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Seattle officials propose 20-cent grocery-bag fee (Jan 1, if city council approves)
The Seattle Times ^ | April 3, 2008 | Sharon Pian Chan

Posted on 05/04/2008 5:12:17 PM PDT by Stoat

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Nickels and City Council President Richard Conlin proposed a 20-cent "green fee" Wednesday on all disposable bags to encourage customers to carry their milk and eggs home in their own bags.

Forget the canvas sacks at home? Shoppers at grocery, convenience and drug stores will pay the price starting Jan. 1, if the City Council approves. A family buying six bags of groceries a week would spend $62.40 a year in bag fees. The city will issue one free reusable shopping bag to each household.

"The answer to the question 'Paper or plastic?' should be 'Neither,' " Nickels said at a news conference. "Both harm the environment. Every piece of plastic ever made is still with us in the environment, and the best way to handle waste is not to create it in the first place."

The proposed fee, the first of its kind in the nation, is the latest green legislation from a mayor intent on making environmental stewardship his legacy.

Nickels and Conlin have been working on a "zero-waste" strategy to reduce trash and encourage recycling. They also announced Wednesday a proposed ban on plastic-foam food containers and cups at food-service businesses, starting Jan. 1. Nonrecyclable plastic containers and utensils would be banned in 2010.

"It's about the use of scarce resources, about pollution of our environment, about litter in our streets and parks and the costs, both economically and environmentally, of throwing away a piece of Earth we have an opportunity to protect and preserve," Conlin said at the news conference, which Councilmembers Tim Burgess and Sally Clark also attended.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: enviroweenies; grocery; plasticbags; seattle; washington; washingtonstate
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To: mountaineer1997
I agree with the charge for plastic bags. What a waste! I have used those large Sam’s insulated bags for years, and resent the waste that the throw-away bags produce.

You're an idiot if you can't find a use for the bags.

I have two cats, and their box is cleaned out three times a day.

I bet you're the type who buys the expensive cinch-tie white plastic mega-bags!

If you are not, there is a box in most stores to recycle your bags.

Leave the rest of us alone!!!

21 posted on 05/04/2008 5:30:56 PM PDT by paulat (I'd rather spend my vote on someone who CAN ACTUALLY BE ELECTED)
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To: Stoat
obviously the same dogooder that feels they have the right to tell someone not to smoke ... while undoubtedly they inject with botox.

Same people who want this poor Bitter, God Lovin, Magic negroe despising, good ole boy to give up his guns and F-350 pick-up cause we ain't inthe same elite intellectual club they have self elevated their worthless selves to.

I bet this individual is soooo concerned that they press for a helmet las for those of us who enjoy our scooters.

dirtbags.... no other word for them

22 posted on 05/04/2008 5:31:41 PM PDT by HiramQuick (work harder ... welfare recipients depend on you!)
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To: Stoat

Do you get a discount if you use hemp bags?


23 posted on 05/04/2008 5:32:03 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mountaineer1997

I use canvas bags that I’ve gatherred over the years, not so much to prevent waste but because they’re so strong I’ve never had one break. Intetrestingly, the box-boy always asks, “Paper or plastic?”. This, despite the pile of folded and empty canvas bags on the counter. And my usual response is, “Canvas”, as I point to the bags he’s missed.


24 posted on 05/04/2008 5:34:47 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: rockrr
Do you suppose they lie awake at night scheming to bring shame on the once great state of Washington?

We are now more officially "left" than even New York City or San Francisco. They can't conceivably bring any more shame onto us than they already have, over the last two full decades of unending public mortification.

25 posted on 05/04/2008 5:36:37 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: All
I want my groceries in a box. After all they are Boxboys who are helping the clerk.
26 posted on 05/04/2008 5:36:45 PM PDT by troy McClure
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27 posted on 05/04/2008 5:39:09 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: Stoat

Wasn’t it the enviro-wackos who made us switch to plastic bags some 20 years ago? What’s the problem, now?


28 posted on 05/04/2008 5:49:35 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Fast Moving Angel

Thank you for injecting that bit of reason! :~)


29 posted on 05/04/2008 5:52:03 PM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (I'd rather be single than wish I was.)
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To: mountaineer1997

Ditto...I hate it when my wife comes home from Kroger or WalMart with 8-10 bags that we have to throw away.

WHOLE FOODS gives 5 -10 cents per bag credit if you bring in any bag - even bags from Kroger.

I HATE WASTE OF ANY KIND.

But, I dont like govt getting this involved. I think more stores should follow Whole Foods’ lead on this...


30 posted on 05/04/2008 5:52:05 PM PDT by Former MSM Viewer ("We will hunt the terrorists in every dark corner of the earth. We will be relentless." W 2001)
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To: rabidralph
Wasn’t it the enviro-wackos who made us switch to plastic bags some 20 years ago? What’s the problem, now?

I was in Taiwan, where they instituted a per bag charge (about 3 cents per).

One difference was they stopped putting everything you buy into a bag (for instance a bag of potato chips at 7/11).

Cuts down on a lot of garbage with just that.

31 posted on 05/04/2008 5:53:27 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Stoat
Wasn't it not so long ago that we were to be taxed for using paper bags?

Whether it's paper bags or political correctness in a larger sense, we need to quit buying into the premise until these folks at least propose a sensible alternative that they won't change in a years' time. Just because they seem to enjoy chasing their tails (many of them literally) doesn't mean I have to join them.


32 posted on 05/04/2008 5:54:15 PM PDT by ProfoundMan (See my profile for hundreds of little freeper pics!)
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To: Stoat

I use my own bags a lot. I don’t use bottled water most of the time. I have a water filter squeeze bottle and two Culligan jugs I can refill at Walmart. I also compost. However, there’s no recycling where I live so I try to buy more glass than plastic. I think a person can be smart about green living. People don’t like to be TOLD what to do.

Besides, the plastic bags are recycled as liners for my juice machine then I use that same bag to clean out the catbox, never in reverse ;o) I usually pick extra plastic bags out of the plastic bag recycling bin at Walmart.


33 posted on 05/04/2008 5:56:19 PM PDT by cyborg (Living strong for my mother and my residents since March 12,2008)
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To: Stoat

canvas bags... great for shoplifters!


34 posted on 05/04/2008 5:56:50 PM PDT by steveo (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

I was thinking the very same thing.


35 posted on 05/04/2008 5:58:57 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: Fast Moving Angel
The government has no businsss dictating this issue. The cost of bags is factored into the cost of goods charged by the stores. If the stores want to ‘’give’’ away bags with their groceries, it’s their business.

I'm already paying for them as part of the price of the groceries.  Will they now start demanding that grocery stores charge for parking in the lot at the store, so that the city can add a a tax to the parking fee 'to discourage this horrible business of driving to the grocery store'?

36 posted on 05/04/2008 5:59:08 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: pnh102

You’ll make up the cost of the bags in gasoline in short order.

Gas is well over $4.00 a gallon here in LA.


37 posted on 05/04/2008 6:00:05 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: paulat

I don’t even buy trash bags anymore. I use the paper and plastic bags I get when I shop.


38 posted on 05/04/2008 6:00:23 PM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (I'd rather be single than wish I was.)
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To: pnh102

I don’t think that will satisfy them. They’ll want more concessions than even that.


39 posted on 05/04/2008 6:01:26 PM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (I'd rather be single than wish I was.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Every piece of plastic ever made is still with us in the environment..."

Stupidity on parade.

Or Socialism on parade; same thing  :-)

40 posted on 05/04/2008 6:02:56 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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