Posted on 05/04/2008 7:09:02 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
Imagine that a "documentary" film-maker—whose most notable former credit is a film advancing the notion that extra-terrestrials did indeed visit Area 51—brought forth a new work suggesting that key elements of the Prophet Mohammed's story had been fabricated. What are the odds ABC would devote a segment of Good Morning America to a respectful interview of the filmmaker and discussion of his work?
But that's exactly what ABC did regarding someone who has produced a documentary ["Bloodline"] calling into question key aspects of the story of Jesus Christ. Here's how GMA weekend co-anchor Bill Weir introduced the segment this morning:
Well, here's a question, was Jesus married with children? Was the Resurrection a trick pulled off by his widow? The possibility, the world's greatest cover-up, was the basis of the smash novel and movie The Da Vinci Code. And though those ideas have been largely dismissed by academics as fiction, documentary film-maker Bruce Burgess believes he has now found evidence to advance that theory. Here's a clip from his new film.
View video here.
(Excerpt) Read more at newsbusters.org ...
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I’d be grateful if people would ping to appropriate Christian lists.
Reality should be able to stand up to inquiry.
The resurrection was faked.
The battleship “USS Maine” was sunk by the U.S.
The Federal government “allowed” the Lincoln assasination.
Oswald was a patsy.
The Roswall crash was aliens.
No plane hit the Pentagon and the Twin Towers was a controlled demolition.
Gee, did I miss any? Where’s my book contract and where do I sign?
we walk by faith, not by sight; therefore, there’s always an alternate explanation, or two or three...
I absolutely agree. But is Bruce Burgess a serious questioner or a cheap sensationalist?
And again, I ask, would ABC air a similar segment about Islam, even by a serious documentary-maker, let alone one with Burgess’s background?
Yes it should, and Islam should also be publicly questioned as "inquiry." But noooooooooo.....and that is the point of the article. There is an enormous bias against Christianity in the media and in the government.
Fortunately for Chrisitianity, these attacks are typically weak and lacking in supporting evidence and usually rest on a severe twisting of history, such as Dan Brown's books.
War has been declared by liberals against Western Civilization. Christianity became the dominant religion in the West, and for that reason alone, it is targeted for extinction. Islam is at war with Christianity, so for that reason alone it will be coddled. Of course, the fact that Muslims tend to kill anyone who insults them also helps in obtaining liberal deference.
I think most know the answer to that, Mark. Islam is off limits; 1) It's today's boutique religion among the left, 2) It's dangerous to question Islam. So, no, Islam will not be scrutinized anytime soon.
I don't believe 'fortune' has anything to do with it. Christianity is a religion of faith. Nothing yet has been able to penetrate what the Bible has claimed, and it's doubtful anything will. After all, what we have is man's opinion, not fact.
Christianity has, and will, stand on its own merits. One either receives the Holy Spirit, one one doesn't. Those who don't will always question and criticize, but it means nothing.
“Reality should be able to stand up to inquiry.”
“Inquiry”? Man you got a low threshold for THAT definition.
(And I request some html-savvy FReeper post this pic.)
Exactly, why not show that film that the Dutch filmaker made about what the Koran states alongside scenes of the incredible violence that the practitioners of the religion of peace engage in?
I’ve forgotten the name of it, but a UK hosting company had to pull it from it’s servers due to death threats made against it’s employees.
The media has little interest in conspiracies involving the Clintons.
I agree. I used the word "fortunately" because these modern attacks are so pathetically lacking in any credibility.
And, although I agree that Faith is important to Christianity, it is also well supported by Reason, as shown by the eloquent apologetics of G.K. Chesterton, C.S. Lewis, and Francis Schaeffer. God wants your heart and your mind.
Fitna, let’s see ABC air Fitna, they won’t of course, because Christians are more then willing to put up with this stuff, even to the point of going to Disney Theme parks when they own ABC, Christians cannot even muster the indignation to say no to Mickey Mouse, the parent company of ABC, so why would ABC think that such tripe would cost them even dollars let alone public scorn?
ABC = Anything But Credibility
You can add basically everything that Rev Wright preaches about. AIDS being designed to kill only minorities is just a start.
Lewis Chesterson Tolkein etc etc.
The idea that somehow Christians are mind numbed robots with no ability to reason or even question is absurd, and stereo typical of the Left’s view of our Faith.
The sad thing is, the more they accuse Christians of that, the more they become the very thing that the they are saying Christians are?
What next “Was Jesus abducted by Aliens in a Occultic Conspiracy we turn to documentary maker...”
This has only been talked about for 2000 years but it’s “News” to ABC. What else are they missing?
That would explain the disappearance of his body from the Tomb. The Aliens then brought him back to life and beamed him back down to Earth to fool the Apostles that He had been resurrected. Yes, its all becoming quite clear now.....Christianity is a plot by Aliens to take over the world. Film at 11.....
Yeah, you missed the 'fake' moon landing in 1969.
WEIR: I do have to point out the fact that some of your other documentary work includes the Bermuda Triangle, Area 51, looking for Big Foot in Oklahoma. Why should we believe you of all people when it comes to something this huge?
He reminds me of Michael Moore
“...Christianity is a plot by Aliens to take over the world. Film at 11...”
Hmm..you could work for ABC, now if you follow that up with a story about a Retired Catholic Priest who molested boys in 1985, you could work for NBC as well...
I missed that one completely. Good catch.
And FDR didn’t know about Pearl Harbor before the attack, The American oligarchs never met at Jeckyl Island to take over our currency, The trusts that T. Roosevelt busted up never existed, the CIA’s Air America never smuggled heroin, no one has considered using RFID to track humans, etc.
Sleepy Americans will impugn conspiracy at their peril.
Yeah. That's what THEY want us to believe...
The MSM just gets tackier and tackier!
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“Bruce Burgess believes he has now found evidence to advance that theory.”
Looks like he found that evidence in the back of the refrigerator.
The first question should be: Obviously you are too stupid to feed yourself properly so why do you think people will take you seriously about Christ?
Just remember before you get too sleepy to check under your bed at night.
What Islam Isn’t
By Dr. Peter Hammond
FrontPageMagazine.com | Monday, April 21, 2008
The following is adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat:
Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.
Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components.
Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called ‘religious rights.’
When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to ‘the reasonable’ Muslim demands for their ‘religious rights,’ they also get the other components under the table. Here’s how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).
As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:
United States — Muslim 1.0%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1%-2%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%
At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:
Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%
From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.
They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. ( United States ).
France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — Muslim 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad &Tobago — Muslim 5.8%
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris —car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats ( Amsterdam - Mohammed cartoons).
Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 10-15%
After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:
Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%
At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:
Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%
From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:
Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%
After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:
Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%
100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:
Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 99.9%
Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.
‘Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel. – Leon Uris, ‘The Haj’
It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France, the Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity. Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate.
Right, because what have the Muslims nations done since they converted to Islam? Nothing, all their interesting accomplishments in Math, Science and astronomy occurred before they converted to Islam. Western Europe began to advance when they started to prove the Bible, and when the Bible was found to be factually wrong, they changed the Bible and not the science. Islam has it the other way around. The Koran trumps reality.
Let this guy put out his evidence, other people will counter that evidence and whatever makes the most sense will be considered true.
I started watching this because I am interested in the Sistine Chapel, but about five minutes in I realized it was another anti-Catholic rant and switched over to a hockey game.
Don’t they ever get tired of this stuff?
He needs step away from the computer and remote.
Thank you for posting those quotes and statistics. It can’t be repeated enough times.
What passages of the Bible were changed as a result of being found "factually wrong"?
What passages of the Bible were changed as a result of being found "factually wrong"?
The earth created in 6 days.
Earth Revolving around the Sun.
Woman coming from Adam’s rib.
Hmmm, interesting. I just bought a King James version of the Bible and all of the points you mentioned are still there. Is there a new revised and canonized version of the Bible that I missed somehow?
So you believe the earth was created in six days?
There is an interesting book called “Evidence Demands a Verdict”. Written by some agnostic/atheist (or something) lawyer that was out to prove the resurrection a myth. After getting into it he realized that if the idea was on trial, it would be found to be true. He became a Christian (and then wrote the book).
And to the disciples (I think He appeared to something like 500 of them total?) they did not have to rely on faith to believe the resurrection. “You have seen and believe, but how much greater will those that believe without seeing” or however that verse goes when he speaks to Thomas.
No, I do not believe a literal interpretation of the Bible is necessary to support Orthodox Christian Doctrine. Jesus spoke in parables when He wanted to emphasize certain moral points, and of course these stories are not literally true and He never intended that anyone believe they are literally true. How much of the Bible is literally true and how much is allegory, I don't know, and I don't particularly care, except for those points that might affect Doctrine.
Yes, I have heard of that book but have not read it. I did read a similar book by Les Strobel "The Case for Christ." He presents a lot of convincing evidence but, in my opinion, he didn't adequately represent the skeptics point of view. Still, it was good read and expanded my knowledge.
Historical proof is only one aspect of Reason though. Lewis and Chesterton don't dwell much on historical evidence but rather look to the complexities of mankind i.e. morality, culture, psychology, and even Reason itself, and take it from there, first to establish that something other than the material universe exists and secondly that Mankind is somehow out of sync, or at odds, with that Other.
So Science > Bible.
It depends on the nature of the inquiry.
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