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Nutter Says NRA Owes Slain Officer's Family An Apology
KYW1060 ^

Posted on 05/05/2008 11:22:46 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Nutter Says NRA Owes Slain Officer's Family An Apology

by KYW's Mike Dunn

Philadelphia mayor Michael Nutter says the National Rifle Association -- which has sued to stop the city from enacting its own gun laws -- owes the Liczbinski family an apology.

Last month the mayor quickly signed five new gun restrictions into law, and just as quickly the NRA filed a lawsuit in court to stop enforcement of the new legislation. A temporary restraining order was issued and a hearing scheduled for May 19th.

One of those bills would have outlawed the sale and use of assault weapons, including the type used on Saturday in the murder of Sgt. Stephen Liczbinski.

On Monday morning Mayor Nutter (in file photo above) said the officer's death shows, in his view, that there is no legitimate sports use for this type of weapon. And he had this message for the NRA:

"I think that they should make an immediate statement acknowledging that there is no legitimate reason for anyone to have such a weapon and should join us in supporting -- at least -- this kind of reasonable legislation. They don't have a leg to stand on, and they owe the Liczbinski family an apology for their obstructionist activity in this regard."

The NRA contends that only the state, not the city, can enact gun laws. A spokesman for the NRA was not available for comment.

(Excerpt) Read more at kyw1060.com ...


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1 posted on 05/05/2008 11:22:49 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Nuts to nutty Nutter!.....


2 posted on 05/05/2008 11:24:23 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Sub-Driver

Oh I see. If the gun laws were intact then it would have been illegal to shoot the officer.


3 posted on 05/05/2008 11:25:11 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: Sub-Driver
Nutter Says NRA Owes Slain Officer's Family An Apology

Only a Nutter would argue that thugs don't kill people, guns do.

4 posted on 05/05/2008 11:25:27 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: Sub-Driver

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5 posted on 05/05/2008 11:25:47 AM PDT by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: Sub-Driver

So, I guess this purchase took place after the Mayor’s signing... And, I suppose that said purchaser is an upstanding, law-abiding citizen that broke no other laws on his/her way to committing this crime...


6 posted on 05/05/2008 11:26:11 AM PDT by Poseidon
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To: Sub-Driver

In a liberal world everytime someone is killed, it’s the guns fault!


7 posted on 05/05/2008 11:26:54 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Sub-Driver

well damn those law abiding citizens who just pick up a gun and shoot a cop as he’s rolling down the street...oh, wait a minute..these guys weren’t exactly law abiding..


8 posted on 05/05/2008 11:28:05 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (www.liberallunacy.bravehost.com..I'm a Patriot Guard Rider. www.patriotguard.org for info.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Philly has a CRIMINAL problem ... not a gun problem. The mayor doesn’t have the guts to address that.


9 posted on 05/05/2008 11:29:27 AM PDT by mgc1122
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To: mgc1122

You have it exactly right. They have a CRIMINAL problem.


10 posted on 05/05/2008 11:33:27 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Sub-Driver

Let’s just say, for the sake of argument, that the gunman wanted to LEGALLY purchase that rifle, but they couldn’t be sold inside the city limits. What would stop him from going outside the city and buying it?

Of course, criminals don’t buy legal guns. Too easy to trace. They buy illegal/stolen guns, not from a licensed gun dealer, but off the street from another criminal.


11 posted on 05/05/2008 11:34:32 AM PDT by fredhead (4-cylinder, air cooled, horizontally opposed......THE REAL VW!!!)
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To: Sub-Driver
Phoenix and Philadelphia have almost equal populations - Phoenix is slightly larger.

The law-abiding citizens of Phoenix are allowed to own firearms. The law-abiding citizens of Philadelphia aren't.

Philadelphia had 75% more murders than Phoenix in 2007.

The aptly-named Nutter probably failed math in grammar school.

12 posted on 05/05/2008 11:35:27 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Poseidon

Saw this posted over at gunsnet.net

The rifle was a Chinese SKS and they have not been imported since 1994 or so... There were prehaps a million or so brought in in the 80s & 90s though.

And BTW, the criminals were Black Muslims...


13 posted on 05/05/2008 11:38:19 AM PDT by El Laton Caliente (NRA Member & www.Gunsnet.net Moderator)
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To: Poseidon
I guess this purchase took place after the Mayor’s signing

No, but the USE of it did; it would have been illegal to use it! Don't you see?

If the law was in effect, the muderer couldn't have used the "assault weapon" to murder the murderee; he would have had to use a different weapon to kill him!

Only makes sense to a Liberal gun-grabber.

14 posted on 05/05/2008 11:38:53 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: Sub-Driver
including the type used on Saturday in the murder of Sgt. Stephen Liczbinski.

It was a bank robbery. Sgt Liczbinski was one of the responding officers.

But lets just call it murder and not mention the bank robbery, nor the female MUSLIM clothing worn by the robbers at all in the article.

15 posted on 05/05/2008 11:38:58 AM PDT by Domandred (McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
"In a liberal world everytime someone is killed, it’s the guns fault!"

Listen:
I have seen guns jump up and shoot for no reason.
Now mine won't because I have them trained. Mine only shoot bad people.

16 posted on 05/05/2008 11:39:07 AM PDT by Voter#537 (We must make sure our Brave Military gets the support to Win This WAR. Not another Viet Nam.)
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To: mgc1122
Just a typical white guy .. love Jesus, love country and love the freedom the 2nd amendment's gives me. Not bright enough to understand the elitist way of life, obviously because of my bitter upbringing and inability to be productive. (I employ 67 people)

But since I am not receiving gubmnint subsidy, I certainly am doing something wrong. I just don't understand how it should be (dripping sarcasm)

I Despise the Magic Negroe and all the commie Richard Craniums that in their elitism and nuanced world view forgot 1% of the realities that made this country great.

Well here is a reality ... the world needs an enema ...Philly is the place of insertion. The Marxists made it that way

17 posted on 05/05/2008 11:49:26 AM PDT by HiramQuick (work harder ... welfare recipients depend on you!)
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To: El Laton Caliente
The rifle was a Chinese SKS and they have not been imported since 1994 or so

Two SKSs were found, but it was an identified as a AK-47 that actually killed Liczbinski held by Howard Cain. Also found were a .44 revolver and .22 revolver.

Haven't seen the Chinese SKS, but it must have been a stock model. Here is the "AK-47" clone:

That sure looks like a paratrooper model to me with an ATI folding stock. Not to mention a 30rnd duck bill magazine.

In fact looks almost identical to the one of the three I own, except I use the factory magazine instead of a duck bill.

18 posted on 05/05/2008 11:49:42 AM PDT by Domandred (McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
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To: Sub-Driver

So then all of the other killings, by people who cannot legally own firearms, are Nutter’s fault because the NRA supports enforcing existing laws?

What a bunch of crap. Nutter indeed. Appropriately named. He should team up with Bloomberg. Bloomberg and Nutter, political hacks.


19 posted on 05/05/2008 11:50:49 AM PDT by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: Domandred

Wow... But, it’s the guns’ and NRA’s fault according to Nutter.


20 posted on 05/05/2008 11:51:46 AM PDT by Clock King (The Oligarchy will make slaves of us all)
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To: Sub-Driver

Hey, is he a muslim? Did you listen to the video clip? They found 2 sets of what sounds like “Muslim clothing” in one vehicle and another set in the jeep used in the murder. I’ve listened to the clip several times now and I’m sure he says “Muslim clothes.” Check it out and tell me what you think he says. IF so, he’s a black Muslim!


21 posted on 05/05/2008 11:53:38 AM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: Voter#537
Now mine won't because I have them trained. Mine only shoot bad people.

Some day, when they reach their teens and raging hormones kick in, one of your trained guns is going to meet a rogue SUV, and get talked into something she otherwise wouldn't consider, and they'll run off together, causing coast to coast havoc!

And if they manage to stay loose long enough to breed, we'll end up with a litter of these running around feral:

You may laugh now, but it isn't funny when those puppies grow up to be one of these:


22 posted on 05/05/2008 11:53:53 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: Sub-Driver
“There is no legitimate sports use for this type of weapon...”

Don't you just love it when nit wit politicians equate our God given freedoms to “sports use.”

This POS Mayor has no clue what our Constitution is all about. That being said prayers up for the slain officer and his family.

23 posted on 05/05/2008 12:02:50 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (I miss Ronnie!!!!!)
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To: Sub-Driver
What a novel idea! Usually, you want the person responsible to apologize.
24 posted on 05/05/2008 12:09:51 PM PDT by starlifter
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To: Sub-Driver

The mayor is just playing to his audience and fans - the largely ignorant, bigoted people who depend on the govt for their very existence...

We all know it’s against the law to shoot people and we all know that gun laws have never made the streets of any city safer (if you think you have stats that refute my statement, those stats are propaganda)...

So, in short, the NRA should just continue to do what it does and keep fighting the good fight.

Yours truly,
The Woim


25 posted on 05/05/2008 12:11:36 PM PDT by The Woim (Agitating for social change: Abolish all gun laws NOW! Abolish the Dept of Education!)
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To: The Woim

Accused cop killer walked out of Reading halfway house

By Tom Infield

INQUIRER STAFF WRITER
Twelve days after he was admitted to a half-way house in Reading on Feb. 15, Eric DeShann Floyd, signed himself out and simply walked away.

Within hours, Floyd was listed as an escapee.

Floyd is now wanted as an accomplice in the shooting of a Philadelphia policeman Saturday afternoon.

Susan McNaughton, spokeswoman for the state Department of Corrections, said the staff at the halfway house earlier had found Floyd in possession of a cell phone - a banned item for inmates who conceivably might use them for drug deals.

“He must have been worried he’d be sent back to prison,” McNaughton said.

Floyd twice had been confined to Pennsylvania prisons after convictions for robberies in Lackawanna County, where Scranton is located, state records show.

He served the full five years of a one- to five-year sentenced imposed in 1995.

He re-entered the prison system on May 17, 2002 after the second conviction, this time on a sentence of 7 1/2 to 15 years.

McNaughton said he was released to a counseling center - the state’s term for a halfway house - in July 2007. But he was quickly hauled back into prison after some sort of violation of the terms of his release.

http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20080505_Accused_cop_killer_walked_out_of_Reading_halfway_house_.html


26 posted on 05/05/2008 12:13:59 PM PDT by Sub-Driver (Proud member of the Republican wing of the Republican Party)
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To: Domandred
I previously listened to the clip at the link to the article, and I thought he said they found 2 sets of Muslim clothes in one vehicle and another in the jeep that was stolen. When I read the article that you posted the link to, I discovered that they are black Muslims.

From that link:

The bank robbery appeared to have been well-planned. The three robbers were wearing Muslim garb and they had a small arsenal of weapons found later in a Chrysler Town and Country van.

27 posted on 05/05/2008 12:17:18 PM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: Sub-Driver

there is no legitimate sports use for this type of weapon

The 2nd amendment has no sporting application either.


28 posted on 05/05/2008 12:20:20 PM PDT by READINABLUESTATE (I will not walk on politically correct eggshells)
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To: NRA2BFree

The media gingerly avoids mentioning such things.


29 posted on 05/05/2008 12:23:07 PM PDT by Califreak (Hangin' with Hunter-under the bus "Dread and Circuses")
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To: Sub-Driver

Has there ever been a more apt name???


30 posted on 05/05/2008 12:23:34 PM PDT by mpackard (Proud mama of a Sailor.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Hoplophobe!


31 posted on 05/05/2008 12:31:12 PM PDT by gc4nra ( this tag line protected by Kimber and the First Amendment (I voted for McClintock))
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To: Sub-Driver

If not for the easy availability of assault weapons, made possible by the NRA, Dick Cheney, and other typical white guys, this man would have probably gotten his PhD in microbiology and invented a cure for aids.

He is a victim of the gun culture.


32 posted on 05/05/2008 12:37:18 PM PDT by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: Sub-Driver
The NRA contends that only the state, not the city, can enact gun laws.

No, KYW, this is not the NRA's "contention." It's the law of the Commonwealth of PA. If you don't like it, change the law in Harrisburg, don't pretend it doesn't exist.

33 posted on 05/05/2008 12:38:35 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: El Laton Caliente
"The rifle was a Chinese SKS and they have not been imported since 1994 or so... There were prehaps a million or so brought in in the 80s & 90s though."

Yes, and if you will recall, lots were smuggled in by the ChiCom shipping company, CHAMCO, in containers destined for the street gangs in LA. Oh, yeah, and you will never guess who the Administration that approved this business was...

34 posted on 05/05/2008 12:49:28 PM PDT by Redleg Duke ("All gave some, and some gave all!")
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To: Redleg Duke

Refresh my memory: Was that the company owned by DiFi’s husband? Or am I confusing him with another bunch of gunrunners?


35 posted on 05/05/2008 12:51:18 PM PDT by Redcloak (The 2nd Amendment: It's not about sporting goods.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
I've posted this before.
I asked a Philly cop about the murder problem etc.
He told me that NOT ONCE in 13 years on the force has he seen a Philadelphia judge impose a mandatory minimum sentence.
NOT ONCE!!!!!
They bring the criminals in and the judges find a way to get them back on the streets ASAP.
36 posted on 05/05/2008 12:56:47 PM PDT by GeneralisimoFranciscoFranco (I love liberals. They taste like chicken.)
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To: Sub-Driver

What a maroon!


37 posted on 05/05/2008 12:57:50 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: Redcloak

It was approved by Ron Brown and Slick Willy!


38 posted on 05/05/2008 1:00:17 PM PDT by Redleg Duke ("All gave some, and some gave all!")
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To: Sub-Driver

The laws forbidding murder or robbery seem to have been insufficient. Maybe more laws forbidding more crimes will be the answer!


39 posted on 05/05/2008 1:28:25 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Sub-Driver

Dear Nutty Nutter,
Hey moron maybe if you started to do your duties as mayor you’d crack down on crime and start putting the thugs and punks away when the break the law. Cities like Detroit and Killadelphia and more dangerous than downtown Baghdad. Wonder why??


40 posted on 05/05/2008 1:32:50 PM PDT by kenmcg
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To: READINABLUESTATE
The 2nd amendment has no sporting application either.

Nope; tyrants are vermin, with no closed season nor bag limits; no license or tags required.

41 posted on 05/05/2008 1:35:03 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: GeneralisimoFranciscoFranco

It is probably because the Philadelphia judges are promoted from the bottom ranks of Philadelphia lawyers.


42 posted on 05/05/2008 1:38:41 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: kenmcg
as mayor you’d crack down on crime

Terrible idea. You can't scare people into accepting the Lib agenda, if all the scariest people are off the streets.

43 posted on 05/05/2008 1:41:01 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: Califreak
The media gingerly avoids mentioning such things.

Exactly! That's because most of them are liberals and they feel sorry for them.

Btw, As I was reading your profile, it was like you had written mine. LOL We are definitely on the same page on all the issues!

44 posted on 05/05/2008 2:29:19 PM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: Sub-Driver

Ah, yes, Philadelphia, where the Bruhvas and Sistahs are “running the show”, as ex-mayor Street said. This is the 3rd white cop shot and killed by blacks in the last 2 years in the City of Brotherly Lead(would have been 4, but one cop, who was shot in the face survived somehow—also several other cops, including a white Philly policewoman, have been shot and wounded in the past year). Now some bruthas dressed in Muslim garb kill another white officer. Call it a two-fer— members of the “race of peace” in the costume of the “religion of peace”.

Here’s a thought, Mayor Liver Lips Nutter—how about asking the black community to apologize to the officer and his family?

Well, all’s not lost, he’s got ol’Chief Ramsey, the new top cop, who helped bungle the black/Muslim DC sniper case a few years ago when he worked his magic in DC(I guess that’s an improvement, the previous police chief in Philly, Sylvester Johnson, who said “We can’t arrest our way out of this crime problem”, was a member of the Nation of Islam, who disciplined a white cop who made critical comments about Islam in the wake of 9/11.)

I just watched the news here in Philly at 5 PM-they showed a bunch of civilians paying tribute to the slain officer at the crime scene-leaving flowers, etc—all the many people I saw were white. I’m sure the black folk will come out later—maybe led by Philly’s own Rev. Wright. /sarc

Sorry, I guess this whole thing leaves me a little “bitter”


45 posted on 05/05/2008 3:12:22 PM PDT by Mac from Cleveland (Three rules for a happy life-Fill what's empty, empty what's full, and scratch what itches.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Seems to me the Mayor owes the policeman's family an apology for having issued standing orders that directed him to show up at a bankrobbery.

Absent those orders, the policeman could have been leaning back enjoying a doughnut or something.

46 posted on 05/05/2008 3:21:38 PM PDT by muawiyah
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