Nor should you. You should apologize for insulting our military. Which, by the way, happens to be a d@mn fine option.
Posted on 05/08/2008 6:15:04 AM PDT by LJayne
Who knew that promoting literacy could cause such a firestorm?
(Excerpt) Read more at bangornews.com ...
John Kerry
Got bias?
Seriously, how do these journalist yahoos think that the "firestorm" has anything to do with "promoting literacy"?
Promoting literacy by degrading our brave men in uniform deserves a firestorm.
I agree!
From his sophomore year at the University of Maine at Orono, he wrote a weekly column for the school newspaper, THE MAINE CAMPUS. He was also active in student politics, serving as a member of the Student Senate. He came to support the anti-war movement on the Orono campus, arriving at his stance from a conservative view that the war in Vietnam was unconstitutional.
http://www.stephenking.com/biography.php
It’s always the same ‘ol story with these PsOS.
King does so many private works of good (that you will never ever hear about) that he gets a free pass from me to say whatever the heck he likes without one iota of critique.
Always blaming others and how they took what was said, never what was said.
So Clinton/Kerry/Murtha-esque.
Really? Well, his “good works” aren’t reflected very well in a patently false, mealy-mouthed pot shot, now are they?
If he were my Pastor, I'd leave the church over that one!
Man, King is backing off that statment like an NFL corner. LOL
Nor should you. You should apologize for insulting our military. Which, by the way, happens to be a d@mn fine option.
I can’t figure out if he hasn’t written a good book in 20 years because he quit cocaine or because it has eaten his brain away.
In other words, if one does good things, one can then do bad things with impunity? Interesting concept.
susie
>>>>In other words, if one does good things, one can then do bad things with impunity? Interesting concept.
When I lived in New Hampshire I was friends with people who were very close friends with Steve (I only met him as an acquaintance).
I can safely say that you have no idea what you’re talking about. He’s a better man than you would ever know.
He gave over a million dollars to Bangor's library renovations and he created an 5,000 plus seat baseball field in a park behind his house, a ballfield where each year the Senior League World Series is held. And I know that he has long been involved in the literacy campaign.
I just happen to disagree with him politically and hold firm in my belief that anybody who opens their yap (including me) is fair game for rebuttal. Free speech is a two way street.
Not Steven King.
He's too ill-literate to understand what he said.
Mussolini got the trains to run on time./sarc
King has every right to disagree with the war- and to express his dissent publicly. His desire to promote literacy is important and desirable.
He does NEITHER cause any good when he intertwines the two. It shows one of the failures in liberal thought; sweeping generalizations. Now it’s a fight about something entirely different than the value of literacy or why he disagrees with the war in Iraq. He’s boxed himself into a corner.
I know several college students who put finishing college on hold in order to enlist in the Army and Marine Corps. I’m sure if I know some- there are many more. What would King say of them? That’s why these arguments are absurd and don’t advance the cause(s) he wants to promote.
BS. His "private" works of good don't give him a moral pass to utter "public" words of harm and untruth.
If he had made his remarks in "private" then your comment might pass muster, but when he chose to do it publicly he's a valid target for the much-deserved criticism he's received.
Poor man! Just a few years away from a rubber room. Takes a frazzled mind to concoct his jibberish!
Ask the Imam: He'll tell you it is SOP with Allah.
Just one more reason to avoid Islam like the plague it is.
>>>>>BS. His “private” works of good don’t give him a moral pass to utter “public” words of harm and untruth.
Why do you quote the word “private”? Odd, because the works I refer to are private, and will remain so.
He disagrees with the war. He has leftie politics. He’s a softie and politically on the wrong side of the issues.
So what?
How can I have no idea what I’m talking about when I didn’t do anything but ask you a question? Please point out where I don’t know what I’m talking about.
susie
Yeah, I heard that.... ;)
susie
>>>>>I just happen to disagree with him politically and hold firm in my belief that anybody who opens their yap (including me) is fair game for rebuttal.
Ditto, and that’s fair enough.
I just wanted to add some balance to the discussion.
Sounds like Army personnel are pretty upset about King's remark. I don't think King's justifications are going to unruffle the feathers, either.
The point is, you give him a pass (as is your right) however many people here don’t. He said something stupid and hurtful to those serving our country. It’s actually not even my business (or yours) to give him a pass, unless your one of our soldiers (maybe you are, and if so, thank you for your service).
susie
A better man would never have made a statement denegrading our troops like that.
You made a rhetorical assertion:
"if [Steve King] does good things, [Steve King] can then do bad things with impunity?"
Saying that he disagrees with the Iraq war policy is not "do[ing] bad things with impunity." It's simply his statement on the war, which statement I happen to disagree with.
This is a circular argument. I stand by what I posted. And you can’t point out where I don’t know what I’m talking about. Thanks for playing tho.
susie
King is nothing more than a child who was never told when it’s time to stop pretending.
>>>>The point is, you give him a pass (as is your right) however many people here don’t. He said something stupid and hurtful to those serving our country.
OK, maybe you guys are all correct and I’m wrong.
I worked as a civvie contractor in Iraq and found the Army folks almost without exception to be intelligent, competent, responsible, and admirable folks. Much more so than your average person-on-the-street. They are indeed a cut above the average.
So if I heard Steve say this I’d give him that info and suggest that instead of carping, that he visit Iraq to meet the guys on the ground (if they’d have him) to see if his bias is correct or not.
Jerk.
He did NOT make a statement "Saying that he disagrees with the Iraq war policy"; he said, the same as J'F'nKerry did, that if one is illiterate--unable to read--they will end up in the military and Iraq.
It was not a policy disagreement, it was a slander of the troops.
The former would warrant a pass; the latter can not.
A stupid public statement is one thing; an untrue stupid statement about others is entirely different.
Maybe if he was pounding sand for a living, instead of a typewriter, he would know what he said was a lie, and one that distracts from either of his causes.
Now, instead of a simple apology for a LIE, he tries to spin it into being an attack upon his antiwar stance.
Worse than that. He's trying to spin the attack on his support of literacy! No pass for him.
Typical, play the “I was quoted out of context” excuse.
>>>>>I’m sick of reading all of your defense of the indefensible.
Perhaps you’re right and I didn;t think it through.
Actually, that would be a great idea. I suspect he said it, not really thinking, probably like I would have told them they would have to work at McDonalds (I used to tell my students, when they didn’t bother to study for a test that they needed to learn to say these words, “Do you want fries with that?”). And of course, people who work at McDonalds would have been upset with me (and I know most of them probably can read!)
susie
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