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Miley Cyrus and the Ongoing Sexualization of Girls
North Star Writers Group ^ | May 5, 2008 | Jessica Vozel

Posted on 05/05/2008 5:16:13 AM PDT by Invisigoth

This week, tween star Miley Cyrus shocked America when she crossed over to the dark side of adulthood. When Vanity Fair released photos of 15-year-old Miley draped in a sheet, concerned parents and Disney execs were aghast that their sugary pop idol had become a sexualized young woman.

Parents told reporters that they were no longer going to let their daughters watch Hannah Montana, Miley’s Disney-produced television show-turned-musical-act-turned-brand-phenomenon. Internet message boards, populated mostly by furious mothers, advocated for a massive Hannah Montana paraphernalia bonfire. There are rumblings that Disney might even replace Miley with her up-and-coming co-star, Serena Gomez. Miley insisted in a statement that the photos were meant to be “artistic” but was sure to cover-up (no pun intended) for her mistake by saying that she was “so embarrassed” once she saw the sexual nature of the finished photographs.

I have to wonder though, why all of this uproar now? Why Miley? It is troublesome that Miley’s career should take a hit when the problem goes much, much deeper than one girl posing for one magazine in a marginally sexual way. She’s become an unwilling scapegoat for a problem that can’t be fixed by an outraged bonfire or a cast replacement.

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KEYWORDS: culture; girls; homosexualagenda; miley; sex
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1 posted on 05/05/2008 5:16:13 AM PDT by Invisigoth
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To: Invisigoth

Had it been a regular guy, not Vanity Fair, taking the photos, they would have been picked up for child porn.


2 posted on 05/05/2008 5:20:24 AM PDT by captjanaway
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To: Invisigoth
LOL! Even before I read her bio, I knew this woman didn't have children, with howlers like this in the column:

Our children must be exposed to sex in a regimented, controlled way, if they are exposed to it at all.

I'm dyin' here!

3 posted on 05/05/2008 5:22:38 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Curtis Blackwood for State Rep! Jeff Gerber for County Commissioner! Vote early and often!)
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To: Invisigoth

The reason people are upset about Miley Cyrus is that they expected, just this once, that Team Rat would play it straight, and not sexually exploit one of their child stars. It is like Lucy asking Charlie Brown to kick the football. Maybe this time, she won’t pull it away.

Team Rat does this every time. They are going to do it every time. It is what they are.


4 posted on 05/05/2008 5:23:08 AM PDT by gridlock (Proud McCain Supporter since February 8, 2008.)
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To: Invisigoth
I have to wonder though, why all of this uproar now? Why Miley?

Anyone who watches South Park already knows the answer to this.
it has something to do with harvest rituals . . . .

5 posted on 05/05/2008 5:23:43 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Tony Stark makes you feel he's a cool exec with a heart of steel . . .)
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To: Invisigoth
She is only fifteen. The photos were inappropriate. I thought these types of photos of kids were illegal. Miley is one the way to becoming another Spears.
6 posted on 05/05/2008 5:25:05 AM PDT by Jane Austen (Boycott the Bahamas!)
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To: Invisigoth

This article is a little too feminist for my liking. Why not blame Miley? Is it really the culture’s fault? Where were her parents? Is pornography/promiscuity really a stage young girls go through, but it was just made public? REALLY? Are they really surprised, given the photographer chosen? Or maybe it’s just Bush’s fault...

Blame blame blame. How about a little personal responsibility for a really bad decision? Miley and her parents should have known better. I would NEVER have let my 15 year old pose for something like that, NEVER.


7 posted on 05/05/2008 5:26:23 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Invisigoth

This is just the next step. Her *style* of dress may be fashionable for young teens but, you knew where she was headed.


8 posted on 05/05/2008 5:27:11 AM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: bboop

You would think that when the photographer suggested Miley take her underwear off, some kind of internal alarm would go off. But then, show-biz people are not quite like us.


9 posted on 05/05/2008 5:28:58 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Curtis Blackwood for State Rep! Jeff Gerber for County Commissioner! Vote early and often!)
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To: Invisigoth

Miley will always be Hannah Montana. However, they are now rolling her out as a young woman who will soon be legally mature enough to be exploited as an adult. The exploitation won’t end with her turning 18 years old. All you have to do is look at Britney Spears’ “journey” to know that it’s just the beginning of Miley’s long personal nightmare. Speaking of Britney, could this whole thing with Miley be (hmmm...Britney...Miley...it’s sort of rhymes, doesn’t it?) about the “scheduling” of replacements for the Parises, Lindsey’s and the like? The entertainment industry needs to build on the new generation of stellar social piglets, do they not?


10 posted on 05/05/2008 5:31:59 AM PDT by equaviator ("There's a plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: bboop

of course we have to blame miley and her parents. It is her parents job to raise her to NOT be taken in by the culture. the culture is base, there’s no way around it. good moral parenting is made harder because of it, but it can be done. my 13 yo [never really a hannah montana fan] sent me the link to the story with the comment “look, another slut...”


11 posted on 05/05/2008 5:32:31 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Invisigoth
I purposely forced myself to watch five minutes of Hannah Montana. How amusing is this wonderfully conceived show for young teens. They even scripted in a friendly homosexual.

Parents: if it takes throwing the television set out the window do it.

12 posted on 05/05/2008 5:35:27 AM PDT by fweingart (It doesn't matter who you vote for, the government always gets in!)
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To: xsmommy
“look, another slut...”

Coincidently enough, that's also the subject line on what most of what my buds email me...

13 posted on 05/05/2008 5:35:45 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Tax-chick

You mean the gang of kids hanging out behind the garage are not necessarily in agreement with this?


14 posted on 05/05/2008 5:41:19 AM PDT by proxy_user
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To: xsmommy

“...my 13 yo [never really a hannah montana fan] sent me the link to the story with the comment “look, another slut...””

It’s none of my business but...did you admonish your 13-year old for using the “s-word” when referring to another underage girl?


15 posted on 05/05/2008 5:42:23 AM PDT by equaviator ("There's a plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: Invisigoth

I dont understand the people here who are trying to paint this as if this was the Disney company’s decision in a predetermined destiny that all Disney child stars go through and that Disney somehow had something to do with this. I just don’t buy that, I don’t believe that the Disney executives knew that the photographer was going to do this.

I recognize that the cross over to adult work involves recreating a child star’s image; but in this case I think this had more to do with the photographer (who has pulled this same stunt dozens of times over the years with various artists) and Vanity Fair than the Disney execs or even her parents were aware of. This should be a wake up call to Disney not to let Anne Liebowitz or Vanity Fair anywhere near any of their kids ever again.


16 posted on 05/05/2008 5:44:45 AM PDT by contemplator (Capitalism gets no Rock Concerts)
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To: Invisigoth

Ahhh, all the pious FReeeprs come out to crow.

This is the funny thing about FR. The attitude is that this Cyrus picture is absolute evil and someone should be arrested for taking it. On the other hand polygamous child molestors should not have the government harassing them.

If anyone wants to know exactly how screwed up a theocracy would be in America, read FR.


17 posted on 05/05/2008 5:44:45 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: bboop

Bingo!


18 posted on 05/05/2008 5:46:09 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: equaviator
Miley will always be Hannah Montana. However, they are now rolling her out as a young woman who will soon be legally mature enough to be exploited as an adult. The exploitation won’t end with her turning 18 years old.

You would think that with the millions she's already made, she could afford to be more choosy about what she has to do to transition to a more mature stage of her career.

At what point would you say to yourself, "...a semi-nude photo spread to look serious? No thanks, I don't need that...if I can't get on my acting/singing talent, I'm satisfied with what I have, and I'm not willing to squander my personal and professional integrity for a few bucks."

19 posted on 05/05/2008 5:50:25 AM PDT by Lou L
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To: L98Fiero
The attitude is that this Cyrus picture is absolute evil and someone should be arrested for taking it. On the other hand polygamous child molestors should not have the government harassing them.

Apples and Oranges. I dont think you'll find a single Freeper arguing that the molesting of children in a polygamous arrangement or otherwise is right. They are arguing over the goverments role in the affair. In the case of the Miley photos, the government didn't step in, and no one is arguing whether or not it should have. Your readiness to call others 'pious' and spin this into a religious debate is telling.
20 posted on 05/05/2008 5:53:00 AM PDT by contemplator (Capitalism gets no Rock Concerts)
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To: L98Fiero
Ahhh, all the pious FReeeprs come out to crow.

It's been a long-standing tradition of FreeRepublic to make political and social commentary on topics of interest. It's called a free exchange of ideas. If you don't like it here, perhaps you'd be more comfortable over at DU?

21 posted on 05/05/2008 5:53:15 AM PDT by Lou L
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To: proxy_user
the gang of kids hanging out behind the garage are not necessarily in agreement with this?

LOL!

If my children see my husband and me being even the slightest bit affectionate, they start arguing about whether they'll have a new brother or sister, and who's going to have to share a room with it, and can my oldest boy run away and live in the wilderness with a pocketknife, and yadda yadda yadda ...

22 posted on 05/05/2008 5:55:01 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Curtis Blackwood for State Rep! Jeff Gerber for County Commissioner! Vote early and often!)
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To: xsmommy
of course we have to blame miley and her parents. It is her parents job to raise her to NOT be taken in by the culture.

Isn't the dad, though, that achy breaky heart moron, Billy Ray Cyrus? I mean there's no way that dude is playing with a full deck.

23 posted on 05/05/2008 5:55:18 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: L98Fiero
You really must be reading all the wrong threads.

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24 posted on 05/05/2008 5:55:37 AM PDT by Delta 21 ( MKC USCG - ret)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Actually, this photo is the creepiest of the set:


25 posted on 05/05/2008 5:57:39 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: L98Fiero
If anyone wants to know exactly how screwed up a theocracy would be in America, read FR.

You'd think you wouldn't have to explain to people what's wrong with the idea of mixing theocracy with bureaucracy.

27 posted on 05/05/2008 5:58:51 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Invisigoth
I've finally figured out why Miley Cyrus annoys me: She looks like Mackenzie Phillips, who always bugged me, and her handlers are trying to do a Sarah Jessica Parker on us with her.......presenting her as sexy and attractive when she is neither.


28 posted on 05/05/2008 5:58:58 AM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

yeah, and he’s gross.


29 posted on 05/05/2008 6:00:05 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: tacticalogic; L98Fiero
You'd think you wouldn't have to explain to people what's wrong with the idea of mixing theocracy theology with bureaucracy.

Not posting any more until I've had more coffee.......

30 posted on 05/05/2008 6:01:27 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Invisigoth
Ok. To me, the upsetting part of the photograph is the fullness of her face. That shows her youthful adolescence. She is showing no more skin than she would be doing in a bathing suit. It's the look she's giving coupled with the round face. She hasn't lost the face weight that young girls lose when they turn 20-22 so we are struck by how young she looks (because she IS young). The photo is inappropriate and she should have had better counseling.
31 posted on 05/05/2008 6:03:15 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: bboop
Where were her parents

They were there on the set giving their tacit approval.

32 posted on 05/05/2008 6:03:34 AM PDT by doodad
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To: Lou L
It's called a free exchange of ideas. If you don't like it here, perhaps you'd be more comfortable over at DU?

Gotcha. Free exchange if ideas. "Think like me or get out!" Nice.

33 posted on 05/05/2008 6:03:57 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: Lou L

In the minds of liberals, concepts of serious art and free speech become concepts of ever-increasing cheapness. In the minds of liberals, they must at least appear to believe that they’re participating in the advancement of multiculturalism. Another problem of theirs is a reluctance to admit when they’re only in it for the money and more of the “stuff” that comes with fame and fortune.


34 posted on 05/05/2008 6:08:51 AM PDT by equaviator ("There's a plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: Jane Austen

I agree. I have a 15-year-old daughter and can’t imagine her posing for the masses in such a way. There are enough problems with pedophilia; celebrities don’t need to encourage the sexualization of children.


35 posted on 05/05/2008 6:09:13 AM PDT by quiet_reverie (http://www.associatedcontent.com/user/19476/donna_hope.html)
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To: NotMeAgain
"Then we could burn her at the stake for having the audacity to show her back."

Yeah, cuz ANYONE who would disagree with this being a good idea must be some insane Bible-thumper...

36 posted on 05/05/2008 6:09:24 AM PDT by Sam's Army
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To: Lizavetta

Excellent! The subversive “One Day At a Time” strategy.

I agreew ith you. The media tells us who is beautiful, and then pounds away until we agree.

Look at Julia Roberts. Clownmouth is not beautiful, but she was hyped after Pretty Woman to no end, into $ 20 million/picture. Then we found out that there was a body double used in many scenes. I can’t look at her either.

Come to think of it, Julia reminds me of MacKenzie Phillips. Hmmmmmm.........


37 posted on 05/05/2008 6:11:27 AM PDT by exit82 (People get the government they deserve. And they are about to get it--in spades.)
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To: wolfcreek

“This is just the next step”

BINGO! This is business. This is the business she is in. Her current fans are getting older. If she expects to keep them it’s time for her to slut it up.

The young girl acts all have to do this as they get older or they fade from the scene.


38 posted on 05/05/2008 6:13:54 AM PDT by live+let_live
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To: gridlock
Excuse me, but this child star has two parents that are extremely PR sophisticated.
39 posted on 05/05/2008 6:14:49 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: L98Fiero

“Gotcha. Free exchange if ideas. “Think like me or get out!” Nice.”

You spin it pretty hard there L98Fiero...don’t hurt yourself, now. However, if it’s victimhood you seek to achieve then I guess that’s your business. You have that right!


40 posted on 05/05/2008 6:16:47 AM PDT by equaviator ("There's a plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: equaviator

Slut was an approiate word!


41 posted on 05/05/2008 6:18:54 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: Invisigoth

It was the predatory photographer’s fault.......just looking for that million dollar picture.............Anne Leibowitz or whatever her name is.


42 posted on 05/05/2008 6:20:41 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: Invisigoth

What a stupid analysis.

Besides the sexualization issue, which, by the way, is the number one way to screw up (no pun intended) the developing adolescent brain, this whole incident reeks of greed and ignorance. On the part of the parents.

This girl is worth about$1B. Does she really need to do Vanity Fair for money?

This girl is on every magazine cover and is on the verge of going into publicity saturation. Did she really need to do Vanity Fair to get even more publicity?

No. She needs neither money nor additional publicity right now. What her parents fell into, besides the greed trap, is the age-old lie that a star who has a reputation as a good person must somehow reposition herself as a bad, edgy, “grown-up” (i.e., sexual and dumb) person who has “grown” out of her “typecasting.”

There’s nothing wrong with being a good person. There’s something wrong with being a person who is uncomfortable having a reputation as a good person.


43 posted on 05/05/2008 6:23:14 AM PDT by fightinJAG (RUSH: McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton longer than we've been in Iraq, and never gave up.)
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To: originalbuckeye
She is showing no more skin than she would be doing in a bathing suit.

And if it were just a picture of a teenager in a bathing suit, the reaction would be, "Oh, slightly chunky, somewhat cute young girl in a bathing suit. Big deal." She certainly wouldn't be in "Vogue."

These photographs, being "art", have the purpose of making the subject look like a whore while giving dirty old men and lesbians a cheap thrill.

44 posted on 05/05/2008 6:24:06 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Curtis Blackwood for State Rep! Jeff Gerber for County Commissioner! Vote early and often!)
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To: fightinJAG

Nice close - you put that excellently


45 posted on 05/05/2008 6:26:24 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: fightinJAG
There’s nothing wrong with being a good person. There’s something wrong with being a person who is uncomfortable having a reputation as a good person.

WE HAVE A WINNER!

46 posted on 05/05/2008 6:27:52 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Curtis Blackwood for State Rep! Jeff Gerber for County Commissioner! Vote early and often!)
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To: contemplator

Disney by now should realize this is the trajectory of their/in general stars.

If they sincerely think this risks their stars’ careers (they don’t; they actually like this because it helps lower the bar for what their fans accept and then Disney can continue to spiral down its content), Disney could put a clause in the contracts that covered these things.

It was totally predictable that Vanity Fair would try everything possible to encourage Cyrus and her parents to do as controversial a shoot as possible. Duh. What’s not “duh” is that her parents/minders fell for it? “Artist”? That’s the oldest line in the book. As someone else posted, once the suggestion was made that this girl take her underwear off, flags should have been waving in the minder’s heads. And even in Miley’s head. She’s not too young to know taking your clothes off for something that will be published is not the way to go.


47 posted on 05/05/2008 6:29:42 AM PDT by fightinJAG (RUSH: McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton longer than we've been in Iraq, and never gave up.)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

Gross! I hadn’t seen that one, and wish I hadn’t.


48 posted on 05/05/2008 6:31:21 AM PDT by fightinJAG (RUSH: McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton longer than we've been in Iraq, and never gave up.)
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To: Invisigoth

There was once a time when an average 15-year-old girl would have said “NO” to such a photo request on her own ... without the need to seek advice from her parents, publicists, Mickey Mouse, or the ouja board.


49 posted on 05/05/2008 6:31:37 AM PDT by bimbo
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To: Invisigoth
Was there this much commotion about a teenaged Britney Spears fulfilling the sexual fantasies of 40 something males with her school girl video?

I usually like artistic photography yet saw nothing artistic nor beautiful (or even pornographic) about the photos of Cyrus in question.

She did show poor judgment in her MySpace photos tho, IMHO. Which is why when my girls got MySpace accts, so did I!

50 posted on 05/05/2008 6:34:13 AM PDT by sweet_diane ("They hate us cause they ain't us." RTR! ~runs with scissors~ of the Rush tribe)
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