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Poll: Most Jewish voters want Obama to win
jpost.com ^ | JUne 9 , 2008 | By HILARY LEILA KRIEGER, WASHINGTON

Posted on 05/12/2008 12:48:32 AM PDT by NoLibZone

WASHINGTON - A new Gallup survey found that 61% of Jewish voters prefer Obama to McCain, who got 32% of the Jewish support.

That number is far greater than the rate found for the general population, who only preferred Obama to McCain 45-43, according to the poll. Obama also still trails Clinton in Jewish support, according to the survey, with Clinton winning against Obama in the Jewish community 50%-43%.

Though the results showed Obama is favored by the Jewish community, the Republican Jewish Coalition pounced on them to attack Obama.

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1 posted on 05/12/2008 12:48:33 AM PDT by NoLibZone
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To: NoLibZone
McCain, who got 32% of the Jewish support

That's actually quite good for a Republican. Reagan lead with ca. 40% if I remeber correctly. Jews voting for Obama apparently suffer from the brain-damaging disease of liberal self-loathing.

2 posted on 05/12/2008 12:52:53 AM PDT by SolidWood
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To: NoLibZone

As a halfie whose father fought in the Haganah, I have to ask:

Why are so very many American Jews so very stupid?


3 posted on 05/12/2008 12:55:49 AM PDT by NoLibZone (The Huge Demonstrations by Illegals in 2006 prove they have more of the Spirit of 76 then we do)
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To: SolidWood

“Jews voting for Obama apparently suffer from the brain-damaging disease of liberal self-loathing.”

I, too, saw these stats today and find them totally confounding. Can they not YET connect the dots with b. hussein obama/farrakhan, BHO’s resounding endorsements by Ahmedinejad, Hamas and more???


4 posted on 05/12/2008 12:58:24 AM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: llandres
I, too, saw these stats today and find them totally confounding. Can they not YET connect the dots with b. hussein obama/farrakhan, BHO’s resounding endorsements by Ahmedinejad, Hamas and more???

Liberalism is a mental disorder. Do not be surprised when those who suffer from it believe many crazy things.
5 posted on 05/12/2008 1:08:29 AM PDT by Cheburashka (Liberalism: a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.)
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To: NoLibZone
I am good friends with an orthodox rabbi who gets so enraged over this issue it's all he can do not to scream.

He said that the simple reason why Jews vote for democrats is so they can tell their friends at the museum that they are cultured and progressive because they vote for democrats.

He said they are so blind they won't realize what they've done to themselves until the knife is halfway through their necks.

To be honest, I can't think of any better explanation for why Jews will vote against their own interests like they do. It's simply bizarre.

6 posted on 05/12/2008 1:23:13 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: NoLibZone

Do the morons have “Kick Me” signs on their backs?


7 posted on 05/12/2008 1:26:44 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: NoLibZone

stupid jews voting for a muslim


8 posted on 05/12/2008 1:27:00 AM PDT by patch789
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To: NoLibZone

Chickens voting for Colonel Sanders.


9 posted on 05/12/2008 1:31:00 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
To be honest, I can't think of any better explanation for why Jews will vote against their own interests like they do. It's simply bizarre.

Well put, but Jews aren't the only psychiatric case studies. How about blacks? They overwhelmingly vote Democrat despite the fact that the Democrats' welfare state all but eradicated the urban black family unit and bred at least two generations of a helpless "victim" class that is hopelessly addicted to government handouts.

Come to think of it, probably the biggest morons of them all are the (admittedly few) taxpaying, traditional American families who vote Democrat. That's another puzzle that cannot be explained by mere stupidity.

10 posted on 05/12/2008 1:35:14 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: NoLibZone
Why are so very many American Jews so very stupid?

Probably because they've never been forced to wear yellow stars.

11 posted on 05/12/2008 1:35:31 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Who's worried about the Bolsheviks? They couldn't be worse than the Tsar!)
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To: SolidWood

Agreed if McCain can pounce on Obama harder and harder on the issue of Israel and Obama’s Anti-Israeli picks whom he had to fire to still keep the Jewish votes, it might go up. 32% is actually bigger than the Jewish vote for President Bush. However the last time that Jews voted overwhelmingly for a Republican was Dwight David Eisenhower which I read somewhere on here.

I am, however, alone from that forefront. I think that a part of this drive to vote for Democrats is because Jews usually live in very Liberal areas, they are mostly Liberal religiously, think that the Democrats are the Party of FDR and Truman on foreign policy, and were victims(like many groups were) all the way back then. I am Jewish but I am not a Democrat. I also personally believe that the first ethnic minority to leave the Democrats should be the Jewish people. But then it seems like everybody is cozy in lockstep.

Possibly also a biggest reason why my Jewish Aunt and Uncle will not vote for a Republican is because of a fear that they will be converted to Christianity by people like President Bush. There is nothing more powerful than irrational fear.


12 posted on 05/12/2008 1:36:07 AM PDT by Merta (They Call Me The Ranting Man)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

On Fri, My brother and SIL took their dog back to the vet to get a follow up and reg vet was not in but her associate was seeing her patients. My SIL (doesnt’ know much about politics) came up to see me after the visit to tell me about it. 3 Minutes after walking into the office, introducing himself, he comes out with Well, Who you voting for? My SIL says McCain and this doc goes off on here with all the liberal talking points, My brother was trying to tell my SIL to shut up but she was pis**d.
I told here she wasnt mad enough because I would have picked up my dog and walked out asking him if he was a vet or political adviser. My brother told her on the way home, he was the typical Upper Middle Class Lib that likes to be able to say “look at me, I can vote for him” (dr was Jewish)
I was livid. Never mix politics with business. Espec when you don’t know who you are talking to. My brother seemed to think that they were Libs because My SIL is very Dark Hispanic and my brother white, So he felt freer to comment.


13 posted on 05/12/2008 1:49:52 AM PDT by MarineMom613 (My son is My Hero!!!)
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To: NoLibZone
Somebody need to write a book called, “What is the matter with American Jews?”
14 posted on 05/12/2008 1:53:24 AM PDT by paudio (Michelle Obama: a Typical Black Woman)
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To: Merta
By way of full disclosure, I am an unalloyed goy so I might be wading into waters which are much deeper than I know as I make the following generalizations:

There is a scriptural commandment in the Torah and in those writings which exegete it, to go forth not to proselytize but to do good. As conservatives, we recognize there is a human tendency to want to do more good by grabbing the levers of government to organize the whole of society to do even more good.

If one is secular, and I think these statistics embrace secular Jews to a far greater degree than observant Jews, the temptation is almost irresistible to play God. If one is to play God, by definition, one seeks to play in the biggest playground of all and that is offered up along with control of the levers of government. Hence, Jewish secularists, like Christian secularists, as a group tend to be statists.

Jewish tradition going back to Russia is a tradition of socialism. For example, that tradition was carried over into the kibbutzim in Israel.

Jewish culture puts a premium on education and traditionally makes the fool the butt of jokes. This is been especially harmful to George Bush. In the modern American secular Jewish culture to announce oneself to be a Republican is the practical equivalent of taking a pratfall in front of all your neighbors and friends at the country club. Can you imagine a Jewish intellectual at a prestigious American University confessing to one and all that he supports George Bush?as a kid I can recall being told how stupid Dwight Eisenhower was and every subsequent Republican president in my lifetime has been called either stupid or clumsy or both -except Nixon.

Liberalism is a substitute religion and therefore secular Jews, like secular goyim, gravitate to that political persuasion. Liberalism as a religion trumps religious affiliation of non- observant Jews and trumps cultural affinity to Jews who might otherwise be sympathetic to Israel.

Because of Europe's unfortunate history of programs, Jews traditionally are wary of aggressive Christianity and many secular Jews have not yet come to the understanding that American fundamentalist Christians are great friends of Israel and hence of Jews in general. There are other issues which Jewish history make Jews as a group favor one side as a matter of self-preservation. These include, for example, immigration. And they also include the end to segregation and civil rights for all races and creeds.

Barak Obama, of course, is the beau ideal of the black man, well-educated and articulate, who is on the right side of all of these issues and who embodies in his own person the inclusiveness which, if universally practiced, protects Jews as a class.


15 posted on 05/12/2008 1:54:10 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: NoLibZone

That is something I will never be able to understand. They helped to elect Keith Ellison, for crying out loud. Do they hate themselves that much? Apparently the answer is “YES”.


16 posted on 05/12/2008 1:55:09 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Bill Clinton: Life Member of the Liars' Club.)
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To: MarineMom613

Yeah. One of my doctors I strongly suspect is a leftist, but if the subject gets onto politics, I avoid it like the plague. I’ll say I’m interested in the subject, but that’s as far as it goes.

Then again, as a parting shot to the vet, I’d have added, “So you have no problem, as a Jew, voting for a candidate that would happily dance on Israel’s corpse ?” It’s sad, so many American Jews embrace Socialism as their religion and the Torah and Israel is of little to no concern. JINOs.


17 posted on 05/12/2008 2:13:25 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: NoLibZone

Poll: Most Jewish voters want Obama to win...

and most muzzie terrorists all over the world that hate & want to kill all Jews and destroy Israel want b. HUSSEIN to win as also!!!!


18 posted on 05/12/2008 2:39:55 AM PDT by nyyankeefan
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To: NoLibZone

It makes no sense as to why the Jews back this guy.
I knew American Jews would support this magic negro even though he is anti Israel.
Stupid Jews.


19 posted on 05/12/2008 2:49:02 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
I am good friends with an orthodox rabbi who gets so enraged over this issue it's all he can do not to scream.

He said that the simple reason why Jews vote for democrats is so they can tell their friends at the museum that they are cultured and progressive because they vote for democrats.

He said they are so blind they won't realize what they've done to themselves until the knife is halfway through their necks.

To be honest, I can't think of any better explanation for why Jews will vote against their own interests like they do. It's simply bizarre.

Agreed. Far too many Jews have been uncomfortable with a strong Israel for decades, and seem to draw both their meaning in life, AND their sense of self, through victimhood. It seems that they're only sure of who they are while they see themselves as helpless. It's almost like a little kid shouting "you'll miss me when I'm gone!"

Mark

20 posted on 05/12/2008 3:18:49 AM PDT by MarkL
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To: NoLibZone
My sister-in-law and her husband plan to vote for McCain.

They are:
Marxist/Maoist
He is Jewish, she converted to Judaism
Live is Cambridge, MA
He is a Harvard doct-ta
She is a an unemployed social worker (MSW)
They play NPR and Pacifica Network radio constantly
ALL of their friends are Jewish (no diversity)
They talk about community service but never do any.

The reason for McCain?
Israel.

21 posted on 05/12/2008 3:54:00 AM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: NoLibZone

61% of Jewish voters want Israel destroyed.


22 posted on 05/12/2008 4:05:49 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: NoLibZone

I can’t buy this one.


23 posted on 05/12/2008 4:06:09 AM PDT by gulfcoast6
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To: NoLibZone

Jews for Hitler


24 posted on 05/12/2008 4:07:51 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Merta; CaptainAmiigaf

“I am Jewish but I am not a Democrat”

I just wanted to let you know that you are not alone. My Jewish family and I have never been Democrats. We discuss politics and world affairs all the time. One of our endless discussions is how to slap up the American Jewish collective upside the head and get them to actually see what they are supporting. Oy, it gives me a headache. For so-called intellectuals many American Jews sure are stupid and short sided. While Israel celebrates her 60th birthday, they support a candidate who is supported by people who are planning her funeral.


25 posted on 05/12/2008 4:10:49 AM PDT by Mrs. B.S. Roberts
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To: NoLibZone

honestly, I ask myself the same thing; the ONLY thing I can think is that these jews are secular. Because, if they had any allegiance or love for Israel they would NEVER vote dem. It baffles me to see this happen year after year. They’re like the blacks...once they get stuck in the party, they can’t get out.


26 posted on 05/12/2008 4:20:29 AM PDT by spacejunkie01
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To: NoLibZone
Its likely that a majority of Jews are liberal and a good many Leftists (though probably not a majority) are antisemitic. Whether this is conscious or subconscious bias, I do not know, but it exists and it mostly manifests itself as antipathy toward Israel. Sadly, in response to this, many liberal Jews have chosen to distance themselves from Israel rather than defend it. This is to stay in good with the liberal cause, because (ultimately) liberalism is their real religion. I'm sure this perceived self-hatred on their part only reinforces the attitude of their antisemitic “friends”. These Jews may be well educated and cultured, but they are textbook examples of useful idiots.
27 posted on 05/12/2008 4:21:06 AM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: NoLibZone

More liberal than Jewish is the reason.


28 posted on 05/12/2008 4:43:38 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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29 posted on 05/12/2008 4:51:24 AM PDT by SJackson (It is impossible to build a peace process based on blood, Natan Sharansky)
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To: NoLibZone

Meshugge


30 posted on 05/12/2008 5:00:35 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: windsorknot

He’s a surrogate, raised up in the Jewish leftist ideology at the most leftist indoctrination centers in America.


31 posted on 05/12/2008 5:06:50 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The Bitcons will elect a Democrat by default)
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To: NoLibZone

It makes one wonder. The Pubbies have been more beneficial to Israel through the years and yet they vote for the RATS.


32 posted on 05/12/2008 5:15:26 AM PDT by kenmcg
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To: coon2000

Jewish Liberals. All other libs for that matter, too.


34 posted on 05/12/2008 5:21:18 AM PDT by SolidWood
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To: kenmcg
I'm Jewish and I don't really give a rat's @ss about Israel, beyond whatever strategic significance they hold for the USA. I am 100% American and concern myself with my country, not Israel. They are an ally, and as such deserve good treatment, but that's the extent of it, as far as I'm concerned. I'd probably rank them behind both England and Australia and maybe even Japan when it comes to who our most valuable friends are.
35 posted on 05/12/2008 5:27:26 AM PDT by Huck ("Real" conservatives support OBAMA in 08 (that's how you know Im not a real conservative))
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To: NoLibZone
They also don't believe OJ is guilty, or care what happens to their homeland.
37 posted on 05/12/2008 5:31:20 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: Mrs. B.S. Roberts

For 30 years, politically-correct Jews have told me that they are ashamed to be Jewish “because of Israel.” This is directly in reference to military success.

As a Jew, it comforts me to know Israel exists and is militarily strong. I am the only conservative in my birth family and therefore, looked upon as an idiot. My closest friends are all strong Christians, which doesn’t help my *image*, either.


38 posted on 05/12/2008 5:46:12 AM PDT by reformedliberal (Capitalism is what happens when governments get out of the way.)
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To: elpadre
they won't recognize their savior today - the Republicans

Politics and salvation have nothing to do with each other.

39 posted on 05/12/2008 5:51:58 AM PDT by Jim Noble (ride 'em like you stole 'em)
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To: SolidWood
That's actually quite good for a Republican. Reagan lead with ca. 40%

IT was a bit more, but you are correct. IF McCain can boost his 32% to 40%, it will be a long night for Obama.

40 posted on 05/12/2008 5:54:54 AM PDT by montag813
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To: NoLibZone
Burt Prelutsky has a good Town Hall article today about this phenomenon. He says it has to do with identifying with the underdog.
41 posted on 05/12/2008 5:56:50 AM PDT by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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To: NoLibZone

Absolutely astounding! Israel will be destroyed under an Obama adminstration. I guess I care more about Israel than they do. McCain will maintain the status quo, Obama will allow the arabs and persians to destroy Israel.


42 posted on 05/12/2008 5:58:40 AM PDT by Mere
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To: NoLibZone
"As a halfie whose father fought in the Haganah, I have to ask:

Why are so very many American Jews so very stupid?"

Coming from a thoroughly mixed (-up?) family myself, my observation is that there are very large numbers of American Jews who know so little about about Israel that it is hard to have an intelligent conversation with them about the subject.

43 posted on 05/12/2008 6:01:52 AM PDT by cookcounty (Obama reach across the aisle? He's so far to the left, he'll need a roadmap to FIND the aisle.)
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To: reformedliberal

You can’t choose your family, but you can choose your friends.


44 posted on 05/12/2008 6:31:20 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (When hopelessness replaces hope, it opens the door to evil.)
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To: NoLibZone
This should not be a surprise. The major initial funding came from the two wealthiest Jewish families in Chicago, and subsequent major contributors are some of the wealthiest Jewish families in America.
45 posted on 05/12/2008 6:42:06 AM PDT by balticbeau
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To: fieldmarshaldj

LOL!


46 posted on 05/12/2008 6:47:42 AM PDT by caddie
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To: Jim Noble

and without the US??????


47 posted on 05/12/2008 6:47:50 AM PDT by elpadre
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To: NoLibZone

#1. That’s a higher percentage for a Republican than any candidate has received in years.
#2. Notice that the majority favor Hillary.
#3. Have you ever seen so many articles declaring that Jews will vote for Obama? The MSM is hoarse from shouting this.


48 posted on 05/12/2008 6:51:56 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (McCain calls it "radical islamic terrorism," the dems don't refer to it at all)
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To: MarkL

“He said that the simple reason why Jews vote for democrats is so they can tell their friends at the museum that they are cultured and progressive because they vote for democrats.”

That’s my theory, based on years of observation. If you’re Jewish, it’s expected by your peers that you will be “progressive”. Like the African-American community, where if you vote for a Republican, you are no longer “black”.


49 posted on 05/12/2008 7:22:20 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Concerned about the price of arugula)
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To: popdonnelly

After reading the first 49 replies, I have one other observation to make. It appears that Jews, like many other liberal groups, like to be part of the majority of the in-crowd, and so they will say they are Democrats or liberals to remain in good company.

In this election, however, I sense an undercurrent among the Jewish voting population, which may yet proove that these new polls on Obama vs. McCain are skewed. If McCain is already doing better against Obama than previous GOP Presidential nominees have done, that may be a prediction of more defections to come. It is surprising to me that so many voters really do not yet have any comprehension about Obama’s background and his political philosophy, much less about his stanves on Israel, Hamas, Iran, etc..


50 posted on 05/12/2008 7:41:01 AM PDT by Gumdrop
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