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Noam Chomsky on 1968 - It was the beginning of it all
newstatesmen.com ^
| May 10th, 2008
| Noam Chomsky
Posted on 05/10/2008 11:51:37 AM PDT by The_Republican
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To: The_Republican
"Nineteen sixty-eight was one exciting moment in a much larger movement. It spawned a whole range of movements. There wouldn't have been an international global solidarity movement, for instance, without the events of 1968." Chomsky's an idiot and a liar. Poland in the 1980's would have had Solidarity against the CCCP whether kids rioted in Chicago or not back in 1968.
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05/10/2008 12:57:47 PM PDT
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Southack
(Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
To: The_Republican
"The Pentagon Papers (the 7,000-page, top-secret US government report into the Vietnam War) are proof of this: right after the Tet Offensive, the business world turned against the war..." Chomsky's an idiot and a liar. The Pentagon Papers are not proof that the business world turned against the war.
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05/10/2008 12:59:08 PM PDT
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Southack
(Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
To: The_Republican
"But democracy is even stronger now than it was in 1968. You have to remember that, during Vietnam, there was no opposition at the beginning of the war. It did develop, but only six years after John F Kennedy attacked South Vietnam..." Chomsky's an idiot and a liar.
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05/10/2008 1:04:31 PM PDT
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Southack
(Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
To: The_Republican
"with the Iraq War, opposition was there from the very beginning, before an attack was even initiated. The Iraq War was the first conflict in western history in which an imperialist war was massively protested against before it had even been launched." Chomsky's an idiot and a liar:
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05/10/2008 1:16:49 PM PDT
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Southack
(Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
To: The_Republican
The Iraq War was the first conflict in western history in which an imperialist war was massively protested against before it had even been launched. Well, the protests, which I don't think were very massive, didn't succeed in changing anyone's mind.
I think Noam will be disappointed when he sees McCain do well running on a campaign of victory in Iraq versus the Chomsky-Democrat approach.
To: Southack
Chomsky's an idiot and a liar: Its called multi-tasking.
Regarding Lindberg, if I remember my history correctly, after Pearl Harbor Lindberg wanted to join the military but Roosevelt said no. Were there ANY anti-war protests after 12-7-41?
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05/10/2008 1:41:07 PM PDT
by
HerrBlucher
(Asked on his deathbed why he was reading the bible, WC Fields replied "I'm looking for loopholes.")
To: The_Republican
“Reactionary” - he mis-spelled righteous indignation.
The average “voter” doesn’t fathom the depths of hatred that radical leftists have for America, and make no mistake, by definition Americans. If they did, they would never vote for them under any circumstances. Perhaps some have some inkling, but prefer to upset the existing order as a sort of entertainment.
One doubts the 60s generation of “peace love and dope” and “never trust anyone over 30” and “kill the pigs” and etc etc, ad infinitum ad nauseam will appreciate any new revolutions and the like. Their retirement is gonna be quite a bit different than they had envisioned. Woopsie!
To: The_Republican
THE Dr. Strangelove DVD tells everyone the exact time in the 60’s that the commies started to poison the minds of U.S. citizens. The movie it’self is not the issue for the commies but the N.Y. Times is mentioned in the extra material about the movie and actors. The dialog was about a movie critic calling the movie the worst unwatchable piece of celluloid ever made. I can't remember what details they were talking. However, the dialog continued to explain that the same critic reverses’ his critical disdain 6mos. later to praise the movie as a brilliant piece. If you watch the movie critically, you will see that all the military people are portrayed as incompetent children, who will kill everyone in the world for there own gain. The critic obviously at first saw a completely absurd story line but was forced to rewrite his view. At about the same time there was a string of movies about military incompetence. Off the top of my head two were, The Bedford Incident and Failsafe.
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05/10/2008 4:35:20 PM PDT
by
machenation
("it can't happen here" Frank Zappa)
To: chris_bdba
Yeah thanks there Norm for ruining my childood. I was 7 years old in May of “68. You and your ILK made it ok for our fathers to walk out on their familes and made our teen years even more confusing than they needed to be.
Wow, is this ever a keeper!
” The phrase “do your own thing as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone”, did not disappear after the sixties. Instead it took up residence and prospered in the “new culture”.
And the harm and misery it caused-——cannot be measured!”
(James Christopher Hall)
To: Southack
There wouldn’t have been the movement in Poland without the Pope’s visit in 1979. Chomsky would prefer the masses were inspired by a Gramsci-esque atheist instead, so he lives in his dream world.
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