Posted on 05/05/2008 2:04:29 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
Sen. John McCain said Monday the tenor of the immigration debate has hurt the way Hispanic voters view the Republican Party.
"I believe the majority of Hispanics share our view that the border must be secured, and the border must be secured first," McCain said in Phoenix, Arizona.
"But they also want us to have an attitude which I think most Americans do, that these are God's children and they must be taken care of."
The senator from Arizona used Cinco de Mayo as a launching pad for a new Spanish-language Web site on Monday, and he emphasized his stance on immigration and border security as he tried to court the Hispanic vote.
Republican strategists have said McCain has to do well with Hispanic voters to win in November. When President Bush was re-elected in 2004, he received 44 percent of the Hispanic vote, but that was before the divisive political debate erupted over illegal immigration.
McCain is seen as a moderate Republican when it comes to immigration reform, but the conservative base of his party has taken a hard-line approach on the issue.
In 2005, McCain angered some in his party when he and Democratic Sen. Ted Kennedy unsuccessfully pushed for a comprehensive immigration reform bill that included a path to citizenship.
McCain now says he would focus first on securing the borders before offering other ways to deal with illegal immigration.
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They already married with children.
Liar Liar Pants on Fire!
Demographically speaking, the GOP is dead.
We might win in 2008, and then maybe again in 2012, but shortly thereafter, dysgenic fertility and the demographic collapse of the USA will make it mathematically impossible for the GOP to win any elections.
Prepare accordingly.
Too bad he won’t court some conservatives....
From which side of the border?
McCain finally said something I agree with. I’m in favor of the illegal aliens being “taken care of”. In fact, I would see that they were taken care of by the end of the year, if it were up to me.
No particular nationality should get a special preference.
McCain has to work harder on this to even begin to get it right, otherwise we're simply going to think of him as just another budding caudillo who wants a nation made up of a handful of billionaire RINOs at the top and a vast army of peasant agriculturalists at the bottom.
Send out your daughters; help is on the way!
“McCain on Monday empathized with Hispanics who have been mistreated and said low-income Hispanics are often the first to lose their jobs when someone come to the United States illegally.”
Wow, he must have seen strong polling disproving the white liberal myth of Hispanics for Amnesty—and that “Hispanics” well know the cost of illegal immigration. He could pivot away from comprehensive reform/Amnesty+, but he’s locked in, dislikes the little people, and needs the business/wage depression lobby money.
Happy Cinco de Mayo!
1800 Silver, oh what a night it shall be!
Unfortunately, you are correct. Our progeny will become the new ‘transient’ labor after the corruptness of the invading elite implement the same system residing currently in Mexico.
"But they also want us to have an attitude which I think most Americans do, that these are God's children and they must be taken care of."
So John, this is your philosophy of government? It's there to take care of us?
Well, he is a socialist, after all.
Well, we’ve had a compassionate conservative, why not a socialist conservative.
“that these are God’s children and they must be taken care of.”
Not by the government and its handouts. Read your Bible Johnny widows and orphans. Everyone else should be good stewards by working and they can work in their own country and if things are that bad then do what we did in 1776.
The only Hispanics who may vote GOP are those who have businesses here, because they have an investment. The Cubans in Florida are so GOP not just because the Fidel Castro issue, but because they are extremely entrepreneurial. Mexican-Americans are a mixed bag as are most Latin groups. Puerto Ricans, unfortunately have gone the way of identity politics, mostly because they have American citizenship and didn’t have to struggle to get it. I am not saying that Puerto Ricans don’t go into business, but not to the degree other Latino groups have.
I happen to think the best way to take care of them would be to stop providing the safety valve for Mexico to export surplus labor and encourage them to overturn their corrupt system and replace it with an American model.
This worked pretty well in Chile after Allende got his brains splattered out.
Unfortunately, it’s not just white liberals promoting the “Hispanics are for amnesty” myth. I have been told by many people here that “my kind” are “naturally pro-amnesty.” I try telling them that I’m an American first, but that thought doesn’t seem to penetrate their thick skulls.
Mexico is a bit better since the PRI has been out of power, but corruption is still rife and Mexicans still have an attraction to a caudillo (strong man) leader. That’s why having too many at one time is dangerous. The oversaturation of Mexicans or any other less than first world group prevents them from not only learning the language and general culture—but also the political/civic culture of the USA. Those who are attracted to a caudillo style government make it easier for fascists/socialists to take power.
Sure, he thinks all the conservatives will vote for him, lock, stock and barrel like good little amigos.....you know if we don’t will get Hilliary or Barry!
Not this mamacita!!!!
Ah, proving my point. I’m Hispanic, don’t own a capitalist business (but I do work for one), and somehow I still vote conservative. Just because my hair and eyes are a little darker doesn’t mean I somehow stop being concerned about high taxes or Islamic terrorism or anti-gun buffoons - or the problems caused by illegal immigrants.
The Caucasian “Hispanics” who fled Castro bear no resemblance whatsoever [either genetically or culturally] to the Mestizo/Aboriginal “Hispanics” of Mexico [and Guatemala, etc] who are flooding our southern border by the tens of millions.
“McCain courts Hispanic voters”
WTH else must he do? Take a taco up the wazoo?
If fences don’t keep the “unwanted” out why is there one around the White House? Hmmmmmm?
I happen to be a female hispanic Republican who came to this country legally...and fully support the wall and other measures that will re-inforce the laws we have now. The one thing we need is to put more money into INS to expedite the process...INS (like every other government funded organization) is underfunded and understaffed causing a tremendous backlog. I just did a piece last week on my blog Rightupfront.org entitled “Diary of a Mad Brown Woman” explaining the need for the fence and discussing immigration in general.
In most years 40% of the “illegals” entered the country legally and either overstayed a shopping visit, visa and so forth.
I just heard this clip on FNC. He clearly intends to install amnesty (he calls it “guest worker” but we know it’s amnesty) and he says after borders are secure, but I really don’t trust him).
Clearly, since I just cannot in good conscience sit back and allow Hillary or Obama to just march into the White House, I will vote for him.
It seems the only alternative we have is to work darn hard to get Conservatives in the House and Senate. If we could pull some upsets in these races and show them that illegal immigration made the difference perhaps we can hold their feet to the fire in Congress to stop any crazy proposals McCain makes. Perhaps we can get enough in there to at least stall it for 2 years until we have a chance to get some more Conservatives in.
That sounds uncomfortably like how the Nazis justified their alliance with Japan, by calling them "Yellow Aryans."
Whatever.
Look, if you're 60 years old or younger, then you will live to see the collapse of the USA, and if, in the ensuing chaos, you and I discover that we're sharing the same foxhole, then you can apologize for calling me a Nazi back in 2008.
But, in the meantime, I'll try not to hold it against you.
If conservatives had been more reliable in 2006, maybe he would. Now, Republicans will simply ignore conservatives and court Hispanics and moderates.
He didn’t call you a Nazi, he pointed out a similarity between your way of thinking and the Nazis’ way of thinking.
Anyway, your comments are pretty disturbing. My own mother was one of those mestizos you refer to as undesirable. She was born in Mexico, immigrated to the United States legally, and became a patriotic U.S. citizen. And she’s more conservative than my McCain-supporting white father.
Your “darkie minorities are all liberals” BS seems like something out of either Stormfront or the DNC.
What in particular is "disturbing" about my comments?
Your “Caucasians good, Mestizos/Aboriginals bad” comment in post 24.
I never said one was "bad" or one was "good" - I said that they "bear no resemblance" to one another ["either genetically or culturally"].
Who really cares?
They are criminals.
They commit a misdeameanor when they cross the border and felonies when they acquire a fake ID, and for every instance of using that fake ID to secure employment or health services.
That is what matters, not somebody’s description of their ancestry.
Oh, trust me, SoConPubbie, unless you're about 85 or 90 years old, then you WILL live to regret the fact that there was once a period in your life when you didn't care [or at least pretended not to care] about their ancestry.
But it's all a moot point, anyway - the great, epochal demographic gears of disaster have been set in motion, and it's only a matter of time now before the USA falls apart at the seams.
So get yourself some popcorn, and plenty of ammunition, and sit back and enjoy the chaos as it unfolds.
Oh, you will care.
You will.
McCain courts everyone except regular middle class and working class American conservatives. Us, he spits on.
The majority of hispanics in the country are not here illegally. Therefore reaching out to them is not pandering to illegals.
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