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Ramsay orders seasonal-only menu [chef wants UK to outlaw out-of-season produce in restaurants]
BBC ^ | May 9, 2008

Posted on 05/09/2008 10:46:08 AM PDT by John Jorsett

Celebrity chef Gordon Ramsay says British restaurants should be fined if they serve fruit and vegetables which are not in season.

He told the BBC that fruit and vegetables should be locally-sourced and only on menus when in season.

Mr Ramsay said he had already spoken to Prime Minister Gordon Brown about outlawing out-of-season produce.

He says it would cut carbon emissions as less food would be imported and also lead to improved standards of cooking.

'Out of control'

The TV chef said it was "fundamentally important" for chefs to provide locally-sourced food.

"Fruit and veg should be seasonal," he said. "Chefs should be fined if they haven't got ingredients in season on their menu.

"I don't want to see asparagus on in the middle of December. I don't want to see strawberries from Kenya in the middle of March. I want to see it home grown."

Ramsay, whose London restaurants include Petrus, The Savoy Grill and Maze, added that Britain had become a nation of lazy eaters, following trends and fads, rather than substance.

He also said chefs became "lazy" when excited by "frills", and making out-of-season produce illegal would raise "levels of inspiration".

"There should be stringent laws, licensing laws, to make sure produce is only used in season and season only," he said.

"If we don't restrict our movements within this industry of seasonal-produce only, then the whole thing will spiral out of control."

Canned insult

Meanwhile, Terry Jones from the National Farmers Union (NFU) said that, while he agrees with the chef's complaint, legislation would be going too far.

He said: "We've almost got too much legislation in food and farming as things stand.

"Really what we need to see is that passion and that commitment to seasonality being pushed into consumer education and into this commitment on menu transparency."

And the Soil Association's Food for Life Partnership director Emma Noble said the celebrity chef was right to suggest that "seasonal menus are a key step in cutting the environmental impact of our food".

Famous for his bad temper, Ramsay also spoke passionately about another environmental concern - plastic bags - saying they simply "did not make sense".

Speaking to the BBC before the start of the fourth series of his Channel 4 show The F Word, the father-of-four said he plans to get the nation back into the kitchen, cooking healthy, wholesome fare.

He says the obesity problem in the UK could soon rival that of the States, and he blames parents for giving into children and not having the discipline to say no.

He also vented his anger at fellow TV chef Delia Smith, whose latest book, How to Cheat at Cooking, encourages people to mix together ready-made food rather than cook from scratch if they are short of time or on a tight budget.

He said: "I would expect students struggling on £15 a week to survive eating from a can but the nation's favourite, all-time icon reducing us down to using frozen, canned food. It's an insult.

"And it makes our lives, from a chef's point of view, a lot harder. Here we are trying to establish a reputation across the world for this country's food and along comes Delia and tips it out of a can. That hurts."


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1 posted on 05/09/2008 10:46:09 AM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: John Jorsett

What little I’ve seen of this ass I’ve disliked. Now I have a new reason.


2 posted on 05/09/2008 10:46:56 AM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: John Jorsett
"I don't want to see asparagus on in the middle of December."

But I do, Chef. Don't I recall you getting in someone's face about how popular your restaurants are?

3 posted on 05/09/2008 10:48:14 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: John Jorsett

What an ass this guy is. I wonder how he acts when he gets a bad review, probably like a petulant child.


4 posted on 05/09/2008 10:48:32 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: John Jorsett
Hey, you glorified hash-slinger, stick to cooking and leave the science and politics to folks with some talent for thinking.
5 posted on 05/09/2008 10:49:30 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: John Jorsett

Now he’s advocating Food Police? Idiot.


6 posted on 05/09/2008 10:49:58 AM PDT by ladtx ( "Never miss a good chance to shut up." - - Will Rogers)
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To: John Jorsett

Ramsay always has risotto on the menu. I didn’t realize there was such a thriving rice industry in London.


7 posted on 05/09/2008 10:51:44 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: John Jorsett
Gordon Ramsey: "Save the Asparagus, Butcher the Baby Lambs!"


8 posted on 05/09/2008 10:54:03 AM PDT by avacado
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To: John Jorsett

Hey Ramsey: Get back in the kitchen and make me a sammich, BITCH.


9 posted on 05/09/2008 10:54:23 AM PDT by lesser_satan (Save the earth. Make biofuels out of eco-fascists.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

He’s British, everything he prepares is overcooked and underspiced if he is into tradition anyways.

That’s why people are not sticking to their traditional fare, they had a taste of something far better and won’t let some egotistical egg beater get his panties in a twist and try to keep them from it for traditions sake.

I would love to send back a meal at one of his restaurants just to see how he would react to the criticism.


10 posted on 05/09/2008 10:55:41 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: ladtx

He has a point though, that we are importing various foods from various countries now...creating a wave of trade that didn’t exist before. All of this requires fuel/oil...and we are simply adding to our fuel footprint. Even if we are paying 40 percent more for that out of season product...as part of the fuel requirements...we don’t seem to care. Beneath it all...Gordon has a point.


11 posted on 05/09/2008 10:56:28 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: John Jorsett

Oooh, the Vegetable King has spoken. Glad I am not HIS subject. Molon labe (my out-of-season vegetables).


12 posted on 05/09/2008 10:57:32 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: John Jorsett

I’ve seen this ass-hat on TV and he is revolting. Every third word that comes out of his mouth is bleeped. I’m not kidding. Now I like him even less (not that I liked him anyway.)


13 posted on 05/09/2008 10:58:15 AM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: John Jorsett

Looking for a rickets rebound?!?


14 posted on 05/09/2008 10:58:57 AM PDT by MortMan (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything. - Alexander Hamilton)
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To: John Jorsett

What bothers me in this is that the DBM perceives it as a story about a “celebrity’s” quirks, when in fact it’s a part of a carefully calculated and pernicious effort by the socialist left to politicize food—precisely as Stalin did in the 20s.

And didn’t THAT turn out well!?


15 posted on 05/09/2008 10:59:58 AM PDT by libsmacker75
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To: pepsionice

Why then does he not also keep consistent with the other menu items? Doesn’t it create any “carbon emissions” to transport scallops, or kobe beef, or Chilean sea bass?


16 posted on 05/09/2008 11:01:01 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: EggsAckley

Isn’t this idiot famaliar with the concept of northern and southern hemispheres? Fruit and vegetables are always in season somewhere.


17 posted on 05/09/2008 11:02:10 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: libsmacker75

Two words....POTATO FAMINE.


18 posted on 05/09/2008 11:03:21 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: mtbopfuyn
Mmmmmmmmm . . . risotto!

Best way to use up leftovers EVER.

19 posted on 05/09/2008 11:04:18 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: John Jorsett

Ramsay is not a Chef, he’s a Kitchen Shock Jock. I watched his program once, never again...the man is a foul mouth fool.


20 posted on 05/09/2008 11:04:23 AM PDT by Gator113 (Obama is a member of the Far Wright Conspiracy.......)
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To: pepsionice

He does have a point. Despite the amount of dislike displayed for the guy, I have to admire his work ethic. He’s one who pulled himself up by his own bootstraps; he’s not afraid to get up early and work very hard. Yes, he’s rough around the edges, but he always cuts to the quick and identifies the problem with those he is trying to save from financial disaster. He’s no fool. And he’s not some upper-crust hoity-toity.


21 posted on 05/09/2008 11:08:27 AM PDT by MJemison
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To: mtbopfuyn

No bananas, olive oil, vanilla, chocolate, oranges, most wines, many fish, pecans, etc... He’s just on the “local food” fad to bring in more “socially-conscious” diners. He doesn’t really mean it or he’d be serving the customers only oats and turnips with their mutton.


22 posted on 05/09/2008 11:08:56 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("Ah! but it was something to have at least a choice of nightmares.")
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To: massgopguy

If you are referring to the Irish potato famine, you can blame that one on a zealous over-commitment of the Whig government to the principles of lassez-faire free-market economics.
Ironically, if the UK government had been socialist at that time, the effects of the famine wouldn’t have been anywhere near as devastating....


23 posted on 05/09/2008 11:13:21 AM PDT by thundrey
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To: avacado

He could use the furrows on his face to plant asparagus.


24 posted on 05/09/2008 11:15:29 AM PDT by Scarpetta (e pluribus victim)
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To: John Jorsett

25 posted on 05/09/2008 11:15:44 AM PDT by workerbee (Ladies do not start fights, but they can finish them.)
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To: pepsionice
He has a point though, that we are importing various foods from various countries now...creating a wave of trade that didn’t exist before.

Farm fish raised in a sewer, shrimp with fluoroquinolone antibiotics...

26 posted on 05/09/2008 11:20:39 AM PDT by Gorzaloon
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To: pepsionice

Too bad the government started paying farmers to turn our food supplies into gas. Kinda hard to buy local when all the farmers do is grow corn, and burn it.


27 posted on 05/09/2008 11:23:03 AM PDT by ljco (Privatizing profits and socializing losses is no way to run an economy)
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To: John Jorsett

There is a certain kind of person who can’t trust good ideas to take root on their own; they have to impose them under pain of law.

They don’t want to trust that their personal vision can compete in the commons, because they can’t abide the thought that others might disagree with them, and get away with it.

It isn’t so much what you do that bothers people like this, its that you did it without consulting them first. You acted without first getting their permission. There is no point arguing the merits of their case, if their case has merit let them act on it. When the rest of us see it work, if we like the outcome, we’ll probably copy it, adding our own wrinkle into the mix. It won’t matter; just you adding your own wrinkle will upset them just as much as anything, if you do it without permission.


28 posted on 05/09/2008 11:30:23 AM PDT by marron
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To: VanShuyten
No bananas, olive oil, vanilla, chocolate, oranges, most wines, many fish, pecans, etc... He’s just on the “local food” fad to bring in more “socially-conscious” diners. He doesn’t really mean it or he’d be serving the customers only oats and turnips with their mutton.

Hey, I've eaten at Ramsay .

Do you mean to suggest that those bananas, guavas & fresh passion fruit on the menu aren't in fact harvested down in the steamy, fecund jungles of tropical Kent?

Quel scandal! I'm truly crestfallen, I tell you!

29 posted on 05/09/2008 11:45:41 AM PDT by leilani
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To: Scarpetta
He could use the furrows on his face to plant asparagus.

LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!

30 posted on 05/09/2008 11:47:01 AM PDT by leilani
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To: John Jorsett

Regulating this sort of thing ludicrous but the main concept is fairly sensible.

The wholesale importation of fruits and veggies hasn’t expanded the number of choices, it’s just limited them to a narrow selection of transportable foods.

In 1900, the average local farm just about anywhere in the U.S. had a staggering number of different crops in 3 seasons. We forgotten these foods and wouldn’t know what to do with them if they became available.

We don’t buy foreign fruits or veggies and we grow a lot of our own. We freeze and can. Sure, I know how do things to kale that would make a grown man cry but at least we’re a little bit self-sufficient.


31 posted on 05/09/2008 11:57:04 AM PDT by Gingersnap
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To: John Jorsett

Brits won’t be called “Limeys” anymore — unless global warming brings citrus orchards to the UK.


32 posted on 05/09/2008 12:18:07 PM PDT by AZLiberty (Wipe the national hard drive and reinstall the Constitution.)
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To: AZLiberty

Groves, I mean.


33 posted on 05/09/2008 12:18:33 PM PDT by AZLiberty (Wipe the national hard drive and reinstall the Constitution.)
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To: John Jorsett

I’m with Chef Ramsay.


34 posted on 05/09/2008 12:24:42 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: John Jorsett
His cursing doesn't seem to have any season...
35 posted on 05/09/2008 12:24:53 PM PDT by paudio (Michelle Obama: a Typical Black Woman)
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To: pepsionice
All of this requires fuel/oil...and we are simply adding to our fuel footprint. Even if we are paying 40 percent more for that out of season product...as part of the fuel requirements...we don’t seem to care.

People freely spending money on things they want to buy. What is this world coming to? /watermelon off

36 posted on 05/09/2008 12:28:27 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are doom and gloomers, union members and liberals so bad at math?)
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To: pepsionice

Sorry to disagree, but this “local food” idea is absurd on it’s face.

Without imported food there would be no tea or coffee in England, no spices save salt, no citrus.

Are the British really going to sacrifice their tea and coffee on the alter of Global Warming?


37 posted on 05/09/2008 12:29:12 PM PDT by BigBobber
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To: John Jorsett
I watched this megalomaniac for a short while because he was entertaining.

But a little goes a long way. The curiosity lasted not much longer than a month.

There was something very odd about the guy.

38 posted on 05/09/2008 1:24:25 PM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
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To: John Jorsett

When I buy fresh produce, I tend to buy stuff that is ‘in season’ in the USA for two reasons:

1. That is when it is the best.
2. That is when it is the cheapest.

I used to break down and buy a peach or melon out of season from time to time, but they always looked better than they tasted.


39 posted on 05/09/2008 1:53:06 PM PDT by goldfinch
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To: John Jorsett; IrishCatholic; Normandy; Delacon; TenthAmendmentChampion; Horusra; CygnusXI; ...
"(Mr Ramsay) says it would cut carbon emissions as less food would be imported and also lead to improved standards of cooking. "

One word: "FRUIT".  

Reminder
This Sunday on C-Span 2:

 


40 posted on 05/09/2008 2:44:43 PM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: MJemison
I have to admire his work ethic.

Everything you said. To heck w/his mouth. I've been known to drop the F bomb on occiassion, so what? Have you seen the idiots on his shows? They're lucky he's not throwing food at them.

The guy gets down in the dirt, cleans kitchens, helps people who really need it because he understands that for many of them their restaurant is their family's livelihood and that people will lose their houses, savings, etc. if the restaurant fails because of some foolishness that can be fixed. He helps young people make cooking careers for themselves. It's not just slinging hash, it's a way of life for some, and a chance to have a clean, successful life for others. So he curses, big deal. Plus, on American tv they bleep a lot of it anyway, so the delicate flowers won't get offended.

btw - I could live without hearing 'risotto' again.

41 posted on 05/09/2008 3:08:57 PM PDT by radiohead (I stood up for Fred at the Iowa Caucus. Where were the rest of you so-called conservatives?)
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To: BigBobber
Without imported food there would be no tea

No longer strictly true. Tea is now cultivated in Cornwall.

42 posted on 05/10/2008 12:55:47 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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