Posted on 05/08/2008 2:53:55 AM PDT by The Raven
The Club for Growth Political Action Committee has long been attacked for intervening in Republican primaries and targeting the party's most economically liberal incumbents.
In 2000, Pennsylvania Rep. Jim Greenwood called the Club "cannibals." When the Club ran ads against Ohio Sen. George Voinovich and Maine Sen. Olympia Snowe for resisting President Bush's 2003 tax cut, Karl Rove deemed the ads "counterproductive."
And Newt Gingrich, the man who ushered in a conservative Republican majority in 1994, once denounced the Club. "Their strategy is explicitly wrong," he said. "The key is to elect more Republicans and have a bigger majority and be more inclusive."
Now comes Oklahoma Rep. Tom Cole, the man charged with rebuilding the GOP majority in the House. In a New York Times Magazine article, he denounced the Club for Growth's involvement in a special election in Ohio's fifth congressional district.
"The problem I have with the Club is I think they're stupid," Mr. Cole said. "They spend more money beating Republicans than Democrats."
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Maybe we can get a whole bunch of Chafees, Snowes, and Voinovichs elected, and have a liberal majority in both houses!
Mark
It's fairly obvious to anyone with a modicum of common sense that the RINO's are as bad, if not worse than the enemy Democrat Party.
At least you know the enemy is trying to destroy your country. The Rino's won't even admit that.
The days of voting for the lesser of evils is about over.
Maybe you GOP leaders should concentrate on fielding some candidates that are significantly better than their Democrat opponents.
VOTE FOR ME: I suck slightly less than the other candidate. is not a really good campaign strategy.
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As you are going to find out AGAIN in November.
IMHO - the days of voting for the lesser of two evils is over.
I’d rather have a democrat in office then a RINO.
RINO’s are democrats.
What good does it do us to have RINO senators like Spector, Voinovich, Snowe, and Hagel to name a few? Voinovich, a weasel who broke down in tears speaking against the President's nominee, his President's nominee, for the UN representative post, John Bolton? I contribute to the Club for Growth as they support REAL CONSERVATIVES!
That suckup blowhard Newt G., is no Conservative, he’s true self is coming out, sucks up to Pelosi and Global Climate garbage, no wonder the Clinton’s got away with murder while this worm Newt was faking his great conservative moments in the ‘90s...talk about the worst type of traitor, it is R’s like Newt!
Agree, Newt was hammered by the libs, could not take the heat in the kitchen....went to the bathroom, threw up, came out a lib.. his guts were gone.. . Who is there now? Libs use personal destruction very well...
The GOP politicians protect their own, that is other politicians. Dem politicians protect their own, that is other Dem politicians. McCain chooses protecting John Kerry and lying about the Swiftboat Vets over the truth. McCain chooses protecting fellow Senator, Obama, over the GOP and the truth. The GOP is the stupid party. They learn nothing and attack their base. We need a new party or someone to go in and fire the entire RNC and the rest of the “leadership”.
I’d rather have a democrat in office then a RINO.
You’re right, RINOs do more damage and are harder to fight. When you try to vote them out, you have to work against the GOP.
At least he's not afraid to call people stupid... Now if we can get him to direct that name calling to several well deserving democrats on the other side of the aisle, we might find more conservatives who aren't afraid to put idiots in their place, stepping up to run for public office.
This is just one of the numerous fractures in the GOP.
Michael Steele seems to be slowly DCized...must be running around in that high altitude filled with BS starves the brain of O2...Newt & Steele are coming across as Dumb & Dumber. When the call for Battle came the Rinos went over to the enemy’s side.
“It’s fairly obvious to anyone with a modicum of common sense that the RINO’s are as bad, if not worse than the enemy Democrat Party.
At least you know the enemy is trying to destroy your country. The Rino’s won’t even admit that.”
The real problem is much worse than just ending up with RINOs in your midst. The big problem is that they don’t educate the population at all. If we run a conservative, and they lose, at least the public has heard the debate and can judge results. Running a guy like Specter the populace never sees anything but a half a loaf.
The biggest example of the problems caused by compromise RINOs is President Bush. Since he never fully believed in the conservative message, he never used the bully pulpit to advance our cause. So even with a majority of Republicans, we ended up with a hollowed out core.
Form the National Sovreignty & Security Party.
Target RINOS in Congress first, (that’s where the REAL power is), then go after the presidency later.
LEVERAGE to keep John and Juan from giving up our soil to third-world terrorists and the like!
Ronald Reagan worked to bring people into the Republican Party, no matter where they might be on the political spectrum.
He was assuredly not an excluder.
Reagan had an “Eleventh Commandment”: DO NOT CRITISIZE OTHER REPUBLICANS.
Reagan followed that “Commandment.” And that was one of the primary reasons he was so successful.
Another reason he was successful was that he had love in his heart. He loved his fellow humans.
Gorbachev instinctively felt this - and the two proceeded to take a huge step toward making a true peace in the world.
Reagan brought people in - he did not shut them out.
It can do a lot of good to have RINO senators if the alternative is a RAT senator. Those in the majority control the agenda. I'll take a RINO over a RAT anyday but I'll take a conservative Republican over a RINO any day.
It is becoming apparent to me that tolerating RINOs is having the effect of preventing conservatives. Tolerance has become de facto endorsement, and has led us to the dire political straits we now are navigating.
JMO, of course.
With that post, you yourself are violating Reagan’s 11th Commandment.
Funny how that worked out for you, huh?
Chasing after liberal republicans is akin to bottom feeding. You may get that full feeling initially but the taste is just god-awful and the lack of nutrients leaves you diseased and prone to rot on the same bottom as your meal.
IMO, John Kerry should at the VERY least still be in jail as a traitor.
I cannot vote for a democrat, and as it now stands, I cannot vote for McCain.
Conservatives need leadership and a strong voice, and we need it now.
Preventing conservatives how? What do you mean?
I've worked in the political arena. Trust me, I only consider RINOs better than a Democrat but there are many times it would be wonderful to have a few more RINOs than the RATS. It can completely change the legal landscape.
The time to worry about this is in the primaries. I think that's what the Club for Growth is trying to do and good for them. But once the primary is over, it's full charge ahead against the RATS.
What I mean is this: The RNC has clearly gotten the message that a RINO candidate will still receive the votes of the R faithful, and therefor they promote RINOs because they are considered more palatable to “independents” and “moderates”. The money angle has historically followed the same pattern.
At some point, voters must reassert their voices demanding conservative candidates - assuming that is what the voters want - by refusing to support liberal RINOs.
There is a serious dichotomy in saying “I really want conservative candidates, but I will accept whatever candidate I am given anyway”.
Yes, but he didn't stop calling the Soviets an evil empire in order to do it.
You can probably produce some evidence where that has happened on an occasion but you can also find where the conservative candidate can be favored.
Right now conservatives on this site are trying to be the victims. I'm not going to buy it. The attitude is destructive. With this attitude, we'll never win elections. It's the same thing as blacks being the constant victim class and loving it. They have to reject it and take matters into their own hands and work their way out of it.
I'm sorry, but your characterization of my motives is incorrect. I am standing up for my principles - and being a "maverick" while doing it. We have both scribed to the goal of conservatives being elected. Where we differ is in our tactics, and to some extent our strategy.
I cannot pretend the unacceptable is acceptable simply because of the party affiliation attached. I'm sorry if that rankles, but "it is what it is".
I do find it interesting that some say that theprimaries are the only place where such discussions can be held. By doing that, one abdicates the responsibility of adjudging the correctness of the result of the process in favor of the execution of the process. I work in the aerospace industry. If we develop a product using a superior process, meeting or exceeding all of the regulatory requirements for the process, but the product is unsafe because it is unsafe by design, then we cannot use the product in flight. We followed the process - but it's unsafe.
This mindset applies to politics, as well.
“What good does it do us to have RINO senators like Spector, Voinovich, Snowe, and Hagel to name a few? Voinovich, a weasel who broke down in tears speaking against the President’s nominee, his President’s nominee, for the UN representative post, John Bolton? I contribute to the Club for Growth as they support REAL CONSERVATIVES! “
No, sorry, that won’t fly. You know who recently made a contribution from his campaign $$$ to Snowe? John McCain.
SNOWE FOR SENATE, PORTLAND, ME, $1,986 , 3/6/2008
IN-KIND CONTRIBUTION
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/expend_detail.asp?id=N00006424&code=H10&cycle=2008&descrip=Charitable+Donations
Now, the Club for Growth.....the biggest open border, free trade at any cost bunch around. You are throwing your money at a libertarian organization. They not only went after Rino’s, they went after every border security republican. Perhaps you like the Club, but it’s not because they’re ‘conservative.’
Toomey BTTT...
They also haven't been too concerned about our difficulties with China.
I don't know what their current stand on immigration reform or China is, but it's worth checking out what they believe now.
There are also legitimate debates about whether tax cuts should come before deficit reduction or not.
Think things through for yourselves and don't be stampeded by Rino-hunters.
Thanks for that.
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