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Man Says JetBlue Pilot Forced Him To Sit On Toilet
WCBSTV ^ | May 12, 2008 | not specified

Posted on 05/12/2008 4:00:10 PM PDT by RDTF

A New York City man is suing JetBlue Airways Corp. for more than $2 million because he says a pilot made him give up his seat to a flight attendant and sit on the toilet for more than three hours on a flight from California.

Gokhan Mutlu, of Manhattan's Inwood section, says in court papers the pilot told him to "go 'hang out' in the bathroom" about 90 minutes into the San Diego to New York flight because the flight attendant complained that the "jump seat" she was assigned was uncomfortable, the lawsuit said.

Mutlu was traveling on a a "buddy pass," a standby travel voucher that JetBlue employees give to friends, from New York to San Diego on Feb. 16, and returned to New York on Feb. 23, the lawsuit said.

Initially, Mutlu was told a flight attendant had taken the last seat on the plane, but then he was advised she would sit in the employee "jump seat," meaning he could have the last seat, the lawsuit said.

The pilot told him 1 1/2 hours into the five-hour flight that he would have to relinquish the seat to the flight attendant, court papers say. But the pilot said that Mutlu could not sit in the jump seat because only JetBlue employees were permitted to sit there, the lawsuit said.

When Mutlu expressed reluctance to go sit in the bathroom, the pilot, who was not named in the lawsuit, told him that "he was the pilot, that this was his plane, under his command that (Mutlu) should be grateful for being on board," the lawsuit said.

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1 posted on 05/12/2008 4:00:10 PM PDT by RDTF
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I smell a BS muzzie lawsuit.


2 posted on 05/12/2008 4:02:21 PM PDT by imahawk (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: RDTF

Oh C’mon this can’t be for real......, Really???


3 posted on 05/12/2008 4:03:33 PM PDT by cmsgop (I can't believe my wife downloaded "Philadelphia Freedom"on my iPod........)
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To: RDTF

He didn’t pay for his seat. He’s entitled to zero.


4 posted on 05/12/2008 4:05:28 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Don’t trust anyone who can’t take a joke. [Congressman BillyBob])
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To: imahawk
I smell a BS muzzie lawsuit.

If the facts are as stated in the story, (Yea, big if) but if they are...

There would also be a BS while christian male baby-boomer lawsuit.

5 posted on 05/12/2008 4:07:05 PM PDT by kAcknor ("A pistol! Are you expecting trouble sir?" "No ma'am, were I expecting trouble I'd have a rifle.")
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To: RDTF

ungrateful dope
hope he loses


6 posted on 05/12/2008 4:07:12 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: kAcknor

BS while christian male = BS white christian male


7 posted on 05/12/2008 4:07:45 PM PDT by kAcknor ("A pistol! Are you expecting trouble sir?" "No ma'am, were I expecting trouble I'd have a rifle.")
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To: RDTF

Man who flys in airplane toilet is bound to get ass in jam.


8 posted on 05/12/2008 4:09:08 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: cmsgop

just doesn’t sound probable. I fly a lot and they are dead serious about the seatbelt.


9 posted on 05/12/2008 4:09:38 PM PDT by RDTF (my worst nightmare is being on jury duty sequestered with 11 liberals)
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To: RDTF
So he got a FREE ticket from his FRIEND. He was a GUEST on the plane, complied with the toilet sitting (probably without letting out a peep of objection, seeing dollar signs in the making) and then SUED the airline:

1. Help muzzie

2. Get sued by muzzie

10 posted on 05/12/2008 4:10:09 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: RDTF

With a plane that crowded, there should be plenty of witnesses.


11 posted on 05/12/2008 4:10:18 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: RDTF

Bet the FAA would be interested if he was not sitting down and strapped in when they landed.

Perhaps driving a cab for ten years or so will teach the captain that what he says doesn’t always go.


12 posted on 05/12/2008 4:10:43 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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To: RDTF
So he got a FREE ticket from his FRIEND. He was a GUEST on the plane, complied with the toilet sitting (probably without letting out a peep of objection, seeing dollar signs in the making) and then SUED the airline:

1. Help muzzie

2. Get sued by muzzie

13 posted on 05/12/2008 4:10:56 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: RDTF

Oh, I so agree, reeks of B.S.


14 posted on 05/12/2008 4:11:38 PM PDT by cmsgop (I can't believe my wife downloaded "Philadelphia Freedom"on my iPod........)
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To: RDTF

He has no legal case for damages, since he didn’t pay for his seat.

But both pilot and stew were clearly being jerks.


15 posted on 05/12/2008 4:11:47 PM PDT by marron
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To: RDTF
Mutlu was traveling on a a "buddy pass," a standby travel voucher that JetBlue employees give to friends, from New York to San Diego on Feb. 16, and returned to New York on Feb. 23, the lawsuit said.

That explains everything. He paid a fraction of the price for his ticket, than any other passenger. Furthermore, the terms and conditions stipulated on the Buddy Pass specifically state that he may be asked to give up his seat, he can only eat the 'meal' if there are ample meals for the 'revenue generating passengers'. If there is a First Class seat available, he may get a free upgrade to First Class. He is expected to dress 'Business casual' and not to discuss his ticket, what he paid or any other of the perks he is to receive with fellow passengers.

Basically, this piece of work has taken a gift of goodwill, a employee benefit and has decided to sue the company for providing him a substantially reduced fare, because he didn't get to sit in a comfortable seat. Last time I flew, tickets that were normally $425 round trip cost me $75.

The result of this mess may be that no one gets 'Buddy Passes' in the future. BTW, the Buddy Pass states that the person who gave the pass to you is personally responsible for your behavior. In other words, if you act like a jerk - the person who gave you the buddy pass may get disciplinary actions taken against them. So, I'm sure that the employee who decided to give this person one of his (limited) Buddy Passes is truly regretting it now.

Some people should just be kicked out before the plane lands.

16 posted on 05/12/2008 4:12:03 PM PDT by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: RDTF

...”just doesn’t sound probable. I fly a lot and they are dead serious about the seatbelt...”

Agree. Something sounds fishy. Leave it up to our press to not do their homework. (Heck, they obviously didn’t have to do any in J-school.)


17 posted on 05/12/2008 4:12:17 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: RDTF

It’s quite possible we have a pilot angling for some flight attendant tail. Under those conditions, anything’s possible.


18 posted on 05/12/2008 4:12:32 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: RDTF

Doesn’t smell right.....however his BUDDY that works for Jet Blue should be looked into.


19 posted on 05/12/2008 4:12:42 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Hodar

He didn’t get a seat, comfortable or not. But I know, he has a funny name.


20 posted on 05/12/2008 4:13:56 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Cyber Liberty
He didn’t pay for his seat. He’s entitled to zero.

Actually, once he was given a boarding pass, he was entitled to a SAFE seat, and the bathroom doesn't count.

What would have happened had there been turbulence?

If this turns out to be true, it could be actionable. They did quite possibly put his safety in danger.

Mark

21 posted on 05/12/2008 4:16:59 PM PDT by MarkL
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To: Wolfie

He was given a seat.

However, for reasons the article doesn’t go into; the stewardess was ‘uncomfortable’ with the jump seat. The Captain of the aircraft made the decision that the non-revenue passenger should give up his seat, so that the stewardess could sit down.

We do not know the situation with the stewardess. Was she pregnant? Hip surgery? Car accident?

Was the Captain being a jerk? I don’t know, I wasn’t there.

But, I have flown on a Buddy Pass before, and you are told that the benefits you get by flying on a Buddy Pass (very cheap rates, possible free 1st Class upgrade) include not being able to fly on a flight if it is booked, losing your seat if asked, and no recourse if the flight is canceled or delayed.

I’ve never heard of a man being asked to sit in the toilet, but with the plane landing - I’ll assume the stewardess sat in the jump seat during the landing so that he could be buckled in.


22 posted on 05/12/2008 4:20:13 PM PDT by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: RDTF

He should sue that he did was denied TV reception in his new seat. That one he might just win.


23 posted on 05/12/2008 4:21:07 PM PDT by rod1 (u)
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To: RDTF
Who is old enough to remember:

My name hees José Jiménez Gokhan Mutlu. Hi ham astronawt. Hi seet heen hay space capzule Jet Blue toity.


24 posted on 05/12/2008 4:24:07 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Leftists stop arguing when they see your patriotism, your logic, your CAR-15 and your block of C4.)
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To: Hodar

I guess we’ll find out. But if I’m this guy, and the facts are stated as true, I’m suing too. And heading straight to the FAA while I’m at it. If the stew couldn’t sit in the jumpseat, they should have bumped him from the flight BEFORE it took off.


25 posted on 05/12/2008 4:24:37 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: RDTF

What a crappy thing to happen!


26 posted on 05/12/2008 4:24:52 PM PDT by starlifter
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To: MarkL

>>>>it could be actionable. They did quite possibly put his safety in danger.

True, but what are his damamges? Liability without damages is a $1 verdict.


27 posted on 05/12/2008 4:26:21 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Leftists stop arguing when they see your patriotism, your logic, your CAR-15 and your block of C4.)
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To: Hodar
Okay, I see, I get it, but how in the FAA does one get sent to the toilet without a seatbelt? I'm looking at the safety angle of this.
28 posted on 05/12/2008 4:26:34 PM PDT by cmsgop (I can't believe my wife downloaded "Philadelphia Freedom"on my iPod........)
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To: kAcknor
I'm with you. If he can sit on the toilet for four hours he could sit in the jumpseat for four hours. The pilot was a bullshitter.

But really, the attendant should have stayed in the jump seat. Period.

29 posted on 05/12/2008 4:29:02 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: RDTF

Suing over non-rev seating. Well, that will go over really well in court.


30 posted on 05/12/2008 4:29:26 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Wolfie

Aaahaaa. And there is the probable reason.


31 posted on 05/12/2008 4:29:46 PM PDT by commonguymd (Let the socialists duke it out. All three of them.)
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To: Wolfie
It’s quite possible we have a pilot angling for some flight attendant tail. Under those conditions, anything’s possible.

DING! DING! We have a winner.

32 posted on 05/12/2008 4:30:50 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (The road to hell is paved with the stones of pragmatism.)
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To: Wolfie

I agree


33 posted on 05/12/2008 4:31:01 PM PDT by cmsgop (I can't believe my wife downloaded "Philadelphia Freedom"on my iPod........)
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To: RDTF

The real issue is why was the stewardess sitting down at all? Isn’t she supposed to be working the flight?


34 posted on 05/12/2008 4:31:21 PM PDT by Aunt Polgara
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To: RDTF
I fly a lot and they are dead serious about the seatbelt.

If something had happened and he had gotten injured from not wearing the seatbelt, the airline would undoubtedly have been held liable. I agree that this reeks of steaming cow maneuver.

35 posted on 05/12/2008 4:34:00 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Who's worried about the Bolsheviks? They couldn't be worse than the Tsar!)
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To: RDTF
I'd be willing to bet that the captain violated at least one FAA safety regulation here.Hopefully,Jet Blue will suffer serious sanctions in this case.safety id safety,regardless of whether or not the guy in question was a "revenue" passenger of not.

I,for one,have no use for Jet Blue anyway.They fly Airbust aircraft exclusively and my attitude is "if it ain't Boeing,I ain't going".

36 posted on 05/12/2008 4:34:32 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Women swooned in Mao's presence too.)
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To: Hodar

From a safety standpoint, what is the difference in this guy and someone taking a 3 hour dump in the bathroom?


37 posted on 05/12/2008 4:35:11 PM PDT by Rebelbase (McCain: The Third Bush Term ?)
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To: hinckley buzzard

If the Muzzle can afford a lawyer then he should be able to afford a regular seat. I can’t see any Muzzle complaining for being confined in a Muzzle dream room for four hours.


38 posted on 05/12/2008 4:37:49 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: RDTF
he was the pilot, that this was his plane, under his command

i.e. The pilot is Number 1. This passenger is Number 2 -- hence his accommodations on the flight.

39 posted on 05/12/2008 4:38:29 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: RDTF

A good friend, out of the goodness of his heart, offered to help a muzzie move a couple years back. It was someone he didn’t know well at all, but he’s just a kind person.

He was unaware of what mussie’s do to kind folks. The muzzie called the cops, filed a complaint against my friend and his brother, accusing them of stealing a bunch of his stuff. The cops were sympathetic to my friend, but a complaint is a complaint.

It took my friend and his brother thousands and thousands to hire an attorney and fight the accusation. They were facing prison time.

They finally got cleared, in part because it was found out that this guy had done this before.

I will NEVER, repeat NEVER allow a muzzie doctor to touch me, or have anything to do with any of my medical stuff.

As they say in Minnesota (where I’m from) “They’re Different”.


40 posted on 05/12/2008 4:38:45 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (OVERPRODUCTION......... one of the top five worries for American farmers.)
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To: RDTF
Say Good Bye BUDDY PASS!!!
41 posted on 05/12/2008 4:39:23 PM PDT by ricks_place
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To: marron

Wrong.Regardless if you paid for the ticket or not,you have the same legal rights as a person seating next to you.The moment crew let you board their plane as a passenger,you covered.Same argument can be made after you redeem your miles or, in some cases, have free ticket for your spouse or friend.If this is a true story,FAA will have pilot and Jetblue for breakfast.And I can assure you that Jetblue will settle this case quickly.


42 posted on 05/12/2008 4:39:49 PM PDT by QQQQ
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To: Rebelbase
From a safety standpoint, what is the difference in this guy and someone taking a 3 hour dump in the bathroom?

The latter is far more likely to sicken his fellow passengers?

43 posted on 05/12/2008 4:39:51 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: MarkL

I think the attendant needs to be evaluated for requiring a special seat.


44 posted on 05/12/2008 4:41:55 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Don’t trust anyone who can’t take a joke. [Congressman BillyBob])
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To: marron

“He has no legal case for damages, since he didn’t pay for his seat.”

I dunno, he was given a seat on the airplane. I’m pretty sure the part about maybe having to give up his seat meant before the plane took off, not once the plane was in flight. He had as much right to a seat as any other passenger who got any discount, or someone who walked up to the ticket counter the day of the flight and paid the extortion rate.

But the flip side is at least he didn’t have to stand in line to use the head.


45 posted on 05/12/2008 4:42:00 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: imahawk

Flying imans.

Then again he might have been a “special buddy”. I though those buddy passes were for people who cohabitated with employees but were not married.


46 posted on 05/12/2008 4:43:31 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Hodar
Furthermore, the terms and conditions stipulated on the Buddy Pass specifically state that he may be asked to give up his seat

During the flight?

BTW, the Buddy Pass states that the person who gave the pass to you is personally responsible for your behavior. In other words, if you act like a jerk - the person who gave you the buddy pass may get disciplinary actions taken against them.

Unless he did something more than object when asked to go sit on the toilet with no seat belt for the remainder of a flight, he did not act like a jerk. A better candidate for that title would be the pilot or the flight attendant who initially agreed to fly in the jump-seat then changed his/her mind.
47 posted on 05/12/2008 4:44:21 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: RDTF

I’d love to see the contract here.....


48 posted on 05/12/2008 4:50:11 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in - Michael Corleone)
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To: Wolfie
It’s quite possible we have a pilot angling for some flight attendant tail.

The pilot should pay more attention to his attitude and less to the tail.   ;->

49 posted on 05/12/2008 4:50:35 PM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: RDTF

more than $2 million .

Gokhan Mutlu

traveling on a a “buddy pass,”


50 posted on 05/12/2008 4:51:00 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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