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CA: Bond measure to improve children's hospitals on ballot
San Jose Mercury News ^ | 10 May 2008 | Paul Rogers

Posted on 05/11/2008 4:01:16 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture

Bond measure to improve children's hospitals on ballot

A $980 million bond measure aimed at modernizing and expanding children's hospitals in California has qualified for the November ballot.

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: bond; calbondage; calinitiatives; children; hospitals
1271. (07-0034)

Children’s Hospital Bond Act. Grant Program. Statute.

Summary Date: 09/12/07 Circulation Deadline: 02/11/08 Signatures Required: 433,971

Proponent: Diana S. Dooley

Authorizes $980,000,000 in bonds, to be repaid from state’s General Fund, to fund the construction, expansion, remodeling, renovation, furnishing and equipping of children’s hospitals. Designates that 80 percent of bond proceeds go to hospitals that focus on children with illnesses such as leukemia, cancer, heart defects, diabetes, sickle cell anemia and cystic fibrosis. Requires that qualifying children’s hospitals provide comprehensive services to a high volume of children eligible for governmental programs and meet other requirements. Designates that 20 percent of bond proceeds go to University of California general acute care hospitals. Summary of estimate by Legislative Analyst and Director of Finance of fiscal impact on state and local government: State costs of about $2 billion over 30 years to pay off both the principal ($980 million) and the interest ($1 billion) costs of the bond. Payments of about $67 million per year. (Initiative 07-0034.) (Full Text)

1 posted on 05/11/2008 4:01:16 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Why don’t the Children’s hospitals invest their own funds?

Am I missing something? Why is the state getting involved to float more bonds for a private enterprise?

I note that there is a 20% diversion of the funds from the titled purpose, to help other acute hospitals. I wonder why that is necessary... Perhaps we should ask La Raza.

Count me out.


2 posted on 05/11/2008 4:08:20 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Who opposes John McCain's leftist agenda? The RNC, Rep Congress members, the Democrats? Good luck!)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Obviously no budget problems in California.


3 posted on 05/11/2008 4:22:13 PM PDT by golfisnr1 (Democrats are like roaches - hard to get rid of.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Apply tag line and eliminate the bonds


4 posted on 05/11/2008 4:22:36 PM PDT by spokeshave (Hey GOP...NO money till border closed and criminal illegals deported)
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To: DoughtyOne
I note that there is a 20% diversion of the funds from the titled purpose, to help other acute hospitals.

More specifically, those "other acute hospitals" are units of the University of California system. In other words, the state universities' balance sheets are getting a $196 million boost from the bond sales. Whether they actually use the funds for the intended purpose is a question to ask the auditors.

5 posted on 05/11/2008 4:34:00 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (During the Middle Ages, rats spread bubonic plague. Today, Rats spread the socialist plague.)
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To: DoughtyOne

What your not seeing here is the requirement that the nearly $1 billion in contruction, remodeling, etc..... be spent with union and minority contractors.


6 posted on 05/11/2008 4:39:31 PM PDT by umgud (Hillary still has broad support......... in her girdle)
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To: DoughtyOne

Here’s the list of eligible hospitals, per the LAO


http://www.lao.ca.gov/ballot/2007/070659.aspx

Figure 1

Children’s Hospitals Eligible for Bond Funds

Specifically Identified as Eligible

Mattel Children’s Hospital at University of California, Los Angeles

University Children’s Hospital at University of California, Irvine

University of California, Davis Children’s Hospital

University of California, San Diego Hospital Children’s Hospital

University of California, San Francisco Children’s Hospital

Additional Eligible Hospitals

Rady Children’s Hospital, San Diego (formerly Children’s Hospital and Health Center, San Diego)

Children’s Hospital Los Angeles

Children’s Hospital and Research Center at Oakland

Children’s Hospital of Orange County

Loma Linda University Children’s Hospital

Lucile Salter Packard Children’s Hospital at Stanford

Miller’s Children’s Hospital, Long Beach

Children’s Hospital Central California


7 posted on 05/11/2008 5:20:00 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: DoughtyOne
“Why don’t the Children’s hospitals invest their own funds?”

Why? Because these Calif hospitals are probably treating a huge number of illegal aliens for no charge. So, they expect that the state should shoulder the cost. And if it does, I would like to see the assurance that the federal gov’t cuts off any funding to California while it continues to run a sanctuary state.

8 posted on 05/11/2008 5:23:56 PM PDT by AlphaOneAlpha
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To: AlphaOneAlpha
It is the Federal government's responsibility to secure the boarder.

It is the Federal government's failure to secure the broader that cause these hospitals to loose money.

The Federal government should be responsible and pay for these cost caused by their failure to secure the boarder

These are not Federal bonds being voted on in California, they are state.

California is a donor state, that is it pays far more in federal taxes than it gets back from Washington.

Some of the Hospitals list are among the best in the world.

9 posted on 05/11/2008 6:47:49 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (the evening ThomasThomas wore his wolf suit and made mischief of one kind and another ....")
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Apparently, you missed the point or choose to ignore it. The state of California should be cooperating with the illegal alien situation rather than running a sanctuary operation. I do not disagree that the Feds own the responsibility for the borders, but California has to become less of a welcome mat enabler to illegals coming into the country and then hiding them in the shadows.
Face it. These are facts that cannot be justified. It will be the ruination of the state....it’s already started.


10 posted on 05/11/2008 7:43:41 PM PDT by AlphaOneAlpha
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To: rabscuttle385

Thanks for the point. I appreciate it.


11 posted on 05/11/2008 8:31:17 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Who opposes John McCain's leftist agenda? The RNC, Rep Congress members, the Democrats? Good luck!)
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To: umgud

I did miss that. So it’s the 2008 Union Labor relief act. Sounds about right.


12 posted on 05/11/2008 8:34:39 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Who opposes John McCain's leftist agenda? The RNC, Rep Congress members, the Democrats? Good luck!)
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To: calcowgirl

Thank you.


13 posted on 05/11/2008 8:36:55 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Who opposes John McCain's leftist agenda? The RNC, Rep Congress members, the Democrats? Good luck!)
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To: AlphaOneAlpha

I wouldn’t doubt it, although I don’t have much knowledge about these children’s hospitals. Still, I’d have to believe you’re right.


14 posted on 05/11/2008 8:43:49 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Who opposes John McCain's leftist agenda? The RNC, Rep Congress members, the Democrats? Good luck!)
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To: AlphaOneAlpha
I am not sure who they would cooperate with, the feds? We have are more than fair share of open boarder nuts here but when given a chance to vote we passed prop 187.

One of the things I like least about the Federal government is that they take your money and then say I will only give it back if you follow my rules. It is just wrong to extort us with our own tax money. The same thought behind not returning tax money to a state for this issue is the same as if you don't teach gay pride in school you can't have your money back.

15 posted on 05/12/2008 6:40:30 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (the evening ThomasThomas wore his wolf suit and made mischief of one kind and another ....")
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