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Diabetes May Be Disorder Of Upper Intestine: (Obesity)Surgery May Correct It
Science Daily ^ | March 6, 2008

Posted on 05/05/2008 10:41:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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I had heard something about this on TV the other day. Wow!
1 posted on 05/05/2008 10:44:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tag for later reading...


2 posted on 05/05/2008 10:53:56 PM PDT by Uriah_lost (This space reserved for a decent candidate,,,lemme know when we get one.)
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There will be a cure for type two diabetes in the next 20-30 years.


3 posted on 05/05/2008 10:55:41 PM PDT by TheConservator ("I spent my life trying not to be careless. Women and children can be careless, but not men.")
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"It has become clear, however, that BMI cut-offs can no longer be used to determine who is an ideal candidate for surgical treatment of diabetes," says Dr. Rubino.

Translation: "It has become clear I can make much more money doing this surgery on more than just the obese."

Surgery is not the best answer to diabetes, or even one that will work long term. Exercise and diet are the best answers.

4 posted on 05/05/2008 10:57:34 PM PDT by apt4truth
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"There will be a cure for type two diabetes in the next 20-30 years."

I'm sure someone said that 20-30 years ago.

5 posted on 05/05/2008 10:58:29 PM PDT by apt4truth
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The dudodenum is where the majority of absorbtion of nutirents takes place. The surgery might "cure" diabetes but you will need to be on pills and shots for the rest of your ife.

I can cure athlete's foot by cutting off your feet, but there is a sollution outside of surgery.

6 posted on 05/05/2008 11:02:52 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: apt4truth

Now, if we could only cure illiteracy.


7 posted on 05/05/2008 11:08:08 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: apt4truth

How can you say that? Long term outcome with management is about the same as ignoring it, from what I have read.


8 posted on 05/05/2008 11:12:16 PM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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>”The dudodenum is where the majority of absorbtion of nutirents takes place”< ——
Really, what’s the other 20 odd feet there for? My understanding of its function is a little more like this:

The duodenum is largely responsible for the breakdown of food in the small intestine. Brunner’s glands, which secrete mucus, are found in the duodenum. The duodenum wall is composed of a very thin layer of cells that form the muscularis mucosae.
The duodenum also regulates the rate of emptying of the stomach via hormonal pathways. Secretin and cholecystokinin are released from cells in the duodenal epithelium in response to acidic and fatty stimuli present there when the pyloris opens and releases gastric chyme into the duodenum for further digestion. These cause the liver and gall bladder to release bile, and the pancreas to release bicarbonate and digestive enzymes such as trypsin, lipase and amylase into the duodenum as they are needed.


9 posted on 05/05/2008 11:12:22 PM PDT by Uriah_lost (This space reserved for a decent candidate,,,lemme know when we get one.)
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To: apt4truth

...and if you travel faster than 20mph all the air will be forced from the vehicle and you will suffocate. Its scientific fact (or was).


10 posted on 05/05/2008 11:14:48 PM PDT by Uriah_lost (This space reserved for a decent candidate,,,lemme know when we get one.)
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I had a gut feeling about this!
11 posted on 05/05/2008 11:24:11 PM PDT by ME-262 (Nancy Pelosi is known to the state of CA to render Viagra ineffective causing reproductive harm.)
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BTTT


12 posted on 05/05/2008 11:30:49 PM PDT by snowtigger (It ain't what you shoot, it's what you hit...)
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To: ME-262

Judging by your screen name, perhaps you “Swallowed” something.


13 posted on 05/05/2008 11:33:43 PM PDT by Uriah_lost (This space reserved for a decent candidate,,,lemme know when we get one.)
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Perhaps there is kraut in my craw.
14 posted on 05/05/2008 11:39:29 PM PDT by ME-262 (Nancy Pelosi is known to the state of CA to render Viagra ineffective causing reproductive harm.)
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To: apt4truth

I’ve noticed how people tend to stress on the main functions of body organs, while ignoring minute, hitherto-unknown ones. Doctors are ready to lop off parts of the intestine, looking at them as if they are some sort of plumbing inside the body, and just that.

For long, they said the appendix was a useless vestigal organ, until it was found recently that it provides a reserve for probiotic agents.


15 posted on 05/05/2008 11:45:08 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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Those vestigial organs aren't what they're not cracked up to be!

The Reasoning of Fools:

If I don't know the purpose of a thing, it must not have one.

If I don't know the answer, it must be unknowable.

If I can't do it, it must be impossible.

All of the scientific theories we believe today are correct.

16 posted on 05/05/2008 11:58:11 PM PDT by ME-262 (Nancy Pelosi is known to the state of CA to render Viagra ineffective causing reproductive harm.)
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In fact, bypass of the upper small intestine does not improve the ability of the body to regulate blood sugar levels. "When performed in subjects who are not diabetic, the bypass of the upper intestine may even impair the mechanisms that regulate blood levels of glucose," says Dr. Rubino. In striking contrast, when nutrients' passage is diverted from the upper intestine of diabetic patients, diabetes resolves.

My Dad had a variation of this surgery. Actually, he had a bile duct bypass done 40 years ago for a choledochal cyst, by a competent surgeon at Mayo.

A few years ago, a new surgeon convinced him that they could "further reduce his risk of cancer with this great new surgery." At the time of this surgery, he was perfectly healthy; his problems from childhood with the cysts had been cured for years...but the surgeon terrified him with the prospect that he might be at risk for cancer. They performed a roux en y hepaticojejunostomy.

He nearly immediately developed diabetes (he did not have it prior to the surgery) as mentioned in the paragraph above...that theory appears to be correct.

Several years later, he developed adenocarcinoma of the bile ducts in his liver; and died three months after diagnosis.

I'm just saying: you had better have a VERY extreme case of Type II Diabetes, that has demonstrated itself completely uncontrollable with the normal treatment, before this type of drastic measure is recommended for a patient. The infection rate is rather high, I believe. I know that my Dad had back-up into his liver after surgery, and ended up spending three weeks in the hospital with a liver abscess.

The surgery itself is brutal...even when performed on a healthy person. I realize it is not exactly the same situation or procedure...but for goodness sake...it seems like total overkill; with a bunch of unknown future risks.

I do find it interesting that they may have found some "cause" in that area of the body for diabetes. Perhaps they can devise a less invasive treatment.

17 posted on 05/06/2008 12:06:30 AM PDT by garandgal
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family friend had a daughter die from gastric bypass few months ago


18 posted on 05/06/2008 1:00:16 AM PDT by Mount Athos (if water boarding was a sexual preference, they'd be teaching it in public schools)
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Zing for later


19 posted on 05/06/2008 1:19:58 AM PDT by BossLady ("People will do anything, no matter how absurd, in order to avoid facing their own soul" - Carl Jung)
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To: LukeL

I can cure athlete’s foot by cutting off your feet, but there is a sollution outside of surgery.


I’ll take the non-surgical approach for my headache please.


20 posted on 05/06/2008 1:41:45 AM PDT by kenth (I have a apolitical blues)
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