Posted on 05/11/2008 6:03:42 PM PDT by DeweyCA
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But what if that curriculum is really a disguise for a very different agenda brought to Minneapolis by the Human Rights Campaign, a Washington, D.C.-based gay and transgender advocacy group? What if its lessons have little to do with bullying, and much to do with ensuring that kids as young as age 5 submit to HRC's orthodoxy on family structure, even if it differs from their own parents' view?
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In March, Minneapolis Superintendent Bill Green praised "Welcoming Schools" as "a tool to combat bullying, by focusing on diversity, gender stereotyping and name-calling." But the curriculum's underlying social/political agenda leaps from every page.
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"The packets of photographs selected make it impossible to create seven 'traditional' families: that is, families that include a mother, a father and children," says the curriculum guide. "Students will find that they must create some families with adults of the same gender. ..." and then decide how to label the members.
The guide advises teachers to use their authority to encourage the right answer: "[I]t is helpful for students if you use your own set of photos to create a family with two moms and/or two dads."
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"It's a direct slap at parents' face," said Hale parent Arbuc Flomo of the newly formed Coalition for Parents' Rights. " 'I used to think, but now I know ...'? It's like a teacher saying to your first-grader, 'what you learned in your seven years before coming to first grade here -- what you learned from your parents -- is wrong.' "
(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...
Looks like the Minnesota public schools are going down the same path as those in other states. Parents better get their children out while they can.
Schools don’t need to resort to this to stop bullying, which by itself is a laudable goal. But I think the author is right, stoppping bullying is not the real goal of the cirriculum’s advocates.
I have noticed that the term “welcoming” is increasingly being used to further the agenda of illegal immigrants and not, potentially, homosexuals too. Words are being hijacked and associated with causes. “Welcoming” and “tolerant” are liberal (good); “judgemental” is conservative (bad).
They did this exact same thing here in Charlotte just a month ago under the same guise. This story sounds identical. They must be pushing this all over the country in the major cities where there are Democrat majorities that they know will approve it.
A friend of mine son has been suspended for two days (fifth grade) for calling a kid an “artard”. I guess it means retard.
It is all so very weird.
Did you ever notice how judgemental liberals are when condemning “judgementalism?”
I’d love to see them try this around Dearborn, ha!!!
On the other hand, a kid can beat another kid up, punch them in the head during class, or toss them into a locker. That stuff isn't a big deal. Schools don't know how to handle it, so they pretty much do nothing. After all, there are more important topics that need to be focused on (like bullying, which, as I say, they have no tolerance for. I just wish they would define bullying the way they used to).
I would have my child draw in a man or woman, as required, to complete the proper family structure--and of course anger the fags as well.
>> “It’s like a teacher saying to your first-grader ... what you learned from your parents — is wrong.”
I expect the divide between the schools and family will continue grow. This agenda and others like it are often masked from the view of parents, but every so often somebody turns the crank too fast and the parents get a whiff of what’s going on.
Yes, it’s been noted that the most PC, multi-culti schools are also the most Lord-of-the-Flies violent in actuality.
Yes, I was watching that in the “Rhino Times.” It’s hitting here in Union County, too.
In my opinion, the schools don’t need “tolerance”; they need discipline. I don’t care what you thing about Student X. Hate his guts, if that’s fun for you. But you will sit in the classroom and behave yourself, or you will be expelled. (I will never be elected to school board.)
You're right. The teaching of self discipline has been replaced by myriad external 'rules'.
Yep. If you don’t want your kids dealing with this indoctrination gambit, the only way is to take them out of public school.
Parents who love their children don’t send them to government schools like these in Minneapolis.
Gay.
I have yet to understand how or why people believe multicultural training is somehow going to make some sort of difference.
They would kill us if they could. They just can't get away with it...yet!
I am just wondering? Is Principal Bob a homosexual?
I strongly suspect that homosexuals are going into government education in massive numbers. Homos hire other homos.
"It's a direct slap at parents' face," said Hale parent Arbuc Flomo of the newly formed Coalition for Parents' Rights. " 'I used to think, but now I know ...'? It's like a teacher saying to your first-grader, 'what you learned in your seven years before coming to first grade here -- what you learned from your parents -- is wrong.' "
Arbuc Flomo is surprised? He is shocked that the government schools are attempting to turn children against their parents? What an idiot! Of course they are! The government schools have been doing this for many years now.
But...I strongly suspect that Arbuc Flomo will have his kid in that same school today. ( STUPID parent!)
Dan Loewenson of the Minneapolis School District says that parents are free to opt their children out of the program.
But...Parents are not able to opt out of the school! Their children are forced into association with the other children and teachers who have been thoroughly indoctrinated in this anti-Christian values toxic waste.
The tax payers are not permitted from opting out of paying for it either!
After Hale parents filed formal objections to "Welcoming Schools" in March, district leaders referred the matter to the district's Curriculum and Instruction Committee. On May 28, the committee will deliberate about next steps after hearing from parents and staff.
These stupid parents should give it up! They should instead direct their political energies into shutting down every government school in their district.
Do these stupid parents honestly believe they can reform every Liberal/Marxist teacher exiting our nation's colleges of education? These are the teachers who are teaching all the courses in these government indoctrination camps. It isn't just this one pro-homosexual acceptance course.
Two more points:
1) There are schools that are so morally and socially toxic that it would be better for a child to get **NO** education whatsoever than to ever step foot in one! Illiterate and innumerate would be better than subjecting them to the toxic waste found in them.
I **seriously** mean this!
2) There are likely plenty of so-called, church going, God-believing, but STUPID Christian government teachers who will thoroughly and completely go along with, aid, abet, and completely implement this gay indoctrination program. They will completely support this anti-Chrisitian values indoctrination program while simultaneously thinking they are being good Christian examples of Christian behavior. ( Yeah right!) ( With eyeroll)
Instead of protesting, and risking the loss of their jobs, these Christian teachers will instead teach all the children that Christians teachers are hypocrites, will sell they principles for a paycheck, and are timid and weak.
Christian parents who send their children to these schools are teaching many of the same lessons. They are teaching their children that Christian parents are too weak to yank them out of these cesspools.
When these Christian children reach adulthood too many will have abandoned their faith. Those who who are not Christian will be unlikely to listen to true missionaries. We can thank their weak, timid, and compliant teachers and parents for that!
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The research from Barna shows that only 9% of evangelical adults have even a minimal Christian worldview. It's not surprising that Christian teachers don't teach too much differently than non-Christian teachers. Our kids often are being brainwashed, and the parents don't even know it. So sad.
1) Protest and likely lose their job.
2) Quit!
Any other action is teaching the children that Christians are hypocrites who will sell their religious principles for a paycheck. They are also setting an example of Christians as being timid and weak people. Who in their right mind would embrace a religion with members like that?
Parents have only one option: Remove their child immediately and then work to shut these cesspools down!
On some level all children know that their parents are abandoning them to sink or swim in these government school cesspools. Is there any wonder there is a generation gap? Why would any child trust a parent that knowingly, or even unknowingly, subject them to this?
I will inform my kids that if they have this type of assignment, they are NOT to form a family with 2 male parents or 2 female parents.
If they are led to do so, they will inform the teacher and the class that it is in violation of their religious beliefs and they refuse to accept that as a possible solution to the problem.
I'm ashamed that I'm surprised by this crap. I should have known better. I'm sure that bullying is a serious problem in gov't schools. It was when I was in school way back when. The reason why it has never been addressed is that it's never in anyone's interest to report it, including the victim's. "Ratting" will only make the bullying worse. Figures the homo lobby would work this to their advantage.
“In my opinion, the schools don’t need “tolerance”; they need discipline. I don’t care what you thing about Student X. Hate his guts, if that’s fun for you. But you will sit in the classroom and behave yourself, or you will be expelled. (I will never be elected to school board.)”
RIGHT!
Right, that I’ll never be elected to the school board :-)?
I think that things went much better when schools, public or private, emphasized appropriate behavior rather than warm, fuzzy feelings and politically-correct attitudes. Everyone, students and employees, should be required to act like ladies and gentlemen. If that’s enforced, then it doesn’t matter what anyone approves or disapproves personally.
From a related thread...
Romans 1:25-27 tells us that same-sex sexual relationships are a consequence of idolatry. In other words, such relationships are a consequence of disobeying the 1ST COMMANDMENT, a major aspect of the GREATEST COMMANDMENT, to love the jealous God with all your being.
Homosexuals need to keep in mind, however, that the good news of the gospel is not about how God despises same-sex sexual relationships. In fact, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 indicates that certain members of that church had been slaves to such relationships but had been cleansed in Jesus' name. So these former homosexuals had evidently repented and accepted God's grace to straighten their lives out.
John 3:16Regarding the Christian taxpayers and other taxpayers who don't want homosexual indoctrination in their schools, Jefferson put it this way.
Revelation 3:20
"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." --Thomas Jefferson: Bill for Religious Freedom, 1779. Papers 2:545 http://www.religioustolerance.org/virg_bil.htmAlso, consider that the public schools in question, along with the Human Rights Campaign, is foolishly following in the footsteps of the Pharisees of Jesus' time. More specifically, Mark 7:1-23, particularly verses 9-13, indicates that Jesus reprimanded the Pharisees for driving a wedge between parents and their children, nullifying the 5th Commandment to honor your father and mother.
“Right, that I’ll never be elected to the school board :-)?
I think that things went much better when schools, public or private, emphasized appropriate behavior rather than warm, fuzzy feelings and politically-correct attitudes. Everyone, students and employees, should be required to act like ladies and gentlemen. If that’s enforced, then it doesn’t matter what anyone approves or disapproves personally.”
Well...I doubt you’d be elected...but any school board would be LUCKY to have you!
:-)
I’m sure they don’t want me either...
LOL!!!
But, what I really meant was that I completely agree with your statement on discipline and warm fuzzies!!!
We find the same thing in coaching...
My hubby taught the soccer coach to say “EYEBALLS!” to the kids and then the kids look at the coach and say, “CLICK!”...
Too funny...
(I guess 18 years in boot camp also need to learn how to listen :-)
Good one! If it wasn't the end of the year, I'd try that with my Sunday School class.
FUNNY!
And you KNOW that at some point there would be a child with a U.S Marine for a Dad (or Mom).
That would be a funny conversation!
:-)
Another reason to homeschool?
You got it.
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This is why all K-12 education in the U.S. must be privatized. Why?
For a school to have discipline and order, that school **must** restrict free speech, free press, free expression of religion, and free association. Also, all education has a religious worldview. It is impossible to have religiously neutral curriculum and policies.
Therefore....When government attempts to run orderly, safe, and well disciplined schools they step in a great big pile of First Amendment dog pooh.
Government schools, freedom of conscience, and the First Amendment can **not** coexist!
"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." --Thomas Jefferson: Bill for Religious Freedom, 1779. Papers 2:545 http://www.religioustolerance.org/virg_bil.htm
Government schools, freedom of conscience, and the First Amendment can not coexist.
( Please read post #35.)
I had to go back and figure out what this post was about since it was quite some time ago.
And yep, I remember you making that comment before.
I will just have to respectfully disagree again.
Have a great weekend.
Post #35 is the first of your posts to me, therefore this is the only time that you have disagreed with anything I have posted on this thread.
I do agree with you schools need discipline and order. The best way to do that ( without the government stepping in First Amendment dog pooh) is to have a completely private system of K-12 education..
I’m having a great weekend so far, and hope you are the same. We went to the used book store :-).
Oh my.
I’m so sorry about that.
I didn’t mean to be confusing.
I was referring to disagreeing with you on many prior occasions.
I (hopefully and respectfully) disagree with you on this occasion as well.
Take care and again, I hope you have a nice weekend.
OH!
I love the used book store!!
I hope you found all sorts of treasures!
We have a ton of books we need to take in.
Hopefully soon!
The kids bring their job money and they think they’ve won the lottery!
It’s a RARE “hot day in May” here in Seattle.
It’s 9:45 and already 70 degrees!
This is UNHEARD of!
We’re going to do some fun “stuff” outside...
I tried to exchange Pat for a Henry James short story collection and a stack of Shakespeare histories, but the owner insisted on cash :-).
Enjoy your warm weather. It’s only in the 60’s here, at 12:30. This calls for a nap.
Did you tell him Pat IS a book?
Perhaps he would reconsider?
Although whomever bought him might find it inconvenient when the first aliens came for a visit...
Hope you had a happy nap...it is now 84 degrees here at 2:00pm...
Seattlites are NOT equipped for anything hotter than this...
We’ll see if we melt..
I respectfully disagree that government and our freedoms cannot coexist.
The problem is that state lawmakers have never gotten their acts together by making tax laws that compliment our 1st A. freedoms. For example, it is not right to expect taxes collected from Muslim taxpayers, for example, to help pay for Holy Bibles for public schools.
The truth of the matter is that the states have never implemented Jefferson's good advice for integrating laws with the beliefs of a given community. Consider the following.
"My proposition [to divide every county into wards and to establish in each a free school] had for a further object, to impart to these wards those portions of self-government for which they are best qualified, by confiding to them the care of their poor, their roads, police, elections, the nomination of jurors, administration of justice in small cases, elementary exercises of militia; in short, to have made them little republics, with a warden at the head of each, for all those concerns which, being under their eye, they would better manage than the larger republics of the county or State. A general call of ward meetings by their wardens on the same day through the State, would at any time produce the genuine sense of the people on any required point, and would enable the State to act in mass." --Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, 1813. ME 13:400
I did **not** say that government and freedom could not coexist. I said that government **schools**, freedom of conscience, and the First Amendment can not coexist. Big difference!
Government schools have a choice:
1) They can allow First Amendment freedoms and freedom of conscience. The result of course is chaotic, unsafe, and absolutely ineffectual schools in which education is impossible.
or...
2) They can violate First Amendment Rights, and have safe and orderly schools.
In both cases a religiously neutral education is impossible. In the case of this particular article. The government school can not simultaneously support and not support the gay agenda. The government school must choose. In either case the government will be establishing, upholding, and supporting the religious worldview of some while, trashing that of the other.
There is a solution: Privatize all K-12 education.
I respectfully disagree anyway.
When public schools cave into politically correct interpretations of our basic freedoms, then you've got problems. But if public schools respect the Constitution, its history and people's 14th a protections, then I don't have a problem with "government" schools.
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