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French primary schools return to tables
The Times ^ | 5/1/2008 | Adam Sage

Posted on 05/02/2008 11:16:13 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

French primary school children will be learning multiplication tables by rote and conjugating verbs in the pluperfect tense under a back-to-basics programme to be introduced after the summer holidays.

Critics denouced Xavier Darcos, the Education Minister who developed the plan, as old-fashioned, out-of-touch and reactionary, and unions called for a strike over the reform.

He responded by saying: “It's not by listening to a great pianist for hours on end that you become one, it's by doing your scales.”

The programme is an attempt to prioritise French and mathematics on a primary school curriculum that has been loaded with subjects such as the history of cinema and discovery of the world.

Teachers have been told to provide ten hours of French lessons a week to six and seven-year-olds and eight hours to eight to ten-year-olds.

All primary school children will be taught five hours of mathematics a week.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: education; france; matheducation; mathematics

1 posted on 05/02/2008 11:16:13 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman

Praise the Lord! I think this is a great idea. I learned the times tables when I was in school. If it was good enough for me, it is good enough for kida today.


2 posted on 05/02/2008 11:20:15 PM PDT by kevinw
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To: bruinbirdman

What on earth??? The french were not learning their multiplication tables before?


3 posted on 05/02/2008 11:21:57 PM PDT by modest proposal (I am embarrassed for the USA that Obama has come this far. It is truly shameful.)
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To: bruinbirdman

The McGuffey reader was really good too in our countrys’ past educational curriculum....http://www.pbs.org/kcet/publicschool/evolving_classroom/books.html

It would be revolutionary to put it back in our school curriculum.....maybe some that get halfway to high school could read more effectively than the ones getting out, or close to getting out of high school, now.


4 posted on 05/02/2008 11:26:39 PM PDT by givemELL
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To: bruinbirdman

I know it sounds radical, but maybe we should try this in the USA.


5 posted on 05/02/2008 11:27:06 PM PDT by baa39
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To: bruinbirdman

>Critics denouced Xavier Darcos

I thought liberal commies only dumbed down the education in PRE-revolution countries.

I am very confused.


6 posted on 05/02/2008 11:29:33 PM PDT by ROTB (Our Constitution [is] for a [Christian] people. It is wholly inadequate [for] any other. -John Adams)
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To: bruinbirdman

So learning mathematics is reactionary? Explains the state of French Universities - not to mention their graduates.


7 posted on 05/02/2008 11:45:45 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: bruinbirdman

When I was tutoring elementary algebra, I ran into the problem time and time again of trying to teach students who don’t know their multiplication tables how to factor quadratic expressions.

I don’t think it can be done. Memorization of the multiplication tables is an essential prerequisite, as far as I’ve been able to tell.


8 posted on 05/03/2008 12:01:17 AM PDT by Ursine_East_Facing_North
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To: bruinbirdman

Hmmm. It appears that some of the French leadership sees a need to increase manufacturing there in the near future. IMO, we should be considering the same. Asian products will get pricier and more expensive to ship.


9 posted on 05/03/2008 12:04:30 AM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-'96)
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To: bruinbirdman
"...and unions called for a strike over the reform."

That doesn't make sense, BTW. Maybe service industry employees don't want to lose jobs to new production? I remember way back when, that office women complained about machinists getting more pay.


10 posted on 05/03/2008 12:07:38 AM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-'96)
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To: modest proposal
The french were not learning their multiplication tables before?

Why do you need to know math when all you do is sit at a cafe, smoke cigarettes, hate Americans and watch automobiles burn?

11 posted on 05/03/2008 12:10:07 AM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: bruinbirdman

“He responded by saying: “It’s not by listening to a great pianist for hours on end that you become one, it’s by doing your scales.” “

No wonder the critics call him old fashioned. Doesn’t he know that it’s more important for students to have a high self-esteme; than it is for them to know how to multiply, or play music? /s


12 posted on 05/03/2008 12:34:25 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: bruinbirdman
Teacher unions and their supports are left wing lame brains who should be taken out behind the schools and shot - on both sides of the Atlantic!
13 posted on 05/03/2008 12:51:06 AM PDT by Herakles (Diversity is code word for anti-white racism)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Now wait a minute, we all know 2 + 2 = 5.


14 posted on 05/03/2008 1:12:03 AM PDT by flaglady47 (Hey Obama, to quote your Preacher man, your "chickens have come home to roost")
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To: flaglady47

It makes no difference if 2 + 2 = 5, or any other answer, so long as I feel good about the answer /s/


15 posted on 05/03/2008 4:07:38 AM PDT by RLM
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To: modest proposal

Many American students are not learning the multiplication tables (or the addition facts) either. This goes back at least to the 1980’s.

I love the part where the unions are going to strike. This suggests the teachers don’t know the multiplication facts or verb conjugations, either!


16 posted on 05/03/2008 4:37:17 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Es cual rosa que floresce entre cardos de un jardin. Es doncella, virgen pura, del lingaje de David.)
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To: bruinbirdman

imagine unions going on strike over teaching times tables and grammar!


17 posted on 05/03/2008 4:56:14 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Tax-chick

How does one do any math without knowing multiplication tables?


18 posted on 05/03/2008 6:04:59 AM PDT by August West (To each according to his ability, from each according to his need...)
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To: August West

Now in French!

19 posted on 05/03/2008 6:10:48 AM PDT by Cvengr (Fear sees the problem emotion never solves. Faith sees & accepts the solution, problem solved.)
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To: baa39
I know it sounds radical, but maybe we should try this in the USA.

Are you seriously proposing that the public schools actually teach something useful?

20 posted on 05/03/2008 7:35:15 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: August West

Very badly! But for such as they actually do, they use calculators.


21 posted on 05/03/2008 8:29:09 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Es cual rosa que floresce entre cardos de un jardin. Es doncella, virgen pura, del lingaje de David.)
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To: varon

Varon,
Well as long as we don’t upset the NEA. A bit of math, spelling, reading, geography and history might be OK, but only if it does not interfere with sex ed, multicultural awareness, anti-smoking campaigns, gay rights, personal hygiene, evolution and global warming (aka “science”), and those special presentations that help you figure out if your parents are alcoholics so you can report them to CPS.


22 posted on 05/03/2008 12:50:29 PM PDT by baa39
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