Posted on 05/08/2008 4:10:47 PM PDT by Dawnsblood
Barak Obama and his people should be happy about the headline attached to the new Gallup analysis: Obama Beats McCain Among Jewish Voters. But truly, that is a misleading headline. Even in his wildest dreams no McCain activist was hoping that his candidate will beat Obama fair and square among Jewish voters. American Jews are liberal Democrats. A Democratic nominee cannot conceivably lose most of the Jewish votes. In their dreams, the McCain people hope that their candidate will be able to pull out the almost 40% Ronald Reagan got from Jews back in 1980.
"Barack Obama is faring better than might be expected among Jewish voters" the poll says.
"Expected" by whom?
According to the new Gallup data he will only get 61% of the vote, and McCain will get 32%. That is 13% less for Obama than the percentage of Jewish Americans voting for John Kerry back it 2004, and 7% more for McCain than the number of Jewish Americans voting for Bush back in 2004. That can be, well, the difference between winning and losing Florida.
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Well, since Obama shows no affinity for Israel, I doubt it.
What a stupid question.
Is 39% enough for Obama’s opponents?
Whatever 61% makes Obama, it must make his opponents twice as bad then?
I asked an Observant Jewish friend..."WHY do you do this??"
He shrugged, and said, "We're contrary-That's just what we do!".
*shrug*
If Yassar ever ran on the Dem ticket, he’d have done better.
We have a sense of self hatred unmatched by any text in an psych journal.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
I will never understand the attraction between Jooz and dimmicrats. Lib administrations are consistently anti-Israel compared to Republican ones. Do these people have no compassion for their homeland?
That margin could grow IMO, Obamao is a man of the Intl Left, their current cause de jour is the Palestinians, McCain has supported Israel far beyond the usual “Move the US Embassy to Jerusalem” pablum of Hilde, Obama won’t even go that far.
NJ could be mixed into this as well.
Exactly.
Yet another demographic (since CNN, MSNBC, etc. are obsessed with deomographics) where McCain will outperform for a Republican against Obama. Also on this list are rednecks and Hispanics.

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61 - for now.
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If these trends hold up, there is a good chance that McCain would win Florida quite handily over Obama (Palm Beach County having the highest percentage of Jews on a per capita basis in the United States).
Just because one is Jewish does mean that Israel is one’s “homeland.” I am completely American and completely Jewish, not at all Israeli.
Judaism teaches that one should act not for oneself but for the infant, the orphan, the stranger. That is why Jews are liberals. Jews are in favor of gun control, immigration and secularism.
Huh?
I think the point is that Democrats usually get a majority of the Jewish vote. 61%, if it plays out that way, would be low by historical standards. It could still be enough to win — or not.
I DON’T believe that Obama will even get that much of the Jewish vote. This is a solid case of the NH effect or whatever you want to call it. When it’s time to fill out that ballot, the inka dot will NOT be filled for Obama. Sorry. Outside of the marginally Jewish Trotskyists who are busy campaigning for Obama in their Che t-shirts right now, even the average liberal Jew will vote for McCain if Hillary has to bail.
And YES, Joe is McCain’s secret weapon. He needs to get out there more. And he MUST speak at the convention.
I predict that the Jews will generally accept Obama. He will turn them around once Hillary is out. He is starting with about 60% and can get at least ten points more.
You are seeing something I’m not seeing.
Judaism teaches:
If I am not for myself, who will be for me?
If I am only for myself, what am I?
You are not Jewish, you have no clue of what Judaism teaches, you are a troll.
Warning! This is a high-volume ping list.
If evangelicals rally around the GOP, Jews will be reminded that they are Democrats.
Jews want Democrat-appointed Supreme Court justices.
Jews are strongly against the Iraq war and always have been. McCain cannot get around that.
You do not know what Jews want or what Jews believe.
You are wrong. Sadly most American Jews are as ignorant about Judaism as you are.
I meant widow, orphan, stranger. The passage that refers to is somewhere in the first book of Isaiah. I am Jewish; you can call me a troll all you want.
When I said “not for oneself,” I meant “unselfishly.” Most American Jews are liberal Democrats because they are not as averse to taxation or the idea that government programs can improve society.
Tell me, how do Jews vote? What am I getting wrong here?
Prove it.
I don’t disagree with your points about Jewish liberal perspective. However, Orthodox Jews are increasingly conservative and young self-identified Jews vote conservative at a higher percentage than the older generations. So that leaves baby boomers and elderly. Baby boomer women are in love with Hillary and could more easily vote for McCain as an alternative than Obama, who they resent. The elderly are likely to be suspicious of Obama that he is muslim and mysteriously affiliated. I can see a lot of seniors in FL and CA conveniently forgetting where their polling station is or voting for McCain because he seems responsible.
Most American Jews are liberal Democrats because they have abandoned Judaism and embraced the DNC as an object of worship. This elderly population of Jewish liberals is assimilating, intermarrying, contracepting, aborting, and gaying themselves into extinction.
What a stupid question. Is 39% enough for Obamas opponents? Whatever 61% makes Obama, it must make his opponents twice as bad then?Obama and the Jews: is 61% enough?
Fine. What if some Democrat were drawing 61% of blacks? That would make the opponent only half as strong among blacks as the Democrat. It would also predict, other things being equal, that that particular Democrat didn't have a prayer of winning the general election. Since Democrats normally count on getting 90% of the black vote, and even then the Republican may run close by winning - albeit by a smaller percentage - among white voters, who are more numerous.
Prove yourself
You’re the n00b here, zotbait.
Jews haven’t abandoned Judaism more than Christianity has been abandoned by Christians (and that is a long term trend)
You are the n00b here and you have a certain ozone smell about you.
Most US Jews are Reform, not Orthodox
I am not talking about the Orthodox & their politics
I have never done anything to help the ozone layer
The black vote is obviously much more important for winning elections
Jerusalem, ho!
National Post | May 08 2008 | John Ough
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2008 06:17:28 PM by knighthawk
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2013277/posts
The Reform demographic is ageing and declining because of assimilation, intermarriage, low birth rate, abortion and homosexualism.
I live in LA, buck jarret. I’m pretty familiar with the stats on the Jewish population. I thought we were talking about how Jews in general would vote, not just the Orthodox community.
Yes, but Reform is the largest Jewish subgroup & the most liberal
Orthodox are more likely to be Republican
Overall, I still expect Obama to do well among Jews for reasons previously stated
I live in a place with more Jews than LA
There are only a few places with more Jews than LA. Where do you live?
Westchester County, NY
Intermarriage, low birth rate, maybe
I take exception, however, to the idea that liberal Jewish populations are dying out because of abortion (which affects poorer populations more) or homosexuality (affects various groups more or less equally)
Not "maybe" it's dead certain
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