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Propaganda-driven kids attack think tank (Barf Alert)
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | May 09, 2008 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 05/08/2008 9:42:52 PM PDT by Jacob Kell

Students at a California public school have written a series of letters to Chicago's Heartland Institute, which works to discover and develop free-market solutions to society's problems, attacking its members for "destroying our planet" by refusing to endorse the politics of Al Gore's "An Inconvenient Truth" film.

According to students in the sixth-grade class of teacher Michael Steria at David A. Brown Middle School, the institute consists of "fools" and "horrible people."

"I think your (sic) fools for denying G.W. you know it could kill us all & you're just adding to it. I want you to help stop G.W. not increase it," said one letter.

"We are going to tell you about global warming. I don't care if you don't want to read, but I'm making you read it you horrible people," said another.

Officials at the school, a part of the Lake Elsinore School District, declined to respond to WND requests for a comment. Officials at the district office also declined to respond.

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Sixth graders are 11-12 years old, aren't they? The Left's indoctrination sure starts early, doesn't it?
1 posted on 05/08/2008 9:42:52 PM PDT by Jacob Kell
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To: Jacob Kell

Defund the NEA. It is just another arm of the DNC.


2 posted on 05/08/2008 9:46:38 PM PDT by weegee ("I didn't kill innocent people." - Bill Ayers, Weatherman. Terrorist. Obama's comrade.)
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To: Jacob Kell

Is there no recourse to public schools brainwashing peoples kids? How the hell is it that these people are not being arrested?


3 posted on 05/08/2008 9:48:08 PM PDT by VR-21
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To: Jacob Kell
Sixth graders are 11-12 years old, aren't they? The Left's indoctrination sure starts early, doesn't it?

It starts well before that age.

4 posted on 05/08/2008 9:49:40 PM PDT by Bob
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To: Jacob Kell

It is this type of indoctrination that obliterates a childs respect for parents who don’t also preach whatever the schools are teaching. The NEA needs a grenade placed under the desk.


5 posted on 05/08/2008 9:53:34 PM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: Jacob Kell

Government schools delenda est.


6 posted on 05/08/2008 9:54:34 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: Jacob Kell
"I think your (sic) fools for denying G.W. you know it could kill us all & you're just adding to it. I want you to help stop G.W. not increase it," said one letter.

It seems to me that these students' class hours could be better spent in the study of spelling, grammar, and style.

7 posted on 05/08/2008 9:56:35 PM PDT by Huntress (Barack Obama--Not just another empty suit.)
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To: Jacob Kell
Send them back a copy of this Thomas Sowell essay titled A Childish Letter.
8 posted on 05/08/2008 9:57:45 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Huntress

They would not have passed 6th grade when I was in it 15 years ago.


9 posted on 05/08/2008 10:02:08 PM PDT by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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To: Jacob Kell
The left has a long history of using early education for indoctrination. Kindergartens started in Prussia in the 19th Century, with the idea that “the government is the true parent of the children, the state is sovereign over the family.”
10 posted on 05/08/2008 10:03:09 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: TheWasteLand

The exact same thing the Democrats believe today.


11 posted on 05/08/2008 10:04:29 PM PDT by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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To: Jacob Kell

The public schools push left wing indoctrination on children. The only thing saving us is that most left wing public school teachers are so lazy and incompetent that the kids don’t follow half the stuff they are taught. It gets worse every year.


12 posted on 05/08/2008 10:05:22 PM PDT by detective
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To: Jacob Kell

There are too many “teachers” going into education so that they can finally be the “smartest” kid in the classroom — and can tell all the others what to do and think.


13 posted on 05/08/2008 10:10:13 PM PDT by MikeHu
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To: Question_Assumptions

Thank you for the link to Dr. Sowell’s essay. I think it deserves its own thread, so I have started one. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2013460/posts?page=1


14 posted on 05/08/2008 10:12:56 PM PDT by Huntress (Barack Obama--Not just another empty suit.)
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To: Jacob Kell
My fourth grade daughter was the only one in her class that didn't raise her hand when asked if they think that global warming is man made. She was called out by the teacher on it and asked “why not?” She had time to give three reasons - we used to have a mile of glaciers on top of us that melted before man was even around, man made greenhouse gases only add about 1/4 of one percent to the natural greenhouse gases, and the sun's cycles (sun spots) correspond to cool and hot times on earth back to the time of the Vikings.

I was so proud, and I think the teacher was a bit taken aback. (Me too actually, I'm surprised she remembered that much of what we have discussed!)

The weekly readers magazines they bring home and our dinner conversations reveal a lot of what they get taught.

15 posted on 05/08/2008 10:13:44 PM PDT by 21twelve (Don't wish for peace. Pray for Victory.)
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To: 21twelve

Kudos to you - you’ve done well. Perhaps the other kids in her class actually learned something that day.


16 posted on 05/08/2008 10:17:42 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom ("My advice: Quit supporting the party that is symbolized by an ass." Ted Nugent)
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To: Jacob Kell
It seems to me that they should have broken out the red pencils and corrected the spelling and grammar in the letters, and sent them back to the principle of the school, and sent copies to the head of the school district, along with a letter stating that before engaging in propaganda, they might want to start by teaching the children how to spell and write a simple letter.

Mark

17 posted on 05/08/2008 10:20:09 PM PDT by MarkL
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To: Jacob Kell

It’s up to parents to debrief their children regularly and tell them the truth. That’s what I did with my kids. I told them to smile, puke back whatever liberal twaddle the teachers wanted to see on their tests, homework, and papers, and get an ‘A’. I taught them to laugh to themselves in the knowledge that they were getting over on their idiot teachers.


18 posted on 05/08/2008 10:25:07 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: MarkL
It seems to me that they should have broken out the red pencils and corrected the spelling and grammar in the letters, and sent them back to the principle of the school, and sent copies to the head of the school district, along with a letter stating that before engaging in propaganda, they might want to start by teaching the children how to spell and write a simple letter.

Excellent!! Great post.

19 posted on 05/08/2008 10:27:12 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: 21twelve

Your daughter is smarter than my Stepmother. I swear that she’s unable to reason.

I also brought up the whole “ice age” thing, and how these ice ages and warming occur in cycles. And how I wanted a pet sabertooth tiger, but they became extinct before people were around (I think that she believes that humans caused the extinction of dinosaurs too, but she hasn’t admitted it publicly).

Do you remember when it came out that Mars was also going through “global warming” and the ice caps were shrinking? Proof positive that the “warming” effect is coming from the sun.

But my Stepmother couldn’t understand that “greenhouse gasses” and SUVs on earth don’t have too much of an effect on the climate of Mars. In fact, every time I mentioned that we’re dealing with another planet entirely, and there are no people on it at all, she kept going back to how we’re the ones causing “global warming” on Mars, if it’s getting hot there too.

She really doesn’t get it. The scary thing is that she does vote.

Mark


20 posted on 05/08/2008 10:28:39 PM PDT by MarkL
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To: Jacob Kell

I was able to make a DVD copy of the Great Global Warming Swindle before it was pulled from the Internet. (I understand it is now back.)

Anyway, I gave a copy of it to a high school teacher who was conducting a class in current events. He had shown them “An Inconvenient Truth” and to his credit was looking for something to counter Gore’s opus. He said that the film generated the most discussion yet on any topic presented.

It’s encouraging that at least some instructors are interested in teaching their students to think and analyze.


21 posted on 05/08/2008 10:32:43 PM PDT by DeFault User
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To: MarkL

“She really doesn’t get it. The scary thing is that she does vote.”

Back a few years ago when the Mars ice caps were in the news I made the joking comment to a client about how “all these SUVs and our CO2 its getting so bad that now even the Mars icecaps are melting”. I figured he would realize the absurdity because of his profession. Instead he commented something like “The Mar’s ice caps are now melting too? We really need to get on top of this RIGHT now, but nothing will happen with Bush and Big Oil in office, etc.”

Oh - his profession? An environmental engineer. That’s scary!


22 posted on 05/08/2008 10:39:56 PM PDT by 21twelve (Don't wish for peace. Pray for Victory.)
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To: Jacob Kell; mollynme
Around a decade ago, one of my brothers in Norway told us of ugly school-based propaganda targeted against Norwegians, who had resumed whaling after certain species had rebounded to harvestable levels.

He said that grade school teachers in the US and other European countries taught their classes lies about whales being in great danger of extinction due to Norway's supposedly cruel, genocidal rampage. The teachers had been supplied with names & addresses of Norwegian teachers and schools, and Norwegian newspapers. The propaganda they fed the kids (no doubt from lesson plans they didn't write themselves) drove many kids to intense states of pain, tears, terror and hysteria.

Then the kids were told it was up to them to write letters that might just very well save the whales from extinction, or at least from merciless slaughter. The teachers gathered up these begging, pleading, borderline-hysteria letters, some of which had little margin notes from the teachers pointing out the tear-stains in case the reader might miss them, and mailed them off to various addresses in Norway.

My impression was that this was more counter-productive than productive, as it infuriated many Norwegians to witness how outside pressure groups with political axes to grind were willing to manipulate children, no matter what collateral damage might be done, to gain their objectives.

23 posted on 05/08/2008 10:43:34 PM PDT by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
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To: MarkL
should have broken out the red pencils and corrected the spelling and grammar in the letters, and sent them back to the principle

and sent them back to the principle al

Sorry! Just couldn't resist that one!

24 posted on 05/08/2008 11:05:42 PM PDT by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
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To: B4Ranch

When I was 10 years old, a white 20 something teacher came to my mostly White, middle class Jewish school to teach us “Black Studies.” Not only did we go to see the movie SOUNDER, have to memorize the lyrics to Diana Ross’s I’M LIVING IN SHAME, we were bussed to Wyandanch (at the time, the only predominantly black school on Long Island) to see “THE BLACK CHILDREN” I am not making that up.

After months of this, I came home, looked my Father in the eye and said, “YOU AND YOUR FAMILY ARE THE REASON BLACKS ARE DISCRIMINATED AGAINSt.” I have never seen my dear Father look so mad in his life. He sat me down and gave me the “Listen up Little girl” speech and proceeded to tell me the history of my family, how they came from Hungary fighting oppression and how my grandfather skimped and saved to make a better life for his children. I became a Conservative that day.

Here’s my point. This kind of indoctrination has been going on for years. That story was 38 years ago. Those white, middle class Jewish kids from Long Island are now the ones who are running the Country now...there worldview based in guilt. And that, my friend, is the sad truth.


25 posted on 05/08/2008 11:42:04 PM PDT by Hildy (It is our choices, far more than our abilities, that determine who we truly are. - J.K. Rowling)
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To: Jacob Kell

mike.steria@leusd.k12.ca.us

I found this “teacher’s” email address...I’m gonna let him know how I really feel about this


26 posted on 05/08/2008 11:52:40 PM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: Huntress
just teach them how to make change in American dollar's without a calculator, the rest will fall into place
27 posted on 05/08/2008 11:58:10 PM PDT by KingNo155
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To: darkangel82
Kindergartens started in Prussia in the 19th Century, with the idea that “the government is the true parent of the children

I align with Jungian philosophy...a favorite quote from Jung: "the number one goal in life is to parent oneself....very few reach that in their lifetimes....". This is the socialist agenda...to indoctrinate everyone to never mature and view the state/government as parent once raised by your own...

28 posted on 05/09/2008 12:04:49 AM PDT by Niteflyr ("If you’re drawing flak, you know you're over the target".)
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To: Niteflyr

And we see that in today’s ‘rat voting base.


29 posted on 05/09/2008 12:19:15 AM PDT by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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To: MarkL

She reminds me of the woman I used to work with who was scared to touch the computers because she thought she’d get a virus. Yikes.


30 posted on 05/09/2008 12:26:11 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Jacob Kell

Thanks for the posting; I am not very interested in polite discussion amongst the informed. Screaming the facts is the only way you get someones attention. That’s what Gore did and there hasn’t been any real rebuttal on the subject except that nerd who studied the NASA data base and found huge flaws. The problem must be the instructors in these schools are as dumb as sticks and aren’t able to see the forest because of too many trees. As far as I have read there doesn’t seem to be any money to prove Gore is a fool. The one story that had government agreement was that case in England where the judge put restrictions on English schools due to real science disputing Gore’s insanity. Don’’t forget that the teachers have been sent through the same educational system, receiving the same training dumbing down everyone so degenerates can get a diploma. This is the real problem IMO.


31 posted on 05/09/2008 12:29:11 AM PDT by machenation ("it can't happen here" Frank Zappa)
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To: Jacob Kell
And the sad thing is that people actually believe this garbage.

If somebody wants to create a car engine that will get 75-100 mpg, I think it is wonderful...if only for the fact that it will cut down on my gas budget every payday.

I would say that the same goes for electrical-generating power plants, except that I live in Kentucky and we have extremely low electrical costs thanks to the power plants burning local coal. But it would still be nice for the rest of the country.

32 posted on 05/09/2008 12:39:47 AM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory. - George Patton)
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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC

I couldn’t remember which one it was, so I just used the first one I thought of. Too lazy to find a dictionary or go to dictionary.com.

Oh well.

Mark


33 posted on 05/09/2008 2:33:07 AM PDT by MarkL
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To: Jacob Kell
I have just come to the realization that the left is responsible for global warming. One of those ‘unintended consequences’ the left is know for.

A Nuke power plant, in southern Indiana, would replace 3 coal fired power plants and would have been operational in 1977. 31 years of spewing CO2. Do you think these kids will ever hear about this? No, suppression of facts to support misplaced emotional responses is their forte.

34 posted on 05/09/2008 2:53:01 AM PDT by truemiester ((If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years))
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To: MarkL

That would be a great idea!


35 posted on 05/09/2008 3:09:01 AM PDT by Adder (typical bitter white person)
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To: Jacob Kell

This article and the one by Sowell are a perfect pairing. This one reminds me to point out that it is child abuse for political activists to frighten children for political gain. I remember that during the heyday of the nuclear freeze movement, teachers and invited guests were describing in vivid detail to children in classrooms how they would be fried if a nuclear weapon were detonated. Then, when the children,predictably, had nightmares, they were trotted out before the media to say how frightened they were.

This all post-dated the end of the war in Japan, and the fact that no more nuclear weapons were ever used never caused a single nuclear freeze activist to apologize for using the children as propaganda. Probably many of those same activists are now beating today’s children over the heads with the threats to their well-being from global warming.

Parents could have stopped this both times by vociferous complaints to the schools and the media.


36 posted on 05/09/2008 3:11:51 AM PDT by Knutsdatter
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To: Niteflyr
This is the socialist agenda...to indoctrinate everyone to never mature and view the state/government as parent once raised by your own...

Wasn't it "Pony Tail Boy" who was asking Bill Clinton about the American people as his "children?"

Mark

37 posted on 05/09/2008 3:16:20 AM PDT by MarkL
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To: Jacob Kell

This is another reason why, if we ever want to be free men again, the public schools should be abolished.

Public schools are nothing but socialist indoctrination camps that also help people learn to accept arbitrary exertions of power by “the proper authorities”.


38 posted on 05/09/2008 3:16:39 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (You all are the slaves that you deserve to be. You people get the government that you deserve.)
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To: MarkL
It seems to me that they should have broken out the red pencils and corrected the spelling and grammar in the letters, and sent them back to the principle

-5 points.

39 posted on 05/09/2008 3:27:52 AM PDT by humblegunner (Che is Gay)
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Here are my thoughts on the subject.

This kind of B.S. and C.F. are why I and far more people than not support the concept of home schooling.

What the dumba***s and p***heads running this school are doing is absolutely and postively criminal as far as I'm concerned. These sorry, lazymiserable good for nothing p***heads all belong in prison.

All I can say is if this is the future of America than we are al in big, big trouble.

40 posted on 05/09/2008 4:50:52 AM PDT by E.G.C. (To read a freeper's FR postings, click on his or her screen name and then "In Forum".)
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To: Jacob Kell

I don’t blame the kids, their just kids.
I don,t even blame the teahecer. After all most seem to be born from the far left. I blame the parents. if my child came home and said they had to write such a letter I would have them out of that school so fats the tax base would shudder.....


41 posted on 05/09/2008 5:11:59 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Patriot Guard Riders - Standing for those that stood for us.)
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To: Jacob Kell

This is the fruit of Nationalized Education, Nationalized Health care qill be worse.

BTW - the model the socialists have used is that of NAZI Germany.

So as we sit by the National Socialists are nationalizing one segment after another of our ecomomy.


42 posted on 05/09/2008 5:24:57 AM PDT by stockpirate (20,000,000 reasons to NOT support McCain, immigration.)
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To: stockpirate

Juan McCain buys into this crap along with our most recent sellout Newt the Green Witch.


43 posted on 05/09/2008 5:36:17 AM PDT by stockpirate (20,000,000 reasons to NOT support McCain, immigration.)
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To: MarkL

For MarkL:

“I couldn’t remember which one it was, so I just used the first one I thought of. Too lazy to find a dictionary or go to dictionary.com.”

That’s easy: The principal is your “pal”

NOT to MarkL, just venting:

I won’t even start on my peeves like ‘definite’ (the root-word is ‘FINITE’, not ‘finate’) and the endless misuse of apostrophe’s (<-— yes, that is sarcasm), there, their, and they’re and the always mis-used your and you’re...

Gee, I’m turning into a grump, huh?

P.


44 posted on 05/09/2008 5:48:34 AM PDT by Peet (Insert clever phrase here.)
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To: MarkL

The think tank should also send them to the PTA and school board and city council. Let those who have power over the schools “have a say” in what goes on there.


45 posted on 05/09/2008 7:04:22 AM PDT by weegee ("I didn't kill innocent people." - Bill Ayers, Weatherman. Terrorist. Obama's comrade.)
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To: Lancey Howard

But students SHOULDN’T have to puke back liberal crap to keep from getting “passed over” or a bad grade.


46 posted on 05/09/2008 7:06:50 AM PDT by weegee ("I didn't kill innocent people." - Bill Ayers, Weatherman. Terrorist. Obama's comrade.)
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To: MarkL
Intelligent Design cannot be taught in schools but the myth of man made global warming can and is presented as established fact.

But my Stepmother couldn’t understand that “greenhouse gasses” and SUVs on earth don’t have too much of an effect on the climate of Mars. In fact, every time I mentioned that we’re dealing with another planet entirely, and there are no people on it at all, she kept going back to how we’re the ones causing “global warming” on Mars, if it’s getting hot there too.

47 posted on 05/09/2008 7:12:03 AM PDT by weegee ("I didn't kill innocent people." - Bill Ayers, Weatherman. Terrorist. Obama's comrade.)
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To: Jacob Kell
IMHO

Many people are scared and feeling helpless. They teach or let their children be taught the same fears and attitudes that they feel those feelings don't depend on logic, they just depend on emotions, and to many, the greater the emotional distress, the more those feelings must be true and they don't let facts get in the way of that distress.

In the absence of any real leadership those in distress (real or imagined) will cling to any voice that is loud enough or agrees with their emotional state.
48 posted on 05/09/2008 7:21:14 AM PDT by The Louiswu (Just say NO... to Hillary and O'Bama)
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To: machenation
A few months ago my NYTimes reading, otherwise smart friend, told me, with her arms folded in front of her that “there is a consensus now GW is true”.

Nothing I could say could give her any doubt, she read Gore's words printed in the NYT.

49 posted on 05/09/2008 7:46:31 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter
A few months ago my NYTimes reading, otherwise smart friend, told me, with her arms folded in front of her that “there is a consensus now GW is true”.

Remind him there was consensus on Weapons of Mass Destruction too.

While that wouldn't mean much to you nad me, it's going to hit a weak spot with him.

50 posted on 05/09/2008 8:04:33 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (OVERPRODUCTION......... one of the top five worries for American farmers.)
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