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Liberals' new cause: Religious extremism
The Politico ^ | May 6, 2008 | JAMES KIRCHICK

Posted on 05/07/2008 6:51:23 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

Open the pages of a liberal magazine or peruse the liberal blogosphere, and you’re bound to come across denunciations of the religious right, if not religion itself. The “reality-based community,” as self-satisfied liberal bloggers call themselves, was a term created in direct response to the “faith-based community,” what the Bush administration called recipients of money from its Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives. Given the religious right’s use of “faith” to justify hoaxes such as “intelligent design” and the ruinous attempt to convert homosexuals into heterosexuals, the left had good reason to criticize, and sometimes mock, the absurdities that are the inevitable result of religion mixing with politics.

Yet the left, with its healthy skepticism toward religion, has shown itself to be cynically flexible over the past few weeks in response to the utter insanities emitted from the big mouth of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Sen. Barack Obama’s pastor, mentor and friend of 20 years. Suddenly, some liberals have discovered a newfound love for extremists who hide behind the cloth to justify their radical views.

The lunatic remarks made by Wright in videotaped sermons released in March — which, lest there be any doubt that these pearls of wisdom were taken “out of context,” Wright reaffirmed at the National Press Club last week — are indefensible, and it is beyond pedantry to quibble over whether a spirited defense of Louis Farrakhan is more or less offensive than blaming abortion doctors and gays for Sept. 11, 2001, as Jerry Falwell infamously did two days after the terrorist attacks.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antichristian; jeremiahwright; liberals; religion; religiousintolerance; religiousleft

1 posted on 05/07/2008 6:51:24 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Changing Tagline.


2 posted on 05/07/2008 6:52:35 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Individualism is the Perfection of Diversity.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

This article is crap, vomited from the liberal mouthpiece of the Politico.

They employ Jim VandenHei for Pete’s sake.

Sheesh!


3 posted on 05/07/2008 6:55:24 AM PDT by sauropod (Forgive me Gore, for I have emitted.)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Modern Liberalism is a religion. A religion that worships the earth and practices child sacrifice. It is a very, very intolerant religion and is bent on establishing a liberal theocracy in this country.
4 posted on 05/07/2008 6:55:47 AM PDT by rwlawrence
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Given the religious right’s use of “faith” to justify hoaxes such as “intelligent design” and the ruinous attempt to convert homosexuals into heterosexuals, the left had good reason to criticize, and sometimes mock, the absurdities that are the inevitable result of religion mixing with politics.

"Intelligent Design" does not use "faith" to perpetrate a "hoax", but in a spirit of free inquiry merely raises questions for the scientific method to try and answer about the origins of life and the universe (free inquiry should be what scientific research is supposed to be about, isn't it?). Also, not all religions call those with deep seated homosexual inclinations to try and change their orientation (although certainly those that want to try to do that should be free to attempt it). The Catholic Church, for example, asks those with this condition to live chastely.

5 posted on 05/07/2008 6:57:00 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
the religious right

As opposed to the Atheists Left?

6 posted on 05/07/2008 6:57:02 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: sauropod
I don't know--the author has some good points:

But in the warped minds of some on the left, uttering such inanities is not only “understandable,” it’s laudable. That is, of course, if the person alleging that the government created AIDS to kill African-Americans is an aggrieved black man lashing out at the rapacious, capitalist and irredeemably racist United States.

--snip--

Wright attacks capitalism throughout his sermons, an odd ideological target for a man who reportedly drives a Porsche and whose grateful congregants are building him a $1 million, four-garage home in a predominantly white suburb of Chicago (so much for being “unapologetically black”). He has also praised Cuba’s Fidel Castro and Libya’s Muammar al-Qadhafi. So it’s really no wonder that a huckster such as Wright has emerged as some sort of “reality-based community” folk hero. The political left finds common cause with the religious left and is apparently willing to overlook exactly the sort of racist sectarianism that it would be so quick to condemn were its perpetrator a white conservative.
7 posted on 05/07/2008 6:58:21 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Rush on McCain: "We're so screwed.")
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

First they went after speech with Political Correctness and now they are going after religion.


8 posted on 05/07/2008 7:00:56 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
the author has some good points

Yes, he does.

9 posted on 05/07/2008 7:04:23 AM PDT by browardchad ("We are all mavericks now." -- Rush Limbaugh)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
From "45 Communist Goals":
#27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion.
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

Obama's Church: Gospel of Hate
Kathy Shaidle
FrontPageMag.com
Monday, April 07, 2008

In March of 2007, FOX News host Sean Hannity had engaged Obama’s pastor in a heated interview about his Church’s teachings. For many viewers, the ensuing shouting match was their first exposure to "Black Liberation Theology"...

Like the pro-communist Liberation Theology that swept Central America in the 1980s and was repeatedly condemned by Pope John Paul II, Black Liberation Theology combines warmed-over 1960s vintage Marxism with carefully distorted biblical passages. However, in contrast to traditional Marxism, it emphasizes race rather than class. The Christian notion of "salvation" in the afterlife is superseded by "liberation" on earth, courtesy of the establishment of a socialist utopia.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=30CD9E14-B0C9-4F8C-A0A6-A896F0F44F02

"God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11"
--Rev Dr. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's pastor for twenty years

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Obama the "transformer"

Louis Farrakhan, at the annual Saviours' Day celebration in Chicago, Feb. 25, 2008: "This young man is the hope of the entire world that America will change and be made better"..."If you look at Barack Obama's audiences and look at the effect of his words, those people are being transformed."
Source: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=4337417

Louis Farrakhan, at the Millions More Movement rally in DC, Oct 15, 2005: "...what Mao Tse Tung did was, he went to the cultural community, and they [Farrakhan spreads his arms beneficently] accepted his idea."..."Mao Tse Tung ... had a billion people whose lives he had to transform."..."the idea of Mao Tse Tung became the idea of a billion people, and China became a world power on the base of the culture and the arts community. If we had a ministry of art and culture in every city we'd create this movement
[in the U.S.]."
Source: http://thedrunkablog.blogspot.com/2005/10/communist-plot-noted.html

Louis Farrakhan, Santiago de Cuba, February, 1998: "There is not a member of the black masses in the United States who is not proud of the example set by Cuba and its revolution, with Comandante Fidel at its head"
Source: http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/farakhan21898.html#says

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Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Obama's "spirtual advisor" "crazy uncle" of more than 20 years, honors "Honorable" Minister Louis Farrakhan with the "Jeremiah A. Wright Lifetime Achievement Trumpeteer Award" at the 2007 Trumpet Gala held at the Hyatt Regency Chicago.
[it appears the original video was removed, but this one is identical to it]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW2OhkZ0RSg

From "45 Communist Goals":
#27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion.
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

10 posted on 05/07/2008 7:06:24 AM PDT by Eye On The Left
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Relativism vs. absolute moral values.

With the relativists, anything can be rationalized. Rationalizing is simple when you don’t have any values that mean anything.

This has been going on for so long in America that I doubt it can turned around.


11 posted on 05/07/2008 7:09:44 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Wright . . . a man who reportedly drives a Porsche and whose grateful congregants are building him a $1 million, four-garage home in a predominantly white suburb of Chicago

While researching Rev Wright on the internet, I came across one of his newsletters where he commented on the bourgeois blacks in Chicago. Liberals - they always become what they hate.

12 posted on 05/07/2008 7:22:27 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

...But they engender Islam...


13 posted on 05/07/2008 7:24:34 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Eye On The Left
Louis Farrakhan, at the annual Saviours' Day celebration

I wonder what "Saviours" Farrakhan is celebrating?
14 posted on 05/07/2008 7:29:46 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Rush on McCain: "We're so screwed.")
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To: RexBeach

There is a growing group of educators that are banding together to fight the postmodernist view that truth is relative.

I was at a conference with some of that group a couple of weekends ago.

Christian homeschoolers. Big families, strong values.


15 posted on 05/07/2008 7:39:08 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

The Left never denounces Islamic Imperialism, Islamic Fundamentalism, or Islamic Tyranny.

They, in fact, denounce efforts to spread more diverse faiths to what are declared “muslim lands” by Islamic supremacists. “That’s violating their religious soverignty”.

Don’t expect consistency from the Left. They are against Western Culture. They will side with any fellow travellers who seek to tear down “the establishment”.


16 posted on 05/07/2008 7:53:05 AM PDT by weegee ("I didn't kill innocent people." - Bill Ayers, Weatherman. Terrorist. Obama's comrade.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

But Islam and “black liberation seperatism” always get a pass, don’t they?


17 posted on 05/07/2008 8:01:19 AM PDT by Califreak (Hangin' with Hunter-under the bus "Dread and Circuses")
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To: MrB

Good for them and thank God!


18 posted on 05/07/2008 8:02:44 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
I wonder what "Saviours" Farrakhan is celebrating?

Mao, Castro and Obama?

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Louis Farrakhan, at the annual Saviours' Day celebration in Chicago, Feb. 25, 2008: "This young man is the hope of the entire world that America will change and be made better"..."If you look at Barack Obama's audiences and look at the effect of his words, those people are being transformed."
Source: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=4337417

Louis Farrakhan, at the Millions More Movement rally in DC, Oct 15, 2005: "...what Mao Tse Tung did was, he went to the cultural community, and they [Farrakhan spreads his arms beneficently] accepted his idea."..."Mao Tse Tung ... had a billion people whose lives he had to transform."..."the idea of Mao Tse Tung became the idea of a billion people, and China became a world power on the base of the culture and the arts community. If we had a ministry of art and culture in every city we'd create this movement
[in the U.S.]."
Source: http://thedrunkablog.blogspot.com/2005/10/communist-plot-noted.html

Louis Farrakhan, Santiago de Cuba, February, 1998: "There is not a member of the black masses in the United States who is not proud of the example set by Cuba and its revolution, with Comandante Fidel at its head"
Source: http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/farakhan21898.html#says

_________________________________________________________

From "45 Communist Goals":
#27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion.
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

19 posted on 05/07/2008 8:10:12 AM PDT by Eye On The Left
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To: Puppage

Godless Communists


20 posted on 05/07/2008 8:14:20 AM PDT by weegee ("I didn't kill innocent people." - Bill Ayers, Weatherman. Terrorist. Obama's comrade.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Inanity and fanaticism are the minority human condition.

They are the province of weak people, who are found everywhere. Their philosophies, religions, or lack thereof, just add coloration to the inanity and fanaticism of weak people.

The coloration matters, because it can turn the inane true believer into a murderous and destructive monster, or it can help defuse this potential into relatively harmless endeavors. The one thing it cannot do is to make them strong, and they shall remain weak.

So the best that can be hoped for is that people whose spirits are troubled, keep those struggles in the realm of the spirit, and not try to bring them to life in the world.

And while realizations are always personal, people should be helped to understand that their pain will not be lessened by inflicting pain on others; that they will not be enriched by impoverishing others; and that their spiritual journey is for them alone, not for others who always follow a different path, even if it is for a time runs parallel.

What is treasure to them, may be trash to others. And that there is enough joy, health, wealth, challenge, knowledge, and life for all.

The sorriest of people are those who cannot enjoy life unless others can somehow be prevented from enjoying life as well. Their food tastes bad unless others have no food.

It has been said that if heaven could ask us to change anything in out lives, it would ask us to “stop suffering”. Because while pain is natural, people suffer by choice. It is the twin of greed, the only two infinite sins. People can be infinitely greedy, and they can suffer over nothing at all.

Importantly, the majority is in the realm of the true conservative. For they seek change within themselves far more than they do in others, unless those others would impose themselves in the first place.

If religious, they offer their religion freely, but do not seek to impose it on others. If non-religious, they are not troubled by the practice of religion, if no effort is made to impose it on them.

The conservative seeks both balance and their own purpose in their life, not expecting perfection or direction; and assume that their own efforts will provide their own rewards, not to demand that others provide for them.

They expect to neither impose on others, or that others should impose on them. So they are neither inane nor fanatical. Fortunately they are the majority.


21 posted on 05/07/2008 8:15:08 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

a homosexual author to attack all substantive religion.

This is just a stunt to try and correlate the Pope with Rev. Wright.

Sombody remind me again of the left wing origins of Politico?


22 posted on 05/07/2008 8:47:16 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: sneakers

bttt


23 posted on 05/07/2008 10:57:03 AM PDT by sneakers (Liberty is the answer to the human condition.)
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