfortable feeling.

Fortunately, one's fellow pilots are a forgiving bunch and would never give somebody a hard time over it...heh heh...sucks to be him...

6 posted on 05/01/2008 10:44:03 PM PDT by Billthedrill
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cardinal4

For nearly 140 million dollars, I would expect there is some variant of Bitching Betty to let him know he’s screwing up.

But being a Brit jet, the English butler system they use may have been too polite to get to the heart of the matter.

“Excuse me sir, but there appears to be a problem with the....” CRASH...SKID... “Wheels. Oh my, never mind, Sir.”


7 posted on 05/01/2008 10:44:11 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg ("Shut the hell up, New York Times, you sanctimonious whining jerks!" - Craig Ferguson)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper

Hate it when that happens.


8 posted on 05/01/2008 10:48:01 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper

I hate it when that happens!


9 posted on 05/01/2008 10:48:05 PM PDT by Michael.SF.
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper

That better have been a malfunction, or he totaled his career.


10 posted on 05/01/2008 10:48:20 PM PDT by rmlew (Don't Blame me. I voted for Hunter.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper

Wills’ GF has moved to California?!
Dang, imagine the fuel costs...


11 posted on 05/01/2008 10:51:37 PM PDT by GnuHere
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PAR35

I believe the tower kept calling “Wheels up, wheels, up”, seems the pilot was distracted


12 posted on 05/01/2008 10:51:57 PM PDT by doc1019 (Acts 16:31, Romans 10:13 ... nuff said.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: rmlew

Yep, Mickydees is (are) always looking for a few good washed out pilots.


13 posted on 05/01/2008 10:55:37 PM PDT by doc1019 (Acts 16:31, Romans 10:13 ... nuff said.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: cardinal4

Might not come up on ILS.


14 posted on 05/01/2008 10:59:00 PM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper

15 posted on 05/01/2008 11:03:24 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper

On the History Channel I saw a clip of a WWII era training film which showed a ground crew man firing a flare to wave off a trainee who had forgotten to lower his gear. I guess the old problems are the best problems. Maybe they need that guy with the flare.


16 posted on 05/01/2008 11:06:49 PM PDT by dr_lew
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper

I bet he doesn/t get an offer from United


17 posted on 05/01/2008 11:16:41 PM PDT by Dov in Houston (The word Amnesty invokes a passion in me. Illegal immigrants are criminals. Supporters Aid & Abet)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper

“Wheels Up”. Check


18 posted on 05/01/2008 11:24:07 PM PDT by taxesareforever (We'll never forget Matt Maupin and his service to our country.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper
A good landing.

A good landing is one you walk away from. A great landing is when you can take off again.

19 posted on 05/01/2008 11:25:47 PM PDT by cynwoody
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Billthedrill

Well, at least it wasnt Prince William doing it. So much for the Eurofighter.


20 posted on 05/01/2008 11:28:07 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper

Are they gonna take the repairs out of his paycheck?


21 posted on 05/01/2008 11:28:50 PM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds. --Einstein)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: doc1019
seems the pilot was distracted

What do you bet it's a girl problem? Probably got a Dear John letter, or opened his credit card bill, just before take off.

22 posted on 05/01/2008 11:55:19 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: cynwoody

He tied the world record for low altitude flying.


23 posted on 05/01/2008 11:57:16 PM PDT by aviator (Armored Pest Control)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper
"Everything points to the pilot forgetting to lower the wheels, which does happen from time to time," an RAF insider said.

After taking the aircraft design back to the drawing board, changes were made to ensure that such incidents don't happen again.


24 posted on 05/02/2008 12:07:23 AM PDT by Polybius
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dr_lew

Where was the Wheel watch?
I spent many an hour out at the end of the runway with binocs and a radio.


25 posted on 05/02/2008 12:09:40 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper
""Everything points to the pilot forgetting to lower the wheels, which does happen from time to time," an RAF insider said."

WTF?

Alright then, Carry on then chaps! Hip hip and all that rot.

I think there's a suttle clue in that statement that tells us the reason WHY that happens from time to time in the RAF

26 posted on 05/02/2008 12:11:24 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Comment #27 Removed by Moderator

To: DoughtyOne
Similar incident...

At about 10 p.m. local time on May 8, 2006, a 7th Bomb Wing B-1B Lancer (Tail Number 86132 - called "Oh! Hard Luck") based at Dyess AFB, Texas, made a wheels-up belly landing on runway 31 at Diego Garcia, skidding 7,500 feet down the runway. The aircraft was landing at the end of an 11 hour  ferry mission that started at Andersen AFB, Guam.  During the landing, the B-1B caught fire and emergency crews extinguished the flames.  The four-person aircrew escaped from the plane through the overhead escape hatch. The aircraft was finally removed from the runway 4 days later.  The Air Force Accident Investigation, released 18 Septemeber 2006, concluded the pilots forgot to lower the landing gear.  The USAF estimated the damage to the B-1B at $7.9 million, and the damage to the runway at $14,025.  RBRM and those old SEABEES made one tough runway, that's for sure!  For those of you who've never seen a $285,000,000.00 bomber on the deck, here she is!  And at the bottom is a picture of what $7.9 million in repairs and a year of work can accomplish!






http://www.zianet.com/tedmorris/dg/bombers4.html
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/military/read.main/46228/


28 posted on 05/02/2008 12:16:51 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain is a poison pill. Accept it! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2006492/posts)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper
Again? You'd have thought he'd have learned from doing the same thing yesterday.
29 posted on 05/02/2008 12:57:04 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Do we really want Huma answering the White House phone at 3 AM?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: arderkrag

You have no clue about MI do you?


30 posted on 05/02/2008 12:59:55 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Do we really want Huma answering the White House phone at 3 AM?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: dr_lew
Man...now all we need is this guy (or his cousin, since he's toast) as lead bomb inspector and we'll have a dream team.
31 posted on 05/02/2008 1:44:32 AM PDT by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: ASA Vet

Actually, yeh, I do. I come from a miltiary family, and have a ton of friends in the service. Some of the stories they tell keep me saying prayers for the future of our country. You may have heard the story a few years back (first half year of occupation of Iraq) about the Marine who tried to arrest the British tanks - that’s my cousin-in-law. Seriously. He saw tanks rolling to his checkpoint, and promptly tried to stop them all by his onesies. Too bad they were the wrong side.


32 posted on 05/02/2008 1:47:29 AM PDT by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper
A Royal Air Force top gun crash-landed a new $136.3 million Typhoon fighter — apparently after forgetting to put the wheels down during a training exercise in California.

My guess is that the British will immediately implement a new system to warn pilots against this mishap in the future.

I'm guessing it's going to be this fellah's new job.

Tower: "Larry? It's Ted..."

Pilot: "Oh, right! Lowering wheels now..."

Tower: "That's great, Larry...thanks..."

33 posted on 05/02/2008 1:58:37 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper
oops

34 posted on 05/02/2008 2:24:17 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (Just Say Nobama!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ASA Vet

Same incident, different news source.


35 posted on 05/02/2008 3:24:42 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Vote for McCain but trust in the Lord)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: ASA Vet

Shut up, Miss Drescher.


36 posted on 05/02/2008 3:41:12 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper

Must have forgotten ye olde GUMPS checklist - especially the “U” part!


37 posted on 05/02/2008 4:01:58 AM PDT by jamaksin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


38 posted on 05/02/2008 4:05:06 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper
How about waiting for the board of enquiry? There is a possibility that three green lights appeared, but the nosewheel might have not deployed. US pilots on exchange with the RAF absolutely love the aircraft. The power available from the engines is simply amazing. Some snaps from the practice displays for the up and coming airshow season.


39 posted on 05/02/2008 4:36:51 AM PDT by Tommyjo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dr_lew

I am a retired USAF air traffic controller. When I worked at fighter bases the observer you were referring to, called the Runway Supervisory Officer (RSO) was still in use. They sat in a little booth at the approach end of the runway with two flare guns mounted in brackets. If a pilot came into land with his gear up they would fire a red flare. Only saw it used once in my career but it did work.
The article doesn’t mention whether or not there was an RSO on duty or if a flare was fired.


40 posted on 05/02/2008 4:43:04 AM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: zot

I wonder how much off-duty time he spends flying fixed-wheel airplanes?


41 posted on 05/02/2008 4:45:39 AM PDT by GreyFriar ( 3rd Armored Division - Spearhead)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Dr.Zoidberg
For nearly 140 million dollars, I would expect there is some variant of Bitching Betty to let him know he’s screwing up.

Yep, it's called a "prelanding checklist".......but you actually have to use it for it to be effective......

42 posted on 05/02/2008 4:52:05 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Silence is not always a Sign of Wisdom, but Babbling is ever a Mark of Folly. - B. Franklin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper

Related to this story:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2009656/posts

???


43 posted on 05/02/2008 4:58:15 AM PDT by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper

How about doing a follow up post when his new nick-name is firmed up, ok?


44 posted on 05/02/2008 5:01:23 AM PDT by Don Carlos (No 8 Do)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper

He was probably on his cellphone.


45 posted on 05/02/2008 5:08:27 AM PDT by RGSpincich
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Billthedrill

“There are two kinds of pilots in this world: Those who have... and those who will.....”


46 posted on 05/02/2008 8:31:53 AM PDT by Erasmus (Nihilism never amounted to anything.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: GreyFriar
I wonder how much off-duty time he spends flying fixed-wheel airplanes?

Starting now, he will probably spend all his flying time that way.

47 posted on 05/02/2008 10:54:28 AM PDT by zot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: doc1019
I believe the tower kept calling “Wheels up, wheels, up”, seems the pilot was distracted

Or the pilot considered it an instruction, not a warning.

48 posted on 05/02/2008 5:01:40 PM PDT by PAR35
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: PAR35

ROFL!


49 posted on 05/02/2008 5:03:32 PM PDT by doc1019 (Acts 16:31, Romans 10:13 ... nuff said.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson