Skip to comments.Sun's Movement Through Milky Way... Comets Hurtling...Life Extinctions
Posted on 05/02/2008 8:53:50 AM PDT by blam
Sun's Movement Through Milky Way Regularly Sends Comets Hurtling, Coinciding With Mass Life Extinctions
A large body of scientific evidence now exists that support the hypothesis that a major asteroid or comet impact occurred in the Caribbean region at the boundary of the Cretaceous and Tertiary periods in Earth's geologic history. Such an impact is suspected to be responsible for the mass extinction of many floral and faunal species, including the large dinosaurs, that marked the end of the Cretaceous period. (Credit: Art by Don Davis / Courtesy of NASA)
ScienceDaily (May 2, 2008) The sun's movement through the Milky Way regularly sends comets hurtling into the inner solar system -- coinciding with mass life extinctions on earth, a new study claims. The study suggests a link between comet bombardment and the movement through the galaxy.
Scientists at the Cardiff Centre for Astrobiology built a computer model of our solar system's movement and found that it "bounces" up and down through the plane of the galaxy. As we pass through the densest part of the plane, gravitational forces from the surrounding giant gas and dust clouds dislodge comets from their paths. The comets plunge into the solar system, some of them colliding with the earth.
The Cardiff team found that we pass through the galactic plane every 35 to 40 million years, increasing the chances of a comet collision tenfold. Evidence from craters on Earth also suggests we suffer more collisions approximately 36 million years. Professor William Napier, of the Cardiff Centre for Astrobiology, said: "It's a beautiful match between what we see on the ground and what is expected from the galactic record."
The periods of comet bombardment also coincide with mass extinctions, such as that of the dinosaurs 65 million years ago. Our present position in the galaxy suggests we are now very close to another such period.
While the "bounce" effect may have been bad news for dinosaurs, it may also have helped life to spread. The scientists suggest the impact may have thrown debris containing micro-organisms out into space and across the universe.
Centre director Professor Chandra Wickramasinghe said: "This is a seminal paper which places the comet-life interaction on a firm basis, and shows a mechanism by which life can be dispersed on a galactic scale."
The paper, by Professor Napier and Dr Janaki Wickramasinghe, is to be published in the Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society.
Adapted from materials provided by Cardiff University, via EurekAlert!, a service of AAAS.
I know I'm being picky, but there's an implication that the impact threw debris out of our solar system, out of our galaxy, and out across the universe. That's ... ah ... impressive. Snort.
All this supposed whirling around is making me nauseous.
Munir Humayun, an associate professor in FSU’s Department of Geological Sciences and a researcher at the National High Magnetic Field Laboratory, co-authored a paper, “Partitioning of Palladium at High Pressures and Temperatures During Core Formation,” that was recently published in the peer-reviewed science journal Nature Geoscience.
The paper provides a direct challenge to the popular “late veneer hypothesis,” a theory which suggests that all of our water, as well as several so-called “iron-loving” elements, were added to the Earth late in its formation by impacts with icy comets, meteorites and other passing objects.
This is ‘science’
I’ve always suspected there are occasional mass bombardments like this, and it will be a bad day when it happens again.
Think of how fast the earth itself is rotating and you’ll puke.
Like it or not, we are all in God's hands.
Guillermo Gonzalez & Jay W Richards, The Privileged Planet: How Our Place In The Comos is Designed For Discovery
Strong on science. God more by implication.
That’s nice. Science is an illusion.
This needs to be passed on to Nancy Pelosi immediately so that legislation requiring human measures to stabilize the sun’s movement through the galaxy can be passed. The bulk of the human measures can be implemented by the wealthy countries because the poorer countries can’t afford to do it and the wealthy countries got their wealth by exploiting the poorer countries. We need to act now. The world can’t wait!
How do you tell the difference between a rotating earth and a rotating universe?
So is the way by which your sentance came to me.
“Thats nice. Science is an illusion.”
Sure it is. Go find a nuclear warhead, sit on it, and set it off. Enjoy the “illusion”.
Science is the least illusory of human endeavors. It is solely concerned with understanding how the “real world” works. Much of the rest of human activity is concerned with actively avoiding or denying those same realities.
“How do you tell the difference between a rotating earth and a rotating universe?”
I usually start with Occam’s Razor... ;-)
And how is a rotating earth simpler?
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“And how is a rotating earth simpler?”
It requires no special explanation for all the other rotating bodies that we observe, in other words a difference between them and the Earth. Obviously the Universe can’t be rotating around all of them, they spin on different axes. ;-)
I’ve been in a mass bombardment and I can tell you it’s no fun.
Thats nice. Science is an illusion.
Everything is illusion.
OK, so how is assuming that there is no difference between the earth and rotating bodies we observe less an assumption than assuming that there is a difference between the earth and the rotating bodies we observe and therefore an argument for Occam's Razor?
What about objects that aren't observed to rotate, like the moon. You assume they do rotate even though they appear not to? Where is Occam's Razor now?
Thanks Blam. To all -- this topic is getting a little ugly, but I have posted a droll joke, so...
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It's a wonder that we aren't thrown into outer space....
I prefer that old proverb (or perhaps ko’an) from India, “the universe is the dream of the Gods, and the Gods are the dream of man.” ;’)
Who knew Bill even *had* a cell phone? :’)
Heh - party like it’s 2011 - pretty funny!
I’m disappointed. 32 posts and Laz has not declared we are all going to die.
I knew it. I juuuuust knew it... sigh
Scientists at the Cardiff Centre for Astrobiology built a computer model of our solar system's movement and found that it "bounces" up and down through the plane of the galaxy. As we pass through the densest part of the plane, gravitational forces from the surrounding giant gas and dust clouds dislodge comets from their paths. The comets plunge into the solar system, some of them colliding with the earth. The Cardiff team found that we pass through the galactic plane every 35 to 40 million years, increasing the chances of a comet collision tenfold.[note: this is the same idea advocated by the late Gene Shoemaker; also, this stands as an alternative to the Nemesis model for periodicity in the impact record]
Breathe deep the gathering gloom,
Watch lights fade from every room.
Bedsitter people look back and lament,
Another day’s useless energy spent.
Impassioned lovers wrestle as one,
Lonely man cries for love and has none.
New mother picks up and suckles her son,
Senior citizens wish they were young.
Cold hearted orb that rules the night,
Removes the colours from our sight.
Red is gray and yellow white,
But we decide which is right.
And which is an illusion?
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Posted on 03/20/2008 11:43:43 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
But the moon does rotate. It’s that it’s rotation is geosynchronous with the earth. If it didn’t we’d see its other side.
“sit on it and rotate, Potsie” ?
No, you assume that it rotates because you assume that the universe does not.
The point being that the guy basing his rotating earth argument on Occam's Razor now has more assumptions in his model and therefore can't use Occam's Razor as an argument.
Off topic. The article was not about global warming or atheistic scientism.
Scientism is, by definition, atheistic.
“Days of Future Passed”. It still sounds pretty good after all these years!
Agreed, the modifier was probably unnecessary. However the article was science, (in terms of research, analysis and a theory) not scientism.
You're the one who correctly but inadvertently invoked scientism.
Thanks for the ping
“OK, so how is assuming that there is no difference between the earth and rotating bodies we observe less an assumption than assuming that there is a difference between the earth and the rotating bodies we observe and therefore an argument for Occam’s Razor?”
It wasn’t “less of an assumption”, however it was a simplifying assumption.
BTW, one of the basic precepts of all science is that there are no “special” places in the Universe where things work differently than elsewhere. It would take a lot of good evidence to overturn that one. Occams Razor also applies there.
“What about objects that aren’t observed to rotate, like the moon. You assume they do rotate even though they appear not to? Where is Occam’s Razor now?”
What do objects that don’t rotate have to do with those that do? (Another poster made the point about the Moon rotating so I’ll leave that alone.)
I made no “assumption” about non-rotating bodies rotating... I was simply speaking of the numerous rotating bodies we do observe.
“I don’t think that is correct. The moon does not rotate.”
Yes it does, as any basic astronomy text would tell you.
“If it did, we would see the other side of the moon regularly.”
No, if it DID NOT rotate we’d see the other side as it orbited the Earth. The Moon is tidally locked and rotates once per orbit, always keeping the same side facing the Earth.
I hope that cleared things up for you. If not:
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