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U.S. investigation into polygamy may extend to Canada
The Globe and Mail ^ | 5/8/08 | ROBERT MATAS

Posted on 05/08/2008 7:42:17 PM PDT by Politicalmom

VANCOUVER — The United States has appointed a federal prosecutor to work with state and local authorities on bringing an end to lawlessness in polygamous communities, an investigation that may extend to finding a way to stop the so-called polygamy underground railway across the Canada-U.S. border.

A senior prosecutor in the deputy attorney-general's office has been assigned to carry out the review in consultation with the Attorneys-General of Nevada, Arizona and Utah, Harry Reid, Majority Leader in the U.S. Senate, stated in correspondence released Thursday.

Mr. Reid described the problem as an “epidemic of lawlessness in polygamous communities.” He found out about the federal initiative after contacting U.S. Attorney-General Michael Mukasey to urge a thorough review of how the U.S. government could help state and local authorities “tackle this complex problem.”

Arizona Attorney-General Terry Goddard said Thursday that he welcomes the review, which he and others had sought three or four years ago. “The problem traditionally has been that the laws have not been enforced in these remote communities in Utah, Arizona and Nevada,” he said in an interview.

“My fundamental guiding star is, there is nothing special here. They need to follow the law like anyone else and it is up to us as prosecutors to make sure it happens,” Mr. Goddard said shortly before co-chairing a town hall meeting on polygamy in St. George, Utah.

B.C. Liberal MLA Bill Bennett, who represents the East Kootenay riding, said the Canadian government should be working with the United States on the cross-border issues. “What we need is a co-operative effort by the province, various states and the two federal governments, who have primary responsibility for immigration and customs,” he said in an interview from Victoria.

“Certainly from what I've been told, there is no doubt young women have been sent to Bountiful [B.C.] to marry older men and young women have been taken from Bountiful to marry older men [in the polygamous communities] in Colorado City, Arizona and in Utah.”

The U.S. federal review was announced a month after a raid on a 1,700-acre compound in Texas of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, a polygamous religious sect.

Authorities found more than 20 girls that they believed were under the age of 18 and pregnant or who already had children. Child protection officials said they found evidence of sexual abuse and a pervasive pattern of grooming young girls for underage sex. They apprehended 463 children at the compound, including at least one Canadian girl, and placed them in foster care.

Former members of the polygamous sect have said young women were regularly sent across the Canada-U.S. border, in both directions, to marry older men. Bountiful is a FLDS community of about 1,000 in the Creston, B.C., area.

Mr. Reid said he believes the U.S. federal government should have done more years ago, when the states of Utah and Arizona had asked for federal co-operation in investigating “the systemic lawlessness” in polygamous communities. State authorities had sought federal action on violations of federal civil rights laws by Colorado City marshals and on Internal Revenue Code violations.

“This is precisely the kind of help I believe the federal government should provide, but it has not yet done so. Your requests for federal funding to assist victims of domestic violence also merit prompt review,” Mr. Reid said.

In a statement issued from his office late Thursday, he said that human trafficking across the Canada-U.S. border was clearly a federal matter. “[He] would expect the Justice Department to review any allegations like that,” Mr. Reid's spokesman, Jon Summers, said.

Arizona's Mr. Goddard said he recently spoke briefly to B.C. Attorney-General Wally Oppal about the U.S. response to the polygamous communities. Mr. Oppal seemed “very interested,” he said.

In Arizona, authorities have tried to ensure that the law applies without stigmatizing the FLDS communities for their religion, Mr. Goddard said. Authorities in Arizona have gone after allegations of child abuse in the communities and after police who took orders from the church. The state government has taken over the school district because it was run by the FLDS hierarchy and not for the benefit of the children, he said.

It is up to the federal government to look into tax evasion, possible welfare fraud and civil rights violations, especially those committed against young men thrown out of the community, Mr. Goddard said.

The actions in Arizona are in marked contrast to activities in Canada. Polygamy is illegal in Canada, but no one at Bountiful has ever faced charges for bigamy. Mr. Oppal is currently deliberating whether to refer a question on the constitutionality of Canada's polygamy law to the B.C. Court of Appeal. He told reporters this week he expected to announce his decision within two or three weeks.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: canada; childabuse; flds; polygamy

1 posted on 05/08/2008 7:42:17 PM PDT by Politicalmom
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To: NYpeanut; the808bass; brytlea; pandoraou812; ricks_place; CindyDawg; Huntress; Pebcak; ...

PING!!

FReepmail to be added to the FLDS Eldorado Legal Case Ping List


2 posted on 05/08/2008 7:42:48 PM PDT by Politicalmom (It's the child abuse, stupid!!)
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To: Politicalmom

Meanwhile, millions sneak into our country and rob us of billions in benefits, Iran is building nuclear weapons and we are in an oil addiction to the Middle East. Yeah, this is important!


3 posted on 05/08/2008 7:45:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only Hillary or Obama can!)
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To: Politicalmom
It is up to the federal government to look into tax evasion, possible welfare fraud and civil rights violations, especially those committed against young men thrown out of the community, Mr. Goddard said.

Hmmm I will wait & see the results.

4 posted on 05/08/2008 7:46:24 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (adrift in a sea of madness)
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To: Politicalmom

Nice to know the fedguv has its priorities in order. /sarcasm


5 posted on 05/08/2008 7:50:43 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Yeah, this is important!”

(if you can stop the tolerance of polygamy because it hides behind religion, then you have a tool to stop the Muslims from bringing in polygamy, and all their other ‘doctrines’, especially the ‘kill all dhimmi’s” one.)


6 posted on 05/08/2008 8:42:55 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all pesters)
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To: pandoraou812; Politicalmom
“VANCOUVER — The United States has appointed a federal prosecutor to work with state and local authorities on bringing an end to lawlessness in polygamous communities, an investigation that may extend to finding a way to stop the so-called polygamy underground railway across the Canada-U.S. border.”
~~~
Well now,,,’Bout them “camp~grounds”? ,,,

Who takes them in ?,,,

Where did the San Diego bunch go ?,,,

IMO we ain't got past the tip of the iceberg Yet!...:0/

7 posted on 05/08/2008 10:02:59 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: elkfersupper
Nice to know the fedguv has its priorities in order. /sarcasm

Well, let's see. It's been exactly 55 years since they've been intentional about prosecuting polygamists. (I guess once every 55 years is too often for you, eh?)

Even with the state of Texas, it took a phone call 4 years into their presence there to act.

8 posted on 05/08/2008 11:25:35 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This group & others like it have been abusing welfare for many years. Maybe you don't find it important but I do. I think we have to stop it for the abuse of the children & for further cases of polygamy. It is illegal & it is costing us quite a bit. I don't want to pay for some man to have multi wives & countless children. Not to mention the other scams that have been done by the FLDS. There are many victims here who didn't ask to be in this mess. If we can try to fix things in other countries then we can fix our home grown problems too. Are we to just keep letting it go on?
9 posted on 05/09/2008 12:23:53 AM PDT by pandoraou812 (adrift in a sea of madness)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
IMO we ain't got past the tip of the iceberg Yet!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I hear you & I am thinking so much more is going to come out & be very ugly.

10 posted on 05/09/2008 12:25:35 AM PDT by pandoraou812 (adrift in a sea of madness)
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To: pandoraou812

LOL
Forget CAnada, the poly colonies are in Mexico and been been since before the US Civil War (War of Northern Aggression)

A bit of history
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_colonies_in_Mexico
found on WIki of all places....


11 posted on 05/09/2008 2:20:02 PM PDT by ASOC (Training Storungen werden auf Papier notiert. Taktische Storungen werden im Stein geatzt. Gen Rommel)
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To: ASOC
I knew about MX too. But thought it was not related to Warren Jeffs FLDS.

http://www.dentonrc.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/050808dnmexicomormons.dc0e95bf.html

12 posted on 05/09/2008 2:47:35 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (adrift in a sea of madness)
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To: Colofornian
Well, let's see. It's been exactly 55 years since they've been intentional about prosecuting polygamists. (I guess once every 55 years is too often for you, eh?)

And your point is........what?

13 posted on 05/09/2008 7:20:59 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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