Posted on 05/08/2008 3:40:04 PM PDT by forkinsocket
JERUSALEM — As Israel toasts its 60th anniversary in the coming weeks, rejoicing in Jewish national rebirth and democratic values, the Arabs who make up 20 percent of its citizens will not be celebrating. Better off and better integrated than ever in their history, freer than a vast majority of other Arabs, Israel’s 1.3 million Arab citizens are still far less well off than Israeli Jews and feel increasingly unwanted.
On Thursday, which is Independence Day, thousands will gather in their former villages to protest what they have come to call the “nakba,” or catastrophe, meaning Israel’s birth. For most Israelis, Jewish identity is central to the nation, the reason they are proud to live here, the link they feel with history. But Israeli Arabs, including the most successfully integrated ones, say a new identity must be found for the country’s long-term survival.
“I am not a Jew,” protested Eman Kassem-Sliman, an Arab radio journalist with impeccable Hebrew, whose children attend a predominantly Jewish school in Jerusalem. “How can I belong to a Jewish state? If they define this as a Jewish state, they deny that I am here.”
The clash between the cherished heritage of the majority and the hopes of the minority is more than friction. Even more today than in the huge half-century festivities a decade ago, the left and the right increasingly see Israeli Arabs as one of the central challenges for Israel’s future — one intractably bound to the search for an overall settlement between Jews and Arabs. Jews fear ultimately losing the demographic battle to Arabs, both in Israel and in the larger territory it controls.
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Good old NTY, no bias in this article!/SAR
boo frickn’ hoo
The NY Times celebrates the so-called “Catastrophe,” not the birthday of Israel.
What's that? They fellow Arab brethren don't want them? Not my problem.
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They should move if they don’t like it.
Sung to the tune of “Mr. Garrison’s Merry F***ng Christmas”
They think it was a tragedy
When Israel was formed
They failed to murder all the Jews
So on that day they mourn
They dream the time is coming
When the Jews will go away
That’s why I go to Dearborn
And to all the Arabs I say...
Hey there, Palestinians!
Happy ****in’ Naqba!
The IDF has kicked your ass
While you said “Allah Ackbar!”
In case you haven’t noticed,
It’s Yom Ha’Atzmaut
So get off your ****ing Muslim ass
And kiss my Hebrew boot.
There is no Yom Ha’Atzmaut
In the U.N., I know
They’re passing resolutions
That Israel has to go
They don’t condemn Zimbabwe,
Or China or Darfur
That’s why on Yom Ha’Atzmaut
I go to the U.N. and roar...
Hey, United Nations!
Happy ****in’ Yom Tov!
Eat a piece of gefilte fish
And pass some to the Pontiff!
In case you haven’t noticed
It’s Israel’s birthday
So get off your anti-Semitic ass
And ****ing celebrate!
Now I heard that Jimmy Carter
Is a Jew-despising pr***
He kisses the ass of terrorists
And it really makes me sick.
On Israel’s day of freedom
Jimmy Carter won’t take part
And so I go down to Georgia
And I say to that little fart...
Hey there Jimmy Carter
****ing Chag Sameach
Hashem is going to kick your ass
You Jew-hating nazi piece of s***
In case you haven’t noticed
There’s festive things to do
So let’s all rejoice with Israel
And Happy ****ing Yom Ha’atzmaut to you!
On Yom Ha’Atzmaut I travel round the world and say,
Saudi Arabia, Iran, Afghanistan,
And all you British too,
Happy ****ing Yom Ha’Atzmaut, to you!
This article appeared a day or so ago in the NYT and just floored me.
“Arabs in Israel are Outsiders”
Jews in Saudi Arabia are living on borrowed time until their throats are slit.
“But Israeli Arabs, including the most successfully integrated ones, say a new identity must be found for the country’s long-term survival.”
Let’s hear your suggestion, is it something like ...”kill all these sons and daughters of apes and monkeys and take back this land for Allah”? Am I close?
“I am not a Jew,” protested Eman Kassem-Sliman, an Arab radio journalist with impeccable Hebrew, whose children attend a predominantly Jewish school in Jerusalem. “How can I belong to a Jewish state? If they define this as a Jewish state, they deny that I am here.”
Then stop your whining and go f**king home and enjoy whatever flavor of living hell you’d care to in whichever Arab country pleases you. Does that work for you? It works for me!
“Better off and better integrated than ever in their history, freer than a vast majority of other Arabs, Israel’s 1.3 million Arab citizens are still far less well off than Israeli Jews and feel increasingly unwanted.
“Unwanted” is galaxies ahead of “slaughtered”, and with a better quality of life than Abu6pack in virtually ANY Arab state why don’t you STFU or better still, see how far you get whining like this to some Arab state of your choosing. Why not ask those countries to allow a synagogue to be built? Perhaps a member or two of their Congress could be a Jew? I’m sure those suggestions would be taken into consideration for a lengthy period before your THROAT WAS CUT for even bringing it up, you vile cockraoch!
This article, indeed the whole newspaper, is truly from some alternate reality.
And how did non-Arabs fare after Saladin sieged Jerusalem in 1187?
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Gee, they feel UNWANTED? Boo, freaking, hoo.
Saladin was not an Arab, he was Kurd.
If the Arabs were smart, they’d convert.
Now what does my tirade have to do with Saladin? He was Islamic and this wider war of cultures is not Arab vs. Jew or Isreal vs. Palestine, it is Islam vs Western civilization. Both Arab Jews and non-Arab Jews are equally hated by Islam. That is another fact that the NY Times wishes to conceal from it's readers.
UM....do Jews get to go to any Arab country freely???? Heck, even Christians can’t take a Bible or cross into Saudi Arabia.....is the NYTimes writer THIS dense?
As Israel toasts its 60th anniversary in the coming weeks, rejoicing in Jewish national rebirth and democratic values, the Arabs who make up 20 percent of its citizens will not be celebrating
Druze and most Bedouin are. The other Arabs who believe in either a Pan-Arab nation or a Caliphate wont.
Better off and better integrated than ever in their history, freer than a vast majority of other Arabs, Israel’s 1.3 million Arab citizens are still far less well off than Israeli Jews and feel increasingly unwanted.
So Israeli Arabs own more private land than Jews. They get affirmative action, and we should feel sorry for them? Do you have any idea how the Muslims treated their minorities?
n Thursday, which is Independence Day, thousands will gather in their former villages to protest what they have come to call the “nakba,” or catastrophe, meaning Israel’s birth. For most Israelis, Jewish identity is central to the nation, the reason they are proud to live here, the link they feel with history. But Israeli Arabs, including the most successfully integrated ones, say a new identity must be found for the country’s long-term survival.
The first "Nakba" was when Greater Syria was divided in 1922 for the Pan Arabists. For the Islamists, it was the fall of the Cailphate in 1922. For all of the above the tragedy in 1947-48 was the failure to push all Jews into the sea and steal more land.
And Israel should destroy its national-statehood for this Fifth column?
“I am not a Jew,” protested Eman Kassem-Sliman, an Arab radio journalist with impeccable Hebrew, whose children attend a predominantly Jewish school in Jerusalem. “How can I belong to a Jewish state? If they define this as a Jewish state, they deny that I am here.”
Taqqiah. The Muslim supremacist can't deal with not being in power. Prior to 1917, the area was part of the Caliphate and no one batted an eye for Jews and Christians.
“We are prohibited from using our own land,” he said, standing in the former village of Lajoun, now a mix of overgrown scrub and pines surrounded by the fields of Kibbutz Megiddo. “They want to keep it available for Jews. My daughter makes no distinction between Jewish and Arab patients. Why should the state treat me differently?”
And yet, Arabs own more private land than Jews. The NYTimes is picking the exception here. Had this village not been a used in the Arab exterminationist campaign, it would still be Arab. Moreover the whole world screams bloody murder whenever Jews try to return to land they were expelled from in 1948.
Palestinian Arabs became refugees in Jordan, Lebanon and Gaza, then under Egypt’s supervision. But some, like Mr. Mahameed, stayed in Israel. They were made citizens and were promised equality, but never got it.
Where is the inequality? He can live anywhere but that village.
Many Arabs are Christian, and the Christian Arabs don’t like the Jews either!
“After 60 Years, Arabs in Israel Are Outsiders”
But, of course, Jews have always been made to feel welcome and at home in any Arab country they might have lived in?
As many or more Jews were forced from Arab nations after 1948 as Arabs left Israel. A population exchange took place, but on the Jews welcomed their displaced group members and helped establish them in a new home. The Arabs turned their brethren into political pawns.
Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right....
The greater point is that the land known as Israel has been the center of conflict between worldviews for centuries. The sons of Issac and Jacob took it from the Cannonites and the sons of Ismael, the Assyrians then the Babylonians took it from Israel and Judah, the Greeks under Alexander took control, The Romans took control and in 70AD destroyed much of it, the Mohammedans took it, the first crusade took it back, Saladin took it back from the pilgrims of the crusades, Richard the Lion Hearted took back part, the orders of knights namely the Templars and the Hospitilars fought against the Mohammedan forces. It is naive to think that in 60 years 4000 years of disputes are going to be settled. It is equally obtuse to blame modern Israel. There are many atrocities on every side, there is no absolute moral high ground to claimed by any of the participants. The conflicting worldviews can not even agree on what is moral. This is a clash of civilizations not just a land dispute.
Memo to the “unwanted” who have better lives and more rights than under any Arab regime: My give-a-damn button busted last week and the PC repairman won’t be able to come fix it for three weeks. Tough noogies!
These Arabs in Israel have it a lot better than they would under any of their “arab brothers”, but they are the biggest bunch of whiney bawl babies.
Excellent, Alouette! You just made my morning! Thank you!
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