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Dartmouth Prof To Sue Her Students?
Constitution Club ^ | Tuesday, May 06, 2008 | The Hairy Beast

Posted on 05/06/2008 9:14:19 AM PDT by Mongeaux

From the Wall Street Journal:

Often it seems as though American higher education exists only to provide gag material for the outside world. The latest spectacle is an Ivy League professor threatening to sue her students because, she claims, their “anti-intellectualism” violated her civil rights.

Priya Venkatesan taught English at Dartmouth College. She maintains that some of her students were so unreceptive of “French narrative theory” that it amounted to a hostile working environment. She is also readying lawsuits against her superiors, who she says papered over the harassment, as well as a confessional exposé, which she promises will “name names.”

What were the student’s sins? They questioned some of her assertions in class!

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It's hard to defend the indefensible, but you gotta wonder how a teacher who can't handle a freshman lit class is going to fare at any university.

Perhaps she needs to hide under the academic feminist bubble a while more, so she won't be troubled with any questions.

1 posted on 05/06/2008 9:14:19 AM PDT by Mongeaux
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To: Mongeaux

This really gives me some hope that our culture isn’t lost after all.


2 posted on 05/06/2008 9:16:31 AM PDT by subterfuge (Homophobic and proud of it!)
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To: Mongeaux

This may close to the ultimate in “victimology”!


3 posted on 05/06/2008 9:16:42 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: Mongeaux
“They’d argue with your ideas.”

Well, we certainly can't have that going on in academia now can we?

4 posted on 05/06/2008 9:17:32 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Mongeaux

Hmmm - men don’t really sue for rude students. But hiring men is not PC...


5 posted on 05/06/2008 9:17:55 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Mongeaux

She needs to add the parents and all previous teachers in high school to her suit.


6 posted on 05/06/2008 9:18:20 AM PDT by purpleraine
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To: Mongeaux

Priya Venkatesan

7 posted on 05/06/2008 9:20:09 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

She does have a “Deer In The Headlights” look to her.


8 posted on 05/06/2008 9:21:31 AM PDT by Mongeaux (''I would sooner be governed by the first 2,000 names in the Boston phone directory," W.F. Buckley)
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To: Mongeaux
"...Ms. Venkatesan was lecturing on “ecofeminism..."

Stopped reading right there. Jebus, Mary and Joseph. No wonder the students went crazy enough to ask her questions!

I'm a university prof and sometimes it's like pulling teeth to get the students to question what I've said. She should feel honored that her students are actually thinking about the garbage she's pushing.

9 posted on 05/06/2008 9:22:13 AM PDT by radiohead (I stood up for Fred at the Iowa Caucus. Where were the rest of you so-called conservatives?)
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"...Ms. Venkatesan was lecturing on “ecofeminism..."

Stopped reading right there. Jebus, Mary and Joseph. No wonder the students went crazy enough to ask her questions!

I'm a university prof and sometimes it's like pulling teeth to get the students to question what I've said. She should feel honored that her students are actually thinking about the garbage she's pushing.

Read the rest for a good laugh. As a college Prof you should know how the Fems use their political muscle to push their agenda within the University. They need to do this because their basic philosophy is so irrational.

Also she had a "Double Whammy" being forced to teach crit lit which is essentially "the text as propaganda". No wonder the freshmen rebelled.

10 posted on 05/06/2008 9:25:40 AM PDT by Mongeaux (''I would sooner be governed by the first 2,000 names in the Boston phone directory," W.F. Buckley)
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To: Mongeaux

Perhaps Her Ladyship, the Professor, should become a poster on FR and learn what it means to her views challenged. She might escape with a few patches of skin left intact but no guarantees.


11 posted on 05/06/2008 9:26:32 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Mongeaux
Ms. Venkatesan was lecturing on “ecofeminism,”

Ecofeminism? Priceless. LOL!

Then, after consulting a physician

Hopefully it was a shrink, she needs a good one.

12 posted on 05/06/2008 9:27:40 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: count-your-change
Perhaps Her Ladyship, the Professor, should become a poster on FR and learn what it means to her views challenged. She might escape with a few patches of skin left intact but no guarantees.

It wouldn't help. She can't defend her views because they are irrational. This is why Harvard President Larry Summers was ridden out of Cambridge on a rail. When you can't defend your views you can't allow them to be questioned.

13 posted on 05/06/2008 9:28:45 AM PDT by Mongeaux (''I would sooner be governed by the first 2,000 names in the Boston phone directory," W.F. Buckley)
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To: Mongeaux

I hope she’s not teaching any class when my daughter gets there in Sept. She can argue like a champ and never take a breath (and she’s pretty conservative for a 17 y.o.)


14 posted on 05/06/2008 9:33:35 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: Mongeaux
I had a English lit professor, who was a radical feminist. I once won an argument in class about a plot detail in a short story (she had gotten the detail wrong and therefore her analysis was wrong). When she asked me to "prove it", I underlined the passage in my book and held it up for her to see.

She said (exact quote) : "I don't have to take this!" and walked out of a classroom of 30 people.

Very professional and mature /sarc
15 posted on 05/06/2008 9:33:56 AM PDT by atomicweeder
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To: Mongeaux

She got a job using a degree in English and she’s still upset? Unbelievable! Most of her classmates are serving up fries.


16 posted on 05/06/2008 9:36:52 AM PDT by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people, socialist nannies do not become us.)
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To: Mongeaux

I hope the defendants hammer her with a Rule 11 frivolous lawsuit claim.


17 posted on 05/06/2008 9:38:58 AM PDT by joebuck (Finitum non capax infinitum!)
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To: radiohead
I'm a university prof and sometimes it's like pulling teeth to get the students to question what I've said. She should feel honored that her students are actually thinking about the garbage she's pushing.

She's a propagandist passing herself off as a professor. Real professors LONG for questions from their students. They're addicted to them, in a good way. They want the challenge, they want to be kept on their toes and they want their students to be interested in the class. Questions give the teacher hope that the students actually want to be there in the first place.

18 posted on 05/06/2008 9:39:32 AM PDT by Tamar1973 (Catch the Korean Wave, one Bae Yong Joon film at a time!)
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The poor victim. It's not her fault that she can't teach!
19 posted on 05/06/2008 9:40:58 AM PDT by Sleeping Freeper
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To: Mongeaux

You can’t fix stupid!


20 posted on 05/06/2008 9:41:21 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: Mongeaux
“Scientific facts do not correspond to a natural reality but conform to a social construct.”
Except for Man Made Global Warming. Now THAT'S some ROCK SOLID SCIENCE!

All the rest... well that's just so much social construct HOGWASH to your good ole', down-home leftist.

But Man Made Global Warming... well that's not just SCIENCE, you understand, that's ANTI-CAPITALISM, and that makes it CORRECT BY DEFINITION.

21 posted on 05/06/2008 9:41:41 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Mongeaux

Does it create a “hostile environment” to “question authority”?


22 posted on 05/06/2008 9:43:53 AM PDT by weegee (Just say NO to Marxism.)
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To: radiohead

There are also several books available linking the eating of meat to the oppression of women.


23 posted on 05/06/2008 9:45:40 AM PDT by weegee (Just say NO to Marxism.)
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To: joebuck

Or countersue for ‘educational malpractice’ or ‘fraud’...


24 posted on 05/06/2008 9:49:38 AM PDT by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
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To: Mongeaux

Ms. Venkatesan informed her pupils that their behavior was “fascist demagoguery.”

There we have it, people! Now we know how to get rid of ultraliberal professors — become Fascist demagogues.

I’m game. You?


25 posted on 05/06/2008 9:50:39 AM PDT by Flycatcher (Strong copy for a strong America)
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To: Flycatcher
Ms. Venkatesan informed her pupils that their behavior was “fascist demagoguery.”

There we have it, people! Now we know how to get rid of ultraliberal professors — become Fascist demagogues.

I’m game. You?

Physician heal thyself.

26 posted on 05/06/2008 9:52:14 AM PDT by Mongeaux (''I would sooner be governed by the first 2,000 names in the Boston phone directory," W.F. Buckley)
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To: Mongeaux

If I were the students, I’d sue my parents for sending me to a hugely overrated, radical Leftist, Ivy League hellhole.


27 posted on 05/06/2008 9:52:28 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: Mongeaux

I’ve had my share of loser professors over the last 20+ years of “higher learning” . . . but this woman would take the prize of Loser Number One!


28 posted on 05/06/2008 9:54:46 AM PDT by DesertSapper (God, Family, Country . . . . . . . . . . and dead terrorists!!!)
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To: Mongeaux

I recall Larry Summers’ leaving but don’t remember what he said that was so troublesome.


29 posted on 05/06/2008 9:55:27 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Mongeaux

“Scientific facts do not correspond to a natural reality but conform to a social construct.”

If she were talking about global warming, I’d agree with her.


30 posted on 05/06/2008 9:56:36 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

Yikes! Feminism really did come about so that ugly women could get jobs!


31 posted on 05/06/2008 9:57:22 AM PDT by airborne (LETS GO PENS!!! LETS GO PENS!!! LETS GO PENS!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!)
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To: Mongeaux
Time for the parents to sue the Ivies for the outrageous tuitions they are charging for this type of faux intellectualism. And I admire the caliber of students in the Dartmouth freshman class. Most kids just roll their eyes and hunker down for the duration. Bravo!
32 posted on 05/06/2008 9:58:21 AM PDT by 308am
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To: CarrotAndStick

Shouldn’t she be teaching the Pakastan language?


33 posted on 05/06/2008 9:58:23 AM PDT by Cpl. Dwayne Hicks
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To: Mongeaux

I’m on your side, Mongeaux. By “you” I meant “you all.”

To get rid of liberal professors, what conservative wouldn’t want to wear the mantle of “Fascist demogogue,” if only for one class. I’m already considered a barbarian, a Neanderthal, and a global warming denier, so how is “Fascist demogogue” going to hurt me?


34 posted on 05/06/2008 9:59:14 AM PDT by Flycatcher (Strong copy for a strong America)
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To: Cailleach

ping


35 posted on 05/06/2008 10:01:03 AM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: atomicweeder
She said (exact quote) : "I don't have to take this!" and walked out of a classroom of 30 people.

"Facts" are a patriarchal construct, so it was sexist of you to spoil her brilliant analysis with such underhanded tactics. ;)

36 posted on 05/06/2008 10:01:12 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: atomicweeder

I had to do a bluebook a long time ago in Lit and one of the things I had to ‘analyze’ was a “brown study”; having not read the book, I filled many pages analyzing the construction of what was obviously B.S. from the back end of a horse but got a B anyway for ‘creativity’.


37 posted on 05/06/2008 10:02:23 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Mongeaux

I bet she drives a “Priyas”.......


38 posted on 05/06/2008 10:03:54 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: ontap

No, but a shot of Haldol in the butt sure could help!


39 posted on 05/06/2008 10:05:41 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am very mad at Disney. Give me my James Marsden song!!!!!)
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To: Flycatcher
I’m on your side, Mongeaux. By “you” I meant “you all.”

Oh no I understand, the comment was not aimed at you, but at her.

40 posted on 05/06/2008 10:09:15 AM PDT by Mongeaux (''I would sooner be governed by the first 2,000 names in the Boston phone directory," W.F. Buckley)
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To: Mongeaux

The confusion was caused by my “newbiness.” I quoted from your source story, then commented on it. However, I don’t (yet) know how to put the quoted source in italics.

Help! How do you do it?


41 posted on 05/06/2008 10:13:09 AM PDT by Flycatcher (Strong copy for a strong America)
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To: atomicweeder

“When she asked me to “prove it”, I underlined the passage in my book and held it up for her to see. “

It isn’t about facts, it is about feelings. Facts are utterly meaningless if you simply choose not to accept them. Aren’t libs a hoot?


42 posted on 05/06/2008 10:17:33 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Ask me again tomorrow.)
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To: Mongeaux

Hmmm. I was a Marxist my senior year of college back in 1988. I had a professor who was an immigrant from the Soviet Union. As you might guess, he didn’t think much of planned economies and didn’t think worker-owned firms could be successful. I questioned him a great deal and did research to prove him wrong. I nitpicked and was often very assertive. He always answered my questions and seemed to delight in the challenge.

Years later, after being out in the working world, I told him he was right about everything. To this day, he was my favorite professor.


43 posted on 05/06/2008 10:18:10 AM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: Mongeaux
This womyn is a definitely a member, if not a founder, of The Illiterati. The following is an excerpt from an interview printed in the Dartmouth Review. I can hardly believe that an “English Professor” is so incoherent and inelegant of speech.

If one is unable to think and speak clearly, and in an orderly fashion, one can not write in a clear, orderly manner; and if one is not able to do these basic things, one certainly can not effectively teach clear, orderly, concise writing skills.



TDR: Moving on to the issue at hand, could you comment on Tom Cormen [Chairman of Dartmouth's Writing Program]?

PV: Sure, I am like, I really have a lot of work right now, I have two book manuscripts to work on, that doesn’t even include the manuscript about my life in higher education, I have two grants to work on, I have an article to work on, I have three articles to work on, I really have so much work to do and you would not even believe, I really have a lot of work to do. I am not the kind of person who wants to make a big fuss about petty or trivial things. So, I have a lot of things to do that I could be focusing my attention on in very productive ways.

TDR: I can understand that. If you like, I can just ask you a different question if you want.

PV: To your question, Tom Cormen was consistently rude to me and he was very unsupportive of my teaching in the Writing Program. I am perplexed as to why he would give me an offer to teach four sections in the Writing Program and then show absolutely no support, no professional support, and I wasn’t even looking for personal support, no professional support or guidance, and trying to do my best job to be a writing instructor. Now to give you the background, I taught writing in my graduate school at the University of California San Diego. I was what they call a teaching assistant. The students get graded by teaching-assistants in the research universities, not like Dartmouth where the professors grade the students. I was a teaching assistant at the University of San Diego, and I have three teaching evaluations. They were all spectacular. They were all spectacular. They were all positive. I could fax them to you. I don’t mind, I could honestly fax them to you, but no professional support or guidance from the beginning. But, I was confident in my ability to teach expository writing, so I went about it with very little support or direction from the department. That is, in itself, very unusual to have a writing program that does not have a structured orientation program for its new writing staff. Very, very extraordinary. Very out of the ordinary. Very unusual.

44 posted on 05/06/2008 10:20:04 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: Mongeaux

Someone call the waaaaaaaambulance!


45 posted on 05/06/2008 10:25:05 AM PDT by fungoking
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To: Mongeaux

She looks kind of, if you’ll excuse the expression, well, FAT. Maybe if she’d drop a few pounds she might snare a husband. :)


46 posted on 05/06/2008 10:25:48 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Bible toting, bitter and armed with slashing sarcasm.)
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To: count-your-change

He had the nerve to present data which did not fit a PC agenda and then asked for further scientific inquiry rather than dismissing it in an angry marxist diatribe. He was guilty of linear western male thinking.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2005/01/17/summers_remarks_on_women_draw_fire/


47 posted on 05/06/2008 10:27:43 AM PDT by posterchild ("Congress does two things very well: one is nothing and two is overreact." - Rep. Tom Price, R-Ga)
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To: Mongeaux

No, it’s the “I’m a bitter bitch” look.


48 posted on 05/06/2008 10:29:49 AM PDT by Skenderbej
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To: count-your-change
Larry Summers pointed out that perhaps the reason why there are more men in research positions at elite Universities is that men tend to occupy both the high end and the low end of intelligence tests results, while women tend towards the middle. The low end men don't tend to get graduate degrees and the men at the high end tend to take jobs in technical fields like the Natural Sciences. So perhaps the reason that the ‘best and brightest’ among Scientists is mostly men has something to do with the above facts rather than it being indicative of institutionalized gender bias.

According to Feminazi’s it is ALL due to gender bias, therefore for his heresy Larry Summers was ridden out on a rail.

49 posted on 05/06/2008 10:29:50 AM PDT by allmendream (Life begins at the moment of contraception. ;))
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To: ApplegateRanch
Now to give you the background, I taught writing in my graduate school at the University of California San Diego

I was a teaching assistant at the University of San Diego, and I have three teaching evaluations. They were all spectacular.

That's the problem right there: UCSD Vs. Dartmouth? She was way out of her academic/writing depth!

Of course, as a NH resident I might be biased...

50 posted on 05/06/2008 10:31:23 AM PDT by Mongeaux (''I would sooner be governed by the first 2,000 names in the Boston phone directory," W.F. Buckley)
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