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Black backlash could hit Clinton -- Some voters might bail if Obama isn't nominee
Cox News Service via Commercial Appeal ^ | 5/5/8 | Ken Herman, Cox News Service

Posted on 05/05/2008 10:05:21 AM PDT by SmithL

HICKORY, N.C. --It spans the spectrum from moderate to militant, but it's not difficult to tap into a potential backlash among African-American supporters of Barack Obama if superdelegates give the Democratic presidential nomination to Hillary Clinton.

Some in North Carolina, site of a crucial primary on Tuesday, fear it will happen. Some expect it to happen. Some think it could cause a rift in black voters' long-standing allegiance to the Democratic Party.

And some, like Sharon Crosby of Lawndale, N.C., say they'd stay home rather than vote for Clinton in November.

"How would I feel? I would feel cheated, cheated, because it's happened before when the Republicans were winning. Enough of that. There's been just enough of that. We need to do it right," said Crosby, 51, who is self-employed.

And what of forfeiting a basic right black Americans fought many years to get?

"I wouldn't feel good about it because I have always voted," she said. "But sometimes you just have to stand for what you believe in, and, no, I wouldn't (vote)."

For Democrats eager to recapture the White House, that's not good news. In a year when close races in a handful of swing states could determine the outcome, neither party can afford erosion in its core.

"We're talking about quite a few swing states in terms of the kinds of states that Democrats would be looking to win," David Bositis of the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies said in analyzing the potential situation.

In the end, Bositis believes black voters, in large numbers, would fall in line with Clinton, whose candidacy could end if she doesn't win in either North Carolina or Indiana on Tuesday.

Bositis could be right, but, for now, it's not hard to find black supporters of Obama who say there's no way they'd back Clinton.

"I'd feel dissatisfied, really dissatisfied, because I think in other words if (Obama) is leading in all categories and if something like that comes by I know he has been shafted," said Jack Corpening of Valdese, N.C., a retired military man and postal worker. "I'm pretty well seeing that's what's going to happen."

And that would make Corpening a non-voter because he could not bring himself to back Clinton and wouldn't back probable GOP nominee John McCain. It's a scenario he believes could do damage to the black-Democratic alliance.

"When you separate the party it's going to cause a lot of problems, " he said.

Delores Littlejohn of Gastonia is more to the moderate side, excited enough about Obama to hobble on an injured ankle -- with members of three other generations of her family --- to the Illinois senator's recent appearance at Hickory High School.

Upset though she'd be if Obama is not nominated, Littlejohn, 68, said she'd back Clinton if she prevails.

"I probably wouldn't like it but I still would support her," she said.

Retired telephone company worker Jimmy Jenkins of Lenoir, N.C., 60, is an Obama man who could reluctantly become a Clinton man if she gets the nomination. But he wants her to drop out now.

"I think there are some ego things going on. It's almost like she feels she is anointed to have the presidency," said Jenkins.

In Charlotte, retired educator Althea Rudrow, 74, said she is not sure she could vote for Clinton and is upset with her "because of her negativity."

Clinton spokesman Phil Singer went generic when asked about black voters' concerns about his candidate.

"Both candidates have strong and passionate supporters who we believe will come together to send a Democrat to the White House," Singer said.

Maybe, if you listen to Obama supporters such as Edith Childs, a Greenwood, S.C., councilwoman credited with bringing Obama's signature "Fired up" chant to the campaign.

An optimistic woman by nature, Childs three times refused to even speculate about the possibility of Obama not winning the nomination.

A fourth try -- phrased in terms of whether she can guarantee she will in November continue her lifelong record of voting for Democratic presidential nominees -- produced this: "Well, kind of, sort of, probably. That's the best I can do."

Former Dallas Mayor Ron Kirk, an Obama backer and unsuccessful 2002 candidate to become the first black Texan in the U.S. Senate, cautions against reading too much into the rhetoric du jour.

"Asking people (now) what they think is not at all going to be indicative of how they're going to behave in November," Kirk said. "I'm as guilty as anyone of parroting some of that," he added of anti-Clinton talk.

"Senator Clinton, if you believe her rhetoric that she's uniquely suited to lead the country ... she ought to be good enough based on her background and experience to win without having to kneecap Barack Obama," Kirk said. "The tenor and tone of her campaign speaks for itself."

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Swing states

Black population in probable swing states. (The United States is 12.4 percent black):

Florida: 15.4 percent

Michigan: 14.1 percent

Ohio: 11.8 percent

Missouri: 11.3 percent

Pennsylvania: 10.4 percent

Nevada: 7.3 percent

Minnesota: 4.4 percent

Colorado: 3.7 percent

W. Virginia: 3.2 percent

Iowa: 2.3 percent

New Mexico:2.0 percent

Oregon: 1.7 percent

New Hampshire: 1.1 percent

1 posted on 05/05/2008 10:05:22 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

One of the hopes of Operation Chaos. Bwahahahahaha.

2 posted on 05/05/2008 10:08:06 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: SmithL

Never really happen since most Blacks enjoy the abuse they suffer at the hands of the Democrats. She could run Obama over with a bus and most would jump on and still vote for her before his feet stopped switching.

3 posted on 05/05/2008 10:09:09 AM PDT by Trueblackman (Terrorism and Liberalism never sleep and neither do I)
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To: SmithL

A thinly veiled threat in the form of an article? The tenor of the article makes it apparent to me that the author has an agenda. Whatever happened to the idea of journalists at least trying to hide their biases?

4 posted on 05/05/2008 10:09:56 AM PDT by contemplator (Capitalism gets no Rock Concerts)
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To: SmithL

In the end, Bositis believes black voters, in large numbers, would fall in line with Clinton,....

That is exactly how it will be. They will be miffed at first, but they will come around. And if Hitlery gets it, I will hate Rush forever.

5 posted on 05/05/2008 10:12:20 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Tagline is in the shop -- being retooled as a hybrid.)
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To: SmithL
Let all segments of the Democratic rainbow coalition be of the following mind when dealing with one another throughout the rest of their primary and then onto the convention floor.

"To the last, I will grapple with thee. From hell's heart, I stab at thee. For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee!"




6 posted on 05/05/2008 10:13:00 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (
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To: SmithL

There is no way that Florida will go Obama.
no way at all.

7 posted on 05/05/2008 10:15:32 AM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: SmithL
This reflects one of the dynamics that led to my title for the May Feature at the Return Of The Gods Web Site, "Leftwing Chickens Coming Home."

Obama, however, represents something sinister in its own right, and the main theme of my article are the parallels between the Obama phenomenon and the Nazi phenomenon in Germany, in the 1930s.

Anyone interested can read it at Coming Home To Roost.

If I find a little time, later today, I may post it at Free Republic.

William Flax

8 posted on 05/05/2008 10:19:23 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: SmithL
Worst case?

President Obama, Vice-President Clinton.
Think of it:

• Two years and one day into her term the first slotter gets arkincided
• Under Article XXII, she can still run for two full terms as the incumbent
• The Glorious Hillary!™ Decade begins
• Hillary uses the Patriot Act to it's fullest extent, and beyond
• At the end of the Glorious Hillary!™ Decade there is a National Emergency "temporarily" delaying the elections
• Under the pressure of the National Emergency, the 2nd and 22nd amendments are repealed
• By the time the National Emergency is over all the 'improved' source code for the touch screen electronic balloting will be in place......

Just as an aside, with the Clinton's well known love of 'ethnics', Obama is very expendable, isn't he?

9 posted on 05/05/2008 10:22:07 AM PDT by null and void (My brain is a sieve, and Aratosthenes is nowhere to be found.)
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To: SmithL
which begs the questions:
- how much of that black population percent are voters ?
and of the precent of black voters,
- what is that a percent of, of overall voters ?
- and can that total swing an election ?
10 posted on 05/05/2008 10:23:55 AM PDT by stylin19a
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To: SmithL

Rush just said that Mrs. Clinton got internal polling showing she is in trouble in Indiana.

11 posted on 05/05/2008 10:24:50 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: SmithL
It may another hundred years before black people stop being so politically stupid. Just because the man looks black is no reason to vote for him.
12 posted on 05/05/2008 10:35:38 AM PDT by Clock King (The Oligarchy will make slaves of us all)
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To: SmithL
"Black backlash could hit Clinton -- Some voters might bail if Obama isn't nominee"

Everytime I think I've seen it all, someone comes along with a headline that makes one go, "Whaaaaaaaa?".

Of course some [obama] voters will stay home if clinton wins...AND...some [clinton] voters will stay home if obama wins.


"Sour grapes" is a natural - albeit nonproductive and a bit immature - human emotion. Everyone wants their "guy" to win.

It's just too damn bad their don't seem to care that much if AMERICA wins.

How many hundreds of posts have been made on this forum by those conservatives - including me in the early days - who vowed to stay home if Huckaby, or Thompson, or anyone other than mccain didn't win? But, I think a lot of us will come around when we stop to inventory the alternative to a RINO, will be either of the commie/socialists on the democrat ticket.

It will be a stop-gap measure, but we have to put a finger in the dike to hold back the flow of socialism until we can reorganize and energize conservatives in 2012.

Meanwhile, we can just pop up the corn - assuming there will be any left after the big ethanol craze - and watch the dems take each other apart like the Holy Grail Knight. It'll be a hoot.

There will be a lot of these "If obama wins..." or "If hillary wins..." articles, laced with threats of race riots to try and intimidate Americans into trashing our core principles and pick a President based more on the quotas of race and/or gender, than ability.

Maybe in 2012, the dems will get Simon Cowell, Randy Jackson and Paula Abdul to pick the President "American Idol" style. That's what the good-time, plastic-banana, rock and roll lefties would like, I'm sure.
13 posted on 05/05/2008 10:38:19 AM PDT by FrankR (OBAMA is the VAST WRIGHT-WING CONSPIRACY...)
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To: SmithL

I wouldn’t put much stock in this.

A while back I said I would never vote for McCain, but I will.

14 posted on 05/05/2008 10:40:17 AM PDT by keats5 (tolerance of intolerant people is cultural suicide)
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To: SmithL
The problem for RATS and especially black RATS is that in most states that they are a large enough number of the population it would make little difference if they vote or not. The RATS either would win by a slightly smaller % or they would just lose by a larger % than they would if blacks voted.

OH, MI, and PA are the only states they could swing. They can cause Hildabeast to lose but there is no way they can cause Osama Obama to win!

IMHO the down ticket races would be what suffers if blacks stay home. The blacks seldom split their ticket but white RATS that wont vote for Osama will.

15 posted on 05/05/2008 10:41:48 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: SmithL
Good. If the black population bails out on the Democrat party, EVERYONE WINS. Especially the blacks.
16 posted on 05/05/2008 10:55:33 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (Just say NObama!)
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To: Beagle8U

Kerry won 20 states in 2004, despite losing the white vote in 9 of them (CA, DE, IL, MD, MI, NJ, NY, PA, and WI). Excluding CA, in which the Latino and Asian are more important, and NY, which is Clinton’s home state, and she could be in danger in Delaware, Illinois, Maryland, Michigan, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and even Wisconsin if enough of the black vote stay home or votes Republican. Those states are worth 97 EVs combined.

17 posted on 05/05/2008 11:35:24 AM PDT by LWalk18
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To: LWalk18

I posted that they can cause clinton to lose, but they can’t cause osama obama to win.

They either stay home or vote straight RAT.

The RATS will lose with either one in Nov.

18 posted on 05/05/2008 12:06:33 PM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Beagle8U
The RATS will lose with either one in Nov.

Operation Chaos!

19 posted on 05/05/2008 12:08:05 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (El Conservo Tribe, tribal name "Avoids Fort Marcy Park" Watching the Rat Fight. typical white person)
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To: SmithL

Both Dems look like damaged goods. This is McCain’s election to lose.

20 posted on 05/05/2008 1:02:22 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (When hopelessness replaces hope, it opens the door to evil.)
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