Leave Hillary Alone!
Posted on 05/07/2008 9:35:16 AM PDT by illiac
Developing story on Drudge. No details as of yet.
Superdelegates do not want to meet with Clinton today.
(Excerpt) Read more at drudgereport.com ...
Don't ya hate it when that happens.
Yeah, that stench of failure is awful hard to dry-clean out of their suits...
}:-)4
I thought I heard shrieking this morning. It wasn’t the bobcats on the mountain with me, it was Hill!
Well, Rush Windbagough will meet with her to discuss their next steps together!
Hillary’s so rough and tough. She pulled out of her scheduled appearances on the Today Show, Good Morning America, etc. this morning. Why? Is she afraid of getting asked questions about where her campaign goes from here, her plans for campaigning, etc? Is she afraid of Diane Sawyer asking her questions about the status of the campaign????
Probably because Super Delegates can Add and Subtract - Unlike her High-School Drop-Out Supporters:
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/default.aspx
*** The new math: Another thing that last night did was kill the Clinton’s campaign’s two best talking points. First, the popular vote: After last night, Obama now leads Clinton by more than 700,000 (16,050,924 vs. 15,336,896). When you include Florida, Obama leads by 419,256, and when you include both Florida and Michigan (and don’t give Obama “uncommitted”), his lead is 90,947. And here’s what’s left in our pop vote simulator
Total votes Clinton Obama Split
WV: 400,000 240,000 160,000 60-40
KY: 500,000 300,000 200,000 60-40
OR: 600,000 270,000 330,000 45-55
SD: 100,000 45,000 55,000 45-55
MT: 125,000 56,250 68,750 45-55
Totals 911,250 813,750
Under this scenario, Clinton will net 97,500 in the remaining contests. So Clinton can win the popular vote if you count Florida and Michigan, but it’ll be close and it’s just as likely with a bigger than expected win for Obama in Oregon that he can actually win the popular vote even with netting ZERO votes out of Michigan. This shows just how massive both turnout was in North Carolina and the margin of Obama’s victory was in the state. Once again, he shows that when he wins a state, he wins big.
Who has the gravitas to tell the Clintons that the race is over? Does any Democrat have that status?
Super delegates don’t want to meet because they don’t want to hear the latest spin about how the Clintons are going to pull this out.
That is really the only card she has left.
The longer Rush can keep that corpse propped up the better.
My 18 year old daughter—voted for first time!—were watching Hill’s post-mortem late last night.
td jr. said, “If she says the words ‘gas prices’ one more time, I’m gonna puke.”
That’s my girl!
Re your comment, if Willie tells her, he’d better be wearing a helmet . . . ;^)
Can we blame them for turning their backs on her? Her target voters have been the elderly white uneducated. I guess when you’re considered stupid the person using you assumes your too stupid to see the insult in being lumped into that category. It’s a nice way of saying.. I’ve got the support of Old stupid white america LMAO
Now there’s a ticket to the whitehouse everyone wants to get behind. NEXT! I think I’m smelling a concession from a Clinton and she just doesn’t know how to do it so she may have cut off her media events to run to Betty Ford to find a quick 12 step plan of acceptance over all this. Must be so hard to be a Clinton this morning and taste defeat.
Maybe they felt a little uncomfortable about the Fort Marcy suggested venue.
Superdelegates also reportedly avoiding bad oysters, thumbs-in-the-eye, and syphilis.
Humpty Dumpty Hillary Hillary Had A Great Fall..........
I too have been watching for a concession. She is keeping her campaign alive with her own money (where did the 30 million go after the last primary?)
Or do we dare ask?
I didn’t think they would appreciate death threats after all.
Am thinking it’s time for a thread.. Bets on Hillary’s Dropout Date..
Hillary’s bringing a date to the dropout?
I got ten bucks says it’s her Saudi galpal.
Hillary comes across as being so tough and nasty, that it’s hard to conceive of a gracious concession from her. The Clintons are not good losers. See if enough super delegates declare and make it all a moot point. Maybe she will never officially concede, even if super delegates come out in enough numbers to put Obama over the top. Maybe campaigns never end for the Clintons. Maybe they have a plan for the convention to stir things up there.
The bigger question is the private deal of payback on the debt. I don’t even want to know that little game.
At this point I don’t see how in heck anyone could be suckered into endorsing a check in support of her knowing it’s money put towards defeat. Somewhere in there is a clear statement from a Clinton that those who do write the check out aren’t getting. She knows a person is losing money with the endorsement but she willingly takes it to indulge her feeling of entitlement that was ripped from her months ago. I can’t see how anyone would fall for that but there again is that example of her target voter. The uneducated.
And no, I don't think I'd like to be the one to tell her it's over. I've already seen The Exorcist...
And remind the SDs how the VRWC is chomping at the bit to assist.
What's an SD to do? My advice to them: run Obama and let McCain win. That way both parties have ample time to select and vet our '12 candidates a little better than we did this go-around.
Watch for the vans filled with file boxes leaving the Hillary! campaign headquarters and driving over to the McCain headquarters. 24 hours later, we'll see a concession speech.
You may be on to something. In knowing the Clintons the Superdelegates may take this into their own hands and start declaring support for Obama right now to get this over with. I also agree that the Clintons have no knowledge of how to deal with defeat. In their eyes it’s not over until the say it’s over. I think it’s also a shocker to watch their party turn their backs on them. They’ve been the king and queen of that messed up party for so long. To go down in defeat like this has got to sting real bad. The hardest thing she is dealing with is the fact this was hers to lose and boy did she lose it. Those around her never took into consideration the Obama factor. Although I have to give credit to Obama. He played the one card no one expected. The Oprah card worked wonders. Can you imagine how many times during the say the Clintons use the “n” word to vent their anger? hahahaha.
Hillary’s voters tend to have Less Education than Obama’s. Just because someone doesn’t have a university degree does NOT make them STUPID. Bill Gates doesn’t have a university degree.
It isn't over, and, BTW, what explains this aversion to conflict?
Nominating contests used to be resolved (in bitter battles) at the conventions.
My mother was born during the 88th Democratic ballot in 1924.
The contestants are divided, closely. Neither can get a majority without further developments.
Why the reluctance to let 'em fight it out?
It's the American way.
:)
Clinton has only won 60 or more percent of the vote in one state, Arkansas with 70% of the vote.
It’s all in the presentation of saying one has the uneducated vote. It comes off insulting and that was my point. Anyone funding a losing campaign is stupid. Now go back to bragging you have the uneducated vote and you have to figure in this case it explains where her money is coming from. Stupid is as stupid does.
I’m not impressed that someone like Bill Gates doesn’t have a college degree. I consider him a complete social retard among other things. If the list of successful non educated men and women is so small they are easy to point out then I’d have to say it’s a poor example. Give me more names and a longer list and I’d support the idea that non educated doesn’t mean stupid. In this day and age I think you are highly stupid if you don’t seek out a college education. Just a personal thing but I’m here enjoying the defeat of a Clinton today not here to debate a stranger on the importance of a College education.
It isn’t over? Do you have a calculator that shows it’s not over? It’s over. Watching them chew each others flesh all the way to the convention is a fun little game but it’s over.
Yeah. She has also used the Home Town Girl Card everywhere.
Why Arkansas loves Klintons is beyond me.
She picked all the delegates, all the Supers, and Gigantic Popular Vote net from Arkansas.
Same goes for NY.
In PA, she ran as home-town girl as well.
If Obama wasn’t from Illinois, she would have cleaned up their too, because she grew up in suburbs outside Chicago.
Total votes Clinton Obama Split
WV: 400,000 240,000 160,000 60-40
KY: 500,000 300,000 200,000 60-40
OR: 600,000 270,000 330,000 45-55
SD: 100,000 45,000 55,000 45-55
MT: 125,000 56,250 68,750 45-55
Totals 911,250 813,750"
This vote simulator forgets Puerto Rico.
The Clinton camp is dreaming of a 600,000 Clinton vote advantage in PR. 350,000 may be more realistic, but PR will at least close the popular vote count.
If the Wright thing had come out while he was running against McCain it would have gotten zero traction except as a "racist Rovian plot", no one and I mean no one would have given it any credence and McCain would have denounced bringing it up.
Instead the Clintons had get into the gutter because the race was always just out of reach and if they could make Obama unelectable she just might win. The media was split on who to support so the reported the story as it should have been reported and now Obama is unelectable.
Good job Rush. For the record I voted for Obama in Texas because I thought Rush was wrong, it turns out I was wrong.
Maybe if Kramer tells her it's over he can keep his Tony.
“Hillary has only one possible strategy left. She needs to show the super delegates that Obama is not electable in the general election. She can do that with polling but, more likely, it will involve politically crippling Obama with opposition research.
That is really the only card she has left.”
Actually she can still go to the “Vince Foster Plan.”
“Hillary has only one possible strategy left. She needs to show the super delegates that Obama is not electable in the general election. She can do that with polling but, more likely, it will involve politically crippling Obama with opposition research.
That is really the only card she has left.”
Actually she can still go to the “Vince Foster Plan.”
Nice Catch. I missed it.
Hasn’t her spin doctors been at work with that strategy all along? It doesn’t seem to be working. They are either ignoring her knock at the door or flat out turning her down. The Wright issue has been played out. There isn’t anything more they can do with that either. Are they aware that she is just as likely to go down in defeat as the nominee? She says the stupidest things. She may end up making JM look like a genius. There are many Dim Senior adult men who privately don’t want to vote for her. The damage she has done loses her the youth vote. The educated vote. A core of the black vote. Some of these super delegates clearly see the bigger picture and realize she’s a sinking ship. Might as well see if this whole ruse of change from someone who can’t give you a solid answer on anything will work vs same ol same ol.
The point is that your projections of Hillary getting 60% of the vote in WV and Kentucky are very optimistic given her track record. She has only reached 60% or above once. She only received 57% in NY and 55% in PA. Obama has topped 60% or more 21 times.
Which is what Rush is hoping for. An old proverb says "When two tigers fight, one will die and the other will be crippled"
The Clinton camp expects her to win at least 67% of Puerto Rico’s 1,000,000+ votes. Some internal polling says as high as 80%.
Right on. Her ego won't allow her to accept and acknowledge defeat. This way she can always spin that she won but decided to be magnanimous and defer to Barak.I would love to see this fiasco cost her and Bill a small fortune to be paid from the graft he's banked.
Donating money to her campaign now is like buying a used lottery ticket.
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