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Endless War
The NY Times ^ | May 4, 2008 | DAVID MARGOLICK

Posted on 05/04/2008 6:59:10 PM PDT by forkinsocket

It was not one of the celebrated moments of what the Israelis call the War of Independence and the Palestinians call Al Nakba, the Catastrophe. But it is one of the more arresting ones.

In late August 1948, during a United Nations-sanctioned truce, Israeli soldiers conducting what they called Mivtza Nikayon — Operation Cleaning — encountered some Palestinian refugees just north of the Egyptian lines. The Palestinians had returned to their village, now in Israeli hands, because their animals were there, and because there were crops to harvest and because they were hungry. But to the Israelis, they were potential fighters, or fifth columnists in the brand new Jewish state. The Israelis killed them, then burned their homes.

As much as in any other scene in this meticulous, disturbing and frustrating book, the ineffable tragedy of Israelis and Palestinians resides in that brutal, heartbreaking image. On the one hand, the Jews were fighting for a safe haven three years after six million of them had been murdered. Undoubtedly some of those soldiers on patrol that day were survivors themselves, who’d lost their entire families in Europe and been handed rifles after washing ashore in Haifa or Tel Aviv.

And then there were the Palestinians, who had watched in horror over the past 75 years as these aliens first trickled, then poured, into their homeland. Were he an Arab leader, David Ben-Gurion once confessed to the Zionist official Nahum Goldmann, he, too, would wage perpetual war with Israel. “Sure, God promised it to us, but what does that matter to them?” he asked. “There has been anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They only see one thing: We have come here and stolen their country.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: book; israel; middleeast; palestinians
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1 posted on 05/04/2008 6:59:10 PM PDT by forkinsocket
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To: forkinsocket

Hang end there guys....its worth fighting for...


2 posted on 05/04/2008 7:00:23 PM PDT by homeguard ((Charlie Don't Surf!))
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To: forkinsocket
The Jews were the original inhabitants of the country. They did not steal anything. There has never been an Arab state in the Land Of Israel during its entire history. Not one.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

3 posted on 05/04/2008 7:08:54 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: forkinsocket
Palestinians have been killing Jewish women and children for about 60 years now. But, see, back in 1948, there were these Israeli soldiers, and well ... let's just state that there's evil on both sides, but mostly the fault belongs to the Joooooooooos!

I hate the NYT.

4 posted on 05/04/2008 7:10:53 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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To: forkinsocket

If it’s from the NYT it’s probably propaganda. This author is not very generous towards Israelis. I’m sure that was his original aim.


5 posted on 05/04/2008 7:12:13 PM PDT by TheThinker (Capitalism is the natural result of a democratic government.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
There would have been no Nakba had all had the Palestinians accepted Partition in 1948. They were the ones who rejected the 1947 UN decision and even today they show no interest whatsoever in statehood.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

6 posted on 05/04/2008 7:17:27 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: forkinsocket

I didn’t read it all but I didn’t see any names, not of people or units or towns. No details other than the Israelis killed palistinians out of hand because they are evil jews. What tripe. Even if true, which I seriously doubt, I guess muslims can kill jews but jews are supposed to just take it in the shorts huh?


7 posted on 05/04/2008 7:19:46 PM PDT by calex59
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To: forkinsocket

I’d like to read the NYT synopsis of the American Revolution. Actually, I wouldn’t, but here’s how it would go: “Given slavery and the racism it engendered, given the near anihilation of the aborginal population, given the jingoism and imperialism of the 19th and 20th Centuries, given McCarthyism and Cold War hysteria, given brutalization and degradation of women, given the indifference to the AIDS epidemic and the gays who suffered from it, given the phony ‘War on Terror’ and the torture and abuse it spawned, given the environmental destruction that has brought us to the brink of the Apocalypse, given all these things one must ask: was the Revolution worth it?”


8 posted on 05/04/2008 7:24:15 PM PDT by pawdoggie
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>>>the Palestinians, who had watched in horror over the past 75 years as these aliens first trickled, then poured, into their homeland.<<<

Only the NYT could call Jews "aliens" with a straight face and get away with it....

Oh wait, their circulation is down 17% and they are laying off editorial staff for the first time....

9 posted on 05/04/2008 7:46:44 PM PDT by HardStarboard (Take No Prisoners - We're Out Of Qurans)
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To: forkinsocket
Simple question - what's "theirs" about it?

Now, apply to a current Israeli.

10 posted on 05/04/2008 9:08:39 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: JasonC

once owned Jews, then by Philistines, then by Jews, then by the Romans, then by Christians, then by Muslims, then by politicians, then by the New York Times. I’d give it to Hilary.
Acelt.


11 posted on 05/04/2008 10:04:07 PM PDT by ACelt
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"Muslims"? So Turks and Arabs are all one big happy family now? And Britain didn't drive out the one, in alliance with the other?

When the Palestinians demand the land we returned to the *Turks*, and give back all of Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria, and Iraq at the same time, then they can start talking about things once owned by people. *Arabs* haven't controlled Palestine in about 800 years.

12 posted on 05/05/2008 4:46:23 PM PDT by JasonC
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