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New Hampshire Senate: Shaheen 51% Sununu 43%
Rasmussen Reports ^ | May 02, 2008

Posted on 05/02/2008 5:05:22 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

For the third straight month, Democrat Jeanne Shaheen leads Senator John Sununu by eight percentage points in his bid for re-election.

The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of New Hampshire voters shows Shaheen attracting 51% of the vote while Sununu earns 43%. A month ago, Shaheen led 49% to 41%.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: 110th; 2008; nh2008; polls; shaheen; sununu

1 posted on 05/02/2008 5:05:23 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Kuksool; Norman Bates; LdSentinal; neverdem; ProCivitas; ...

This has held steady for months now, which is not a good sign.


2 posted on 05/02/2008 5:06:45 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Karl Marx supported free trade. Does that make him a free market conservative?)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Since it was New Hampshire that actually made the true difference in the 2000 Election, I anticipate now that there will be some event that will alter the current paradigm which allows Democrats more undeserved clout than they already hold in the Congress.

Get ready to rumble.

Something is up.

3 posted on 05/02/2008 5:10:14 PM PDT by Radix (Q. What do you call a row of rabbits walking backwards? A. A receding hare line.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Alot of freepers here sure seem intent to hand the Dems a free Senate seat in NH by re-nominating an candidate tied at the hip to Bush. Being a Bushbot is now toxic in N.H.

And of the course the irony here is that six years ago, Sununu and the NH GOP DEMANDED Bob Smith step aside because he "can't beat Shaheen"

Sununu's arrogance and rank hypocrisy here is stunning. He needs to follow his OWN advice from six years ago. He wouldn't even BE a Senator in the first place if it weren't for Bob Smith's perceived "vulnerability". He certainly wasn't elected on "hi I'm a mediocre Congressman and my daddy gave America Justice Souter"

It also amazes me that the Colorado Republican leadership get racked over the coals for freepers by failing to stop Dem advancement in their state, but guys like Sununu and Craig have been like deer-in-the-headlites during a TOTAL Dem takeover in N.H. for the last six years... and nobody wants to call them on it.

4 posted on 05/02/2008 5:11:22 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Freepers , remember when the Dems "took out Gary Condit NOW"? That seat is now safe Dem forever.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Rush says the Dems will probably have 60 seats in the Senate come election day.


5 posted on 05/02/2008 5:22:54 PM PDT by saganite
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To: saganite; Radix

60 DemocRATS in the U.S. Senate? That is a horrifying thought.


6 posted on 05/02/2008 5:25:42 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Karl Marx supported free trade. Does that make him a free market conservative?)
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To: BillyBoy

NH will ALWAYS have the problem of too many liberals, both in the GOP and the Demorat parties. Even the Indies in NH are liberals! Let’s just ignore NH henceforth as unrepresentative of the rest of the nation and be done with it. Bob Smith is, as far as I can tell, a RINO. There ARE no real conservatives in NH! NONE! At least IL, CA and TX have some real conservatives...


7 posted on 05/02/2008 5:26:06 PM PDT by levotb
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To: Clintonfatigued

60 Demorats in the U.S. Senate? If that’s what the American voters wants then let them get what they deserve.


8 posted on 05/02/2008 5:29:02 PM PDT by Russ
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To: BillyBoy

Bob did the dick stepping act, ego over brains, jumped parties and got beat, Sununnu beat Queen Jean, Spending Machine, last time around,


9 posted on 05/02/2008 5:30:04 PM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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To: levotb

I humbly disagree.


10 posted on 05/02/2008 5:46:46 PM PDT by xmission (Democrats have killed our Soldiers by rewarding the enemy for brutality)
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To: Little Bill; Clintonfatigued
>> Sununnu beat Queen Jean, Spending Machine, last time around <<

You're making the same arguement that Sununu ridiculed last time. Bob Smith was deemed "unelectable" in 2002 and he retorted that the papers declared Dick Swett a likely winner in 1996 and that he "beat liberal Dick Swett comfortably".

Sununu's responce was that 2002 was NOT 1996 and that Smith had stepped in it big time since then and was now consistantly losing in the polls.

Now it can be shown that 2008 is NOT 2002 and being a Bushbot in N.H. is no longer a positive like it was for Sununu in 2002. Just as he pointed out about Smith, Sununu is now consistantly trailing Shaheen in EVERY poll. He is much much weaker than 2002.

Sununu is the kind of guy who actually argued that giving a "path to citizenship" to illegal aliens (which Smith adamently opposed) should be considered a good policy proposal because "the President supports it". What kind of arguement is that? And then freepers have the gall to whine aobut Senators not listening to the voters and pushing for amnesty AFTER they elected a guy like Sununu.

Sununu stepped in it big time and is now a dead man walking in 2008. If he and his supporters had any honesty at all, they'd be calling for him to go because they used the EXACT same "poll" numbers to demand Smith's head on a platter. We will never win New Hampshire with a Senator who blindly decides things are a good idea simply because "the President supports it".

A principled, independant-minded conservative with no ties to Bush's boo-boos (Miers, amnesty, pre-surge Iraq strategy) who has an attractive resume and won office without running on his daddy's name could win this seat for the GOP.

11 posted on 05/02/2008 6:05:21 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Freepers , remember when the Dems "took out Gary Condit NOW"? That seat is now safe Dem forever.)
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To: Russ
If you look at the leaders that let us down.

Hastert, More deals than you can shake a stick at, he got rich.

Trent Lott, don't even go their.

Frisk, he meant well, his Prescription Drug deal rather than tell the truth it takes Capital and a Cash Flow to R & D these Drugs was a shame, not to mention his tip toeing around the gang of 14.

And now they want me to vote for McCain?

It is going to a rough couple of years boys, time to hunker down.

I am not sure a wipe out will get the RNC to pull their head out of their backside. But I am convinced we need a Vince Lombardi Moment Politically:

"Everybody stop and gather around," he said. Then he knelt down, picked up the pigskin, and said, "Let's start at the beginning. This is a football. These are the yard markers. I'm the coach. You are the players."

12 posted on 05/02/2008 6:05:28 PM PDT by taildragger (The Answer is Fred Thompson, I do not care what the question is.....)
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To: levotb
"NH will ALWAYS have the problem of too many liberals, both in the GOP and the Democrat parties. Even the Indies in NH are liberals! Let’s just ignore NH henceforth as unrepresentative of the rest of the nation and be done with it. Bob Smith is, as far as I can tell, a RINO. There ARE no real conservatives in NH! NONE! At least IL, CA and TX have some real conservatives..."
 
No offense, but, I think that you have not really been paying attention to New Hampshire politics.
 
New Hampshire it seems to me is a metaphor for the entire USA.
 
I do not think that NH should be, or even can be ignored.
 
 When it comes to national politics, it is practically a laboratory for predicting what is to come.

13 posted on 05/02/2008 6:06:34 PM PDT by Radix (Q. What do you call a row of rabbits walking backwards? A. A receding hare line.)
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To: levotb

Did you just call Bob Smith a liberal, or did you forget the “sarcasm” tag?


14 posted on 05/02/2008 6:22:10 PM PDT by rmlew (Don't Blame me. I voted for Hunter.)
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To: BillyBoy

You always do manage to appear on Sununu threads like clockwork to offer bum advice with respect to this seat. If Sununu can’t win, some nobody who hasn’t ever won statewide office ain’t either against Shaheen. How ‘bout getting with the program and championing the cause of bringing down Shamnesty Graham in SC ?


15 posted on 05/02/2008 8:02:34 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: rmlew

You do know Bob Smith endorsed John Kerry for President ? He lost his mind.


16 posted on 05/02/2008 8:03:23 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
>> If Sununu can’t win, some nobody who hasn’t ever won statewide office ain’t either against Shaheen. <<

What the hell? You need to hold statewide office to "beat Shaheen" in New Hampshire? Were you aware of this when you backed then CONGRESSMAN Sununu and his pro-amnesty platform for this seat six years?

There are PLENTY of prominent conservatives who have been elected to important offices in New Hampshire and could win statewide office. We ought to be running real candidates in this state and no more discredited hacks who main claim to fame is their daddy was Governor decades ago.

For some bizarre you reason you seem fond of using the RINO talking points that "only so-and-so party hack can WIN" on Sununu and Mel Martinez threads to justify backing pro-amnesty candidates in the past. These are REPUBLICAN states we're talking about (or, in NH's case, were Republican til he screwed it up far more than Romney ever did) Considering these states elected dozens of conservatives to statewide office in the past decade, your position is laughable. Look at Florida, they run medoicre Republicans all the time and win there. Any "R" with his name with a pulse could have won Mel Martinez's Senate seat.

What's next, "only Liddy Dole" can "win" in North Carolina I suppose? You should know better than repeat RINO talking points. Shame, shame.

>> How ‘bout getting with the program and championing the cause of bringing down Shamnesty Graham in SC ? <<

I have pointed out many times to you that if you can find a conservative with a more impressive resume in South Carolina than Graham, I will happily vote for them. The fact you simply cannot bring yourself to admit the coke-snorting Rudybot would make a WORSE Senator than Graham says more about your fanatical hatred of Graham than your desire to get a good consrevative in that seat. You'd probably back Linc Chafee over Graham at this point (and maybe tell us that "only he" can "win" in South Carolina)

Now apparently we have the "well known" Buddy Witherspoon running against Graham. I never heard of this guy in my life so I don't see him as a viable candidate. This guy has never held elected office in his life, let alone the "statewide office" demands you are seeking in New Hampshire. He won't win the primary. I heard Mark McBride is running, now there's an example of an REAL, viable candidate who would make a pretty good Senator. He's the ex-Mayor of Myrtle Beach and already ran for Senator against Romney-loving Jim DeMint. I would consider supporting McBride in the primary. Is he on the ballot?

All in all I concern myself more with keeping RATs like Shaheen from taking over Republican seats, than I do with whether a seat we currently hold has a Senator that agrees with me 90% of the time (Graham) or 95% of the time (McBride). I would like to get a good conservative elected in New Hampshire, rather award that communist Shaheen a free seat.

I do find it amusing that you rant and rave about Graham supporting amnesty, but backing George W. Bush bobblehead amnesty-saluting Martinez and Sununu for office on the premise that "only they" could "win". You want to know why that nasty amnesty bill came up in the Senate? Look in the mirror.

17 posted on 05/02/2008 8:56:11 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Freepers , remember when the Dems "took out Gary Condit NOW"? That seat is now safe Dem forever.)
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To: BillyBoy
"What the hell? You need to hold statewide office to "beat Shaheen" in New Hampshire? Were you aware of this when you backed then CONGRESSMAN Sununu and his pro-amnesty platform for this seat six years?"

Statewide or federal. Somebody whom has actually won an election. This isn't 2002. You're not going to be able to #1, beat Sununu in a primary, and #2, beat Shaheen with this person. Bob Smith was damaged in 2002 and there was a national interest in keeping this seat in the GOP column and retaking the majority. Sununu ain't that damaged and even if he was, there's nobody waiting in the wings to primary him.

"There are PLENTY of prominent conservatives who have been elected to important offices in New Hampshire and could win statewide office. We ought to be running real candidates in this state and no more discredited hacks who main claim to fame is their daddy was Governor decades ago."

OK, so then you have no problem replacing both Sununu with Shaheen and Judd Gregg (whose daddy was also Gov decades ago) with the current rodent Governor. That's what you're gonna get. NH 2008 ain't NH 1988 or 1978. The place has changed, and not for the better.

"For some bizarre you reason you seem fond of using the RINO talking points that "only so-and-so party hack can WIN" on Sununu and Mel Martinez threads to justify backing pro-amnesty candidates in the past."

Forget it. I didn't knowingly or willingly back Shamnesty candidates.

"These are REPUBLICAN states we're talking about (or, in NH's case, were Republican til he screwed it up far more than Romney ever did)"

Who is "he" ? There's no #1 figure to blame in NH for our most recent decline, save perhaps for Gov. Benson in '04. We had no Governor to point the finger at in '06.

"Considering these states elected dozens of conservatives to statewide office in the past decade, your position is laughable. Look at Florida, they run medoicre Republicans all the time and win there. Any "R" with his name with a pulse could have won Mel Martinez's Senate seat."

That's a ludicrous and false claim on its face, and you know it. Martinez is the only Republican to win a Senate race in FL since after 1994. "Mediocre" Republicans like McCollum and KH couldn't win (or Crist in '98). As it was, Martinez only BARELY won, and had McCollum been nominated again, Betty Castor would be the junior Senator today.

"What's next, "only Liddy Dole" can "win" in North Carolina I suppose? You should know better than repeat RINO talking points. Shame, shame."

You do understand the peril in not-so-solid GOP states of deposing incumbents in primaries, leaving the challengers with little resources and the Dems with a "leg up" in winning in November, don't you ? Maybe not. Whom is this "magical Republican" that is going to beat Dole in the primary ?

"I have pointed out many times to you that if you can find a conservative with a more impressive resume in South Carolina than Graham, I will happily vote for them."

You go off like crazy on all these other guys, but to you, butter won't melt in Graham's mouth. Truly bizarre. Almost any Republican with a pulse in that state is better than this asshat.

"The fact you simply cannot bring yourself to admit the coke-snorting Rudybot would make a WORSE Senator than Graham says more about your fanatical hatred of Graham than your desire to get a good consrevative in that seat."

A coked-up Ravenel would make a better Senator than Graham, and that is saying something. Graham has been an embarrassment for a long time. You know it, I know it, and every FReeper knows it.

"You'd probably back Linc Chafee over Graham at this point (and maybe tell us that "only he" can "win" in South Carolina)"

You're getting hysterical, Billy. I don't know what mystical hold Graham has over you. You gotta break the habit.

"Now apparently we have the "well known" Buddy Witherspoon running against Graham. I never heard of this guy in my life so I don't see him as a viable candidate. This guy has never held elected office in his life, let alone the "statewide office" demands you are seeking in New Hampshire. He won't win the primary. I heard Mark McBride is running, now there's an example of an REAL, viable candidate who would make a pretty good Senator. He's the ex-Mayor of Myrtle Beach and already ran for Senator against Romney-loving Jim DeMint. I would consider supporting McBride in the primary. Is he on the ballot?"

McBride has apparently qualified to run as an Independent. If Witherspoon fails to get the nomination, I'd endorse McBride for the general.

"All in all I concern myself more with keeping RATs like Shaheen from taking over Republican seats, than I do with whether a seat we currently hold has a Senator that agrees with me 90% of the time (Graham) or 95% of the time (McBride). I would like to get a good conservative elected in New Hampshire, rather award that communist Shaheen a free seat."

I don't agree with Graham 90% of the time, and if they screw our nation on national security, it doesn't matter if they're right on the other 90%, because the 10% is a complete sell-out. He needs to go.

"I do find it amusing that you rant and rave about Graham supporting amnesty, but backing George W. Bush bobblehead amnesty-saluting Martinez and Sununu for office on the premise that "only they" could "win". You want to know why that nasty amnesty bill came up in the Senate? Look in the mirror."

I'm not supporting Martinez anymore. You already made it plain you wanted a candidate who would've lost to Castor in '04, and that was unacceptable. None of us knew Martinez would lose his mind and support without hesistation the criminal invading hordes. He will not have my support under any circumstances EVER again.

18 posted on 05/02/2008 9:33:13 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: taildragger

Well said...


19 posted on 05/03/2008 3:55:56 AM PDT by Russ
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To: Radix
Since it was New Hampshire that actually made the true difference in the 2000 Election

What?

20 posted on 05/03/2008 5:10:42 AM PDT by Impy (FREE WESLEY SNIPES)
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To: Impy
"Since it was New Hampshire that actually made the true difference in the 2000 Election

What? "

 
2000 Electoral College map.
 
New Hampshire has 4 Electoral college votes.  NH went for Bush in 2000, Kerry in 2004.
 
Bush won in 2000 by exactly 4 Electoral College votes. No other state made the same kind of difference that year than New Hampshire did.
 
2004 Electoral College map
 
New Hampshire made ALL of the difference that year, despite the nonsense in Florida.

21 posted on 05/03/2008 5:50:03 PM PDT by Radix (Q. What do you call a row of rabbits walking backwards? A. A receding hare line.)
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