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ICE: Law Doesn't Bar Illegals from College
UPI ^ | May 9, '08 | Staff

Posted on 05/10/2008 7:18:55 AM PDT by T.L.Sink

There is no federal law banning states from admitting illegal immigrants to colleges and universities, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement said. The statement contradicts a letter issued this week by the North Carolina Attorney General, who advised the State Community College System that federal law prohibits the admission of illegal immigrants to public colleges and universities. "The Department of Homeland Security does not require any school to determine a student's status," the department said.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: academia; aliens; bleedingusdry; bloodsuckers; crimaliens; education; immigrantlist; immigration
Feel bad because qualified students are being bumped by the unqualified by affirmative action? To that we can now add that citizen students may be bumped to make room for illegal aliens. By the way, most state and community colleges are funded by taxpayers. So now we've discovered one more way to add the many ways we already subsidize illegals!
1 posted on 05/10/2008 7:18:55 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink
There would be no criminal invader admission problem if they had been thrown back across the river?

Throw weight for this model is 300 pounds.

2 posted on 05/10/2008 7:23:49 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Do we really want either Huma Abedin or Michelle Obama answering the White House phone at 3 AM?)
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To: ASA Vet

That totally works!


3 posted on 05/10/2008 7:28:42 AM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) Praise God and pass the ammunition!)
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To: T.L.Sink
There is no federal law banning states from admitting illegal immigrants to colleges and universities,

Like wise, there is no federal law granting the dept of home land security the rights to supersede the state constitution and the laws of the state.

4 posted on 05/10/2008 7:32:15 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: T.L.Sink

I declare that if a college or university has a policy that admits illegals, all Federal monies should be immediately cut off.


5 posted on 05/10/2008 7:45:57 AM PDT by levotb
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To: T.L.Sink

But won’t they miss a lot of classes? What with the federal government enforcing the laws that DO exist, protecting our borders and all? /ssssssarc


6 posted on 05/10/2008 7:47:04 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: T.L.Sink

The malfeasance of our government continues. Votes clearly remain far more important than the integrity of America and its system of laws, the security of our nation, and the value of American citizenship. As long as voters continue to put power-driven pols in Washington, this travesty will continue.


7 posted on 05/10/2008 7:48:48 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA
As long as voters continue to put power-driven pols in Washington...

Governement always and only attracts this type of people. This is precisely why the founders limited the power of government itself, via the Constitution.

Now if only we could find a copy of this Constitution, we could have it Xerox'd and distributed around Washington. Then the illegal overreaches of these power-driven folks would be brought to a screeching halt. /sarc

But seriously... It is apparent the Constitution itself is inadequate to the task of restraining the federal government.
8 posted on 05/10/2008 8:03:07 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: T.L.Sink

Not only that but, in California, illegals are able to claim in-state tuition. Out of state Americans have to pay more than illegals to attend state funded universities (UCLA, Berkeley, etc.).


9 posted on 05/10/2008 8:04:40 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: originalbuckeye
Out of state Americans have to pay more than illegals to attend state
funded universities (UCLA, Berkeley, etc.).


Which is of course, illegal. As law says government can't give
a benefit to illegals unless it's also extended to legal residents
and citizens of the USA.

Some law professor at U-Missouri at Kansas City is representing some
real-American students in a law suit on this. (Because places like
California are breaking the law).
10 posted on 05/10/2008 8:12:56 AM PDT by VOA
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To: org.whodat

I prefer Michelle Malkin’s title: Department of Homeland Insecurity.


11 posted on 05/10/2008 8:27:33 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: EagleUSA

I agree. In addition to the multitude of problems the illegal invasion is bringing us, it’s also incredible that the government is oblivious to dangers of insecure borders in this age of international terrorism.


12 posted on 05/10/2008 8:31:52 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink

“There is no federal law banning states from admitting illegal immigrants to colleges and universities, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement said.”

‘I’m not a smart man, but...’ (Forrest Gump)

Seems to me that the “illegal” part of illegal immigrant kinda covers it.


13 posted on 05/10/2008 8:40:58 AM PDT by AbnSarge
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To: T.L.Sink
"The Department of Homeland Security does not require any school to determine a student's status," the department said.


14 posted on 05/10/2008 8:42:44 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: LearsFool; All

Article.IV., Section.4: The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Governmet, and shall protect each of them against Invasion.

Obviously, this part of the Constitution is being ignored and the foreign invasion continues apace. The plain English meaning and original intent are clear. But if the government is controlled by ethnocentric pressure groups, special-interest business lobbies and activist judges with a liberal agenda, it doesn’t matter what the law says. It’s ignored or misinterpreted to suit their interests.


15 posted on 05/10/2008 8:45:12 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: ASA Vet

I would definately call that a “crew-served weapon.”

Although, I suppose on guy could use it, with a firing rate of about one round a month.

And it needs aiming stakes.


16 posted on 05/10/2008 8:48:33 AM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: T.L.Sink
Those in Congress who ignore the US Constitution have a reason.

"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious.
But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.
But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself.
For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men.
He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist.
A murderer is less to be feared."

-- Marcus Tullius Cicero

17 posted on 05/10/2008 8:50:08 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: AbnSarge

Right - but you’ve got common sense and that gets us nowhere with the open-borders crew!


18 posted on 05/10/2008 8:50:56 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink

And if Americans don’t like it, our government will import Mexicans to vote for it - just another “job Americans won’t do.”


19 posted on 05/10/2008 8:54:09 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Diogenesis

A very appropriate quote. Cicero speaks to every age. Here’s another quote that I think is compatable: “Those who do not remember the past are condemned to relive it.” - Santayana


20 posted on 05/10/2008 8:59:31 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: LearsFool

Exactly right. Meanwhile we’re paying ever-increasing taxes for prison incarceration, bankrupt public school districts, insolvent hospitsls forced to cut back public emergency services, social welfare costs and the ravages of the drug cartel.


21 posted on 05/10/2008 9:07:55 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink

You got that right.

I was listening to talk radio here in SoCal, John and Ken, KFI 640, and they had on the wife of one of the border patrol men.

She was telling the story of how her boy, 8, was not well and she did not have health insurance, nor did she qualify for Medicaid, because she had a car worth $2,000. They would not admit her boy even though he was very ill, had been for four days, and argued with her for almost an hour, demanding that she pay $1,000 before they would admit her son for care. He was dehydrated, unable to keep food down and his kidneys were hurting and her doctor had sent her to the hospital to be admitted because he needed care, now.

So, how many Americans have DIED trying to get care while illegals have gotten in free? I would bet it has happened, and that the middle class American this has happened to doesn’t have the means to fight back. Count on it.


22 posted on 05/10/2008 9:25:41 AM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: VOA
I'm glad to hear it. It is really aggravating to know that my tax dollars are subsidizing illegals. If I have to pay the taxes (over which I have no control) I'd rather be subsidizing Americans from other states.
23 posted on 05/10/2008 9:31:05 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: T.L.Sink
There is no federal law banning states from admitting illegal immigrants to colleges and universities, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement said.

So what? The federal government has failed in most of the responsibilities that have been delegated to them by the Constitution of We the People. Like any other group of employees who can't or won't perform their delegated tasks, they need to be replaced with people who can and will. Rightfully, it is the People, and their State governments who determine the guidelines for our existence.



Article [IX.]

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Article [X.]

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.


24 posted on 05/10/2008 9:35:44 AM PDT by meadsjn (Socialists promote man's exploitation of man; Free Traitors promote just the opposite.)
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To: TruthConquers

A terrible incident, indeed. By the way, my favoite “substitute teacher” when Rush is away is Roger Hedgecock who broadcasts from San Diego and has some first-hand tales about the horror of the illegals in CA. I wish he was syndicated and we could get him here in FL. Do you listen to him?


25 posted on 05/10/2008 9:54:08 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: TruthConquers

The “border patrol men” are federal employees. Hard to find one without health insurance.


26 posted on 05/10/2008 9:58:48 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: T.L.Sink

I think Roger is on coast-to-coast on Saturdays. You could check his website www.rogerhedgecock.com.

You can definately email from that site and ask.


27 posted on 05/10/2008 9:59:06 AM PDT by SnarlinCubBear (Come tiptoe through the tulips with me)
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To: meadsjn

Absolutely. Did you see my post #15? In my opinion, those who swear a solemn oath to protect and defend the Constitution, yet who facilitate the illegal invasion, are liable to impeachment.


28 posted on 05/10/2008 10:01:46 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: SnarlinCubBear

Thanks very much - I’ll check it out.


29 posted on 05/10/2008 10:03:38 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: muawiyah

Yeah, I thought of that.

But what happens when the fed employee is in jail?

I would think that if she had insurance that she would have said so. But she didn’t have insurance. I doubt that she is lying. The John and Ken Show here is big, and has enemies. I don’t think she could get away with it if she really had insurance and was lying about what happened to her.


30 posted on 05/10/2008 10:18:19 AM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: T.L.Sink

Sometimes. If I listened to everyone that I wanted to, I would get nothing done. LOL!!

He is good to listen to when I get the chance.


31 posted on 05/10/2008 10:20:53 AM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: TruthConquers

Same with me. There are a lot of great talk show hosts out there - Rush, Hannity, Levin, etc. - but for some reason that guy resonates with me. Maybe his legal background gives him that incisive, clear and concise delivery(?)


32 posted on 05/10/2008 10:27:07 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink
In my opinion, those who swear a solemn oath to protect and defend the Constitution, yet who facilitate the illegal invasion, are liable to impeachment.

Agreed, but who will do that job? Everyone we elect to Congress or the White House quickly sets about selling the citizens out to foreign nations and peoples.

This would be a good year to elect a black, or a woman, or a veteran to the White House, but not one who is a communist, a socialist, or a back-stabbing anti-American RINO. Yet these are our current options, and I'm being gentle with my assessment.

As for the House and Senate, we are likely to lose Republican seats, and most of those who remain will be left of center. I don't see any avenue for gradually pushing the country back toward constitutional sanity. Barring a miracle, we're headed for some very dark times politically and economically.

33 posted on 05/10/2008 3:12:47 PM PDT by meadsjn (Socialists promote man's exploitation of man; Free Traitors promote just the opposite.)
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To: meadsjn; T.L.Sink
All that aside, given the use of central accounting systems at just about all the big universities it seems to me that an illegal alien would have difficulty paying $10,000+ to the university without the use of a social security number so that the transaction could be checked to see if it involved money laundering for dope dealers.

Registration ordinarily requires provision of a social security number.

Consequentally, the schools are going to know that the illegals are, in fact, illegals.

They can't plead ignorance.

34 posted on 05/10/2008 3:47:19 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: T.L.Sink

taking spots in colleges throwing Americans out. An American mind is ok to waste in favor of Illegal aliens.


35 posted on 05/10/2008 4:30:58 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: meadsjn

I totally agree. It’s going to be a “time of troubles” for Republicans/conservatives. Aside from all the other problems - a shaky economy, the unpopularity of the recent tax-and-spend Republican Congress, an unpopular war, etc. - the base is very UNENTHUSIASTIC about McCain. I hear about the “lesser of two evils” all the time. But the fact is when you choose the “lesser,” you’re still choosing evil; and that never motivates people to get out and vote or work for a candidate.


36 posted on 05/10/2008 4:56:15 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: muawiyah

Logically, you’re right. But from all I’ve heard it can take months, even years, to validate a phony SS number. That’s because ICE and Social Security don’t cooperate. And this assumes the thousands of schools even report the number. This is why the illegal lobby is opposed to Real ID - it eliminates the “wall” and facilitates the process of validation.


37 posted on 05/10/2008 5:16:35 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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