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Washington State schools lose $13.2 million math and science grant over union laws
The Seattle Times ^ | May 5, 2008 | Linda Shaw

Posted on 05/07/2008 9:31:00 PM PDT by DakotaRed

Two Seattle high schools are among seven statewide that will lose a chance to add and strengthen Advanced Placement courses in math and science because a $13.2 million grant that Washington state won last year has been scrapped.

The National Math & Science Initiative (NMSI), based in Dallas, announced that it will end Washington's grant because NMSI was unable to reach agreement with Washington's schools on the terms of the contract.

NMSI declined to give any specifics, but state Rep. Bill Fromhold, who resigned his legislative post as of next year so he could help administer Washington's grant, said it had to do with how teachers would be paid for the time they spent in training, and how they would receive incentives for how well students scored on AP exams.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: effwaorg; nmsi; teachersunion; washingtonstate
Sonya Jones from Evergreen Freedom Foundation was interviewd this evening on the Victoria Taft program out of Portland, Oregon about this incident.

She wrote a post on it for EFF, Getting Exactly What They Pay For and a video report is available at You Tube.

With money tight and the states budget concerns, it boggles the imagination that we would lose money over laws to protect Unions.

1 posted on 05/07/2008 9:31:01 PM PDT by DakotaRed
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To: sionnsar

ping for WA State.....


2 posted on 05/07/2008 9:34:03 PM PDT by goodnesswins (20 is the new 10)
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To: DakotaRed

Education is a big PONZI scheme.....


3 posted on 05/07/2008 9:34:46 PM PDT by goodnesswins (20 is the new 10)
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To: DakotaRed

students and families lose, individual teachers lose, the schools and community lose, the nation loses...... but union drones, hacks, and thugs get to keep their little fiefdoms, so that’s what really matters!


4 posted on 05/07/2008 9:37:16 PM PDT by Enchante (Obama: My 1930s Foreign Policy Goes Well With My 1960s Social Policy!)
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To: DakotaRed

Yet more proof that ‘teachers’ unions are about the unions and have nothing whatsoever to do with teaching. Not for a long time now. If we got rid of all the students, they would still be demanding pay increases for PTSD or some other reason.


5 posted on 05/07/2008 9:37:48 PM PDT by bpjam (Drill For Oil or Lose Your Job!! Vote Nov 3, 2008)
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To: DakotaRed

WA State Ping


6 posted on 05/07/2008 9:38:57 PM PDT by Keith Brown (Among the other evils being unarmed brings you, it causes you to be despised Machiavelli.)
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To: DakotaRed
the other thing I read today was that a Washington State commission came to the conclusion that teachers going beyond their BAs' did not improve learning outcomes for the kids..

of course, that set really well with the Wash. State teachers union.....the teachers at least in my district get paid for every course they take on their way to their masters and afterwards, their pay increases....

getting a masters only made sense for math and science teachers, but then again, that would be "hard".

7 posted on 05/07/2008 9:47:59 PM PDT by cherry
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To: DakotaRed
With money tight and the states budget concerns, it boggles the imagination that we would lose money over laws to protect Unions.

LOL. That's the only remaining purpose of the education establishment today. Of course money would be sacrificed for union power. But don't worry, they'll be back tomorrow whining that they need a tax increase to increase teacher salaries. And the idiot voters will probably give it to them. I can't remember the last time an education tax increase was voted down in my neck of the woods. And still they whine.

8 posted on 05/07/2008 10:03:55 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: ModelBreaker

Perhaps my use of the words “lose money” were error. It is more like throwing it away.

You are right, though. They will be crying soon enough for more taxes “for the children,” although they threw away $3.2 Million.

We need Dino Rossi in Olympia and a whole new slew of legislators.


9 posted on 05/07/2008 10:09:25 PM PDT by DakotaRed (Keep following the media as they sell out America)
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To: DakotaRed
We need Dino Rossi in Olympia and a whole new slew of legislators.

I could guarantee a Rossi victory this fall, but he's unwilling to expose Gregoire's corruption and tracketeering.

10 posted on 05/07/2008 10:35:39 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: DakotaRed

Heard the president of the teacher’s union on the radio and it basically came down to if they couldn’t do what they wanted with the money, they didn’t want it. So much for the people giving the money having their wishes respected. Of course, as always, the big losers are the children.


11 posted on 05/07/2008 10:44:45 PM PDT by Vicki (Washington State where anyone can vote .... illegals, non-residents, dead people, dogs, felons)
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To: SeaHawkFan

Fraudorie is finished and many already know its coming in Nov.
She’s taken a 2 billion surplus and turned it into a 2 billion deficit. She wants to start putting tolls on bridges that are already paid off. Nothing has been done about the incredibly unsafe Viaduct or 520 bridge. She hasn’t lifted a finger to fight the cattle rustler new owners of the Sonics that are going to move them to Oklahoma, instead she’s helping them.
And all this while Seattle hasn’t been in any kind of recession and economically doing well.
She’s an utter failure.


12 posted on 05/08/2008 12:13:24 AM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: DakotaRed

Reading between the lines, the unions didn’t like the merit pay system. They wanted to be in control and not allow another entity to hold teachers accountable. It’s their modus operandi.


13 posted on 05/08/2008 12:46:25 AM PDT by taxesareforever (We'll never forget Matt Maupin and his service to our country.)
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To: DakotaRed
Math Education: An Inconvenient Truth -- KCPQ meteorologist M.J. McDermott's exposé of the terrible math curricula.
14 posted on 05/08/2008 7:16:27 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Vicki
Sonya Jones penned an Op Ed in today's Columbian. She quotes Rich Wood, spokesman for the Washington Education Association, “Some outside group can’t impose a new system of pay on teachers. That’s just not the way that schools work in our state.”

Union’s stance hurts teachers, students

Hello!!! This wouldn't change the way they are paid. It was to be a voluntary program and teachers would paid incentives and bonuses if their students excelled.

Maybe the union is afraid if the kids actually learn math, they won't grow up to be union members.

15 posted on 05/08/2008 8:29:21 PM PDT by DakotaRed (Keep following the media as they sell out America)
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Thanks to goodnesswins for the ping.

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Ping sionnsar if you see a Washington state related thread.

16 posted on 05/09/2008 2:22:10 AM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: goodnesswins

I listened to some WEA clown on KVI earlier this week explaining how the grantors wanted the money paid out as merit pay and how we don’t do it that way in Washington. No $hi+ ? If they did, half these teachers would stave to death. She went on to say that they didn’t want outsiders telling them how to spend the money. Well, whose money was it, for Heaven’s sake? I can’t wait for the next school levy and all the crying about the poor, under-paid teachers. If one of their campaigners comes to my door he’s likely to get thrown down the steps.


17 posted on 05/09/2008 12:49:04 PM PDT by beelzepug ("That a-hole Bill Maher stole my tagline!")
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I wonder if the WEA is part of the problem with Seattle getting dropped from the Gates Foundations Support? Someone needs to expose these little nazi’s....


18 posted on 05/09/2008 1:27:28 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Liberals learning curves are pretty flat,)
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