Beam me to Planet Gore !
Posted on 05/12/2008 10:25:21 PM PDT by parousia
GOP presidential nominee John McCain is using the idea of global togetherness to promote “a cap-and-trade system” to battle climate change. He said “Americans and Europeans need to get serious about substantially reducing greenhouse gas emissions in the coming years or we will hand over a much-diminished world to our grandchildren.”
According to the Arizona senator, whose opinion column appeared in the March 19 Financial Times, the United States needs to work with Europe to create a replacement for the Kyoto treaty.
“We need a successor to Kyoto, a cap-and-trade system that delivers the necessary environmental impact in an economically responsible manner.” He said America needs to be willing to be “persuaded” by our European allies. McCain’s column was headlined “America must be a good role model.”
However, he never addressed the potential costs of his proposal.
McCain talked about Americans and Europeans leading together but only said he wanted to “encourage the participation of the rest of the world, including most importantly, the developing economic powerhouses of China and India.”
But experience has already shown that government intervention in environmental issues can have negative consequences. Ethanol mandates have artificially inflated demand for corn and affected grocery prices. And recent studies have shown ethanol isn’t any better for the environment than burning fossil fuels.
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John McCain is using the idea of global togetherness to promote “a cap-and-trade system” to battle climate change. He said “Americans and Europeans need to get serious about substantially reducing greenhouse gas emissions in the coming years or we will hand over a much-diminished world to our grandchildren.”
McCain’s Cap and Trade system would allows for gradual reduction of emissions would control business production and create more bureaucracy to issue permits...require more accountability of govt to meet goals and deadlines.This is 1 step short of nationalizing businesses.
After they go after the big boys, Cap and Trade will be applied to you...you will be tracked as they drive down your standard of living.
Oh shut up McCain. You aren’t helping getting yourself elected with stupid talk like that. At the very least, you could try keep up to date on the “global warming” farce instead of trying to be “popular” and parroting that idiotic nonsense..
Please God, send us a miracle, send us an independent candidate to vote for.
(Shakes head. Walks off into sunset.)
I’m partial to the new “Climate Change Credit Corporation” and the “Change Deficit Reduction Fund” that are part of the Senate bill.
I give them credit for knowing how to create huge bureaucracies. Pricetags, nor the Constitution, ever seem to matter. If only McCain would apply some of his new-found outrage for activist-judges to kick the activist-Senators in the arse. If only he had one nth the passion for controlling the border that he does for controlling the weather (Chasing windmills seem to be his preferred choice).
When it comes to OPM, they seem to have no limits. What’s a few trillion among friends, anyway.
I’ve heard people actually advocating preemptive measures to combat global warming, such as bioengineering co2 eating super-algae or setting off nuclear weapons to trigger a mild nuclear winter effect. All they need is a president stupid enough to try it.
But not China...
Check out this link:
World's 10 Most Polluted Places
Whay are the enviro-nuts not complaining about these cities?
Talk about hubris: it’s impossible to fight natural global phenomena / cycles & trends.
McCain has absolutely no business being anywhere near the oval office. If Obama is elected, McCain has no one to blame but himself. I certainly won’t vote for the fool.
McCain is rock stupid and if anyone could lose to Obama, it would be McCain. I can’t vote for this man so I surely hope he knows what he is doing. When he figures out the independents and mushy middle won’t get him elected he might make some overtures to conservatives. Personally, his overtures will be too late. The GOP has lost its collective mind and has jumped the rails. Is a decent candidate, a semi-capable leader too much to ask? Have we really come this far to piss it all away in one election cycle?
....hey, maybe they can go after the fast food industry,....
, or the sports industry, maybe carbon credits for baseball stadium lights.....
or the music industry
cap and trade snoop dogg
We will know who to blame if McCain and the rest of the idiots in Washington tank the economy over a global warming mirage.
I’m about fed up with the Pubbie candidate.
McLame is efficiently completing the following tasks at America's expense:
1.) Make it unpopular to be a testosterone-based, heterosexual man.
2.) Make it impossible to cover the cost of driving a V8 with a 300+ Horsepower Engine.
3.) Make it wrong to love American solidarity and our National identity.
4.) Call everyone a "bunch of bigots" if they disagree with his plans.
5.) Give Conservatives the middle finger on everything else.
6.) Pander, pander and pander some more to everyone but white people. Make the white Americans feel guilty for existing.
etc, etc, etc...
This is one of the three major reasons that I can’t even ‘hold my nose and vote’ for this arrogant, ignorant lunatic.
One of the reasons that the Republican Party as a whole won’t get a dime from me. I’ve been giving DIRECTLY to the few sane, conservative candidates left in the GOP, but the rest of them deserve to lose.
Someone once posted onto the forums that McCain is mediocre at everything he does, and whether he knows it or not, he is extremely arrogant about it.
If you call him on his mediocrity, out comes the Vietnam POW card and you have to shut up right then and there.
End of story.
I wonder if that card will work during his fight against Obama in November?
I’ll save my farts for him. fu-kin idiot
Does McStrange really want to be president?
This guy is imploding. Who first McCain or Obama?
Sickening.
A friend on Capitol Hill told me ten years ago that whenever there was a negative comment about McCain in the press, his staff had to devote a week to getting him down off the wall. A severely damaged neurotic.
McCain is dumb. And most of his energy goes into moral preening. Listen to his speeches. The primary subject is how morally superior McCain is to other Republicans.
Because:
a) There’s no money in it.
b) Those countries will tell the enviro-fascists to suck eggs.
c) The intent of the enviro-fascists is to retard American and Western growth in order to achieve global income equality.
You can always re-pledge loyalty to the crown... :)
Next you will hear that your barbecue grill causes global warming and you need a $500 permit to grill your steak to offset your CO2 contribution. And McCain will lap up this eco-fascist propaganda. He is stupid beyond measure.
Ronald Reagan fought regulation. John McCain brought regulation.
“Global togetherness”
What a load of sh......
So why would I vote for McCain?
National Socialism
I guess the Democraps have tons of DUmmies and the GOP has a great big dummy as a candidate.
I will not vote for this socialist.
Exactly! For the first time in my adult life (53 years) I am not voting for President. I will vote for the lower ballot, but I have decided I can not vote for McCain, and this latest BS about Global Warming is one of the main reasons.
McCain WILL NOT HAVE MY VOTE after his speech yesterday on Cap & Trade. McCain supporters called me for a donation and I lit into them for 5 solid minutes and said that if they got anything at all, it would be a peso and a carbon offset. It felt great! The AGW crowd must be fought at all costs!
That way we can defeat cap and trade.
I'm sure that everyone will prefer Cap and Tax.
The way I see it is this:
Obama will screw this country up pretty bad for the next four years through his ultra-liberal hate-America-first ideas and relative inexperience.
McCain will screw this country up pretty bad for the next four years through his pretty-dang-liberal reach-across-the-aisle ideas and so much experience he will get both sides to go along with him.
In the first scenario - the dems will get the blame, we will have finally had the “first black president” (so maybe we can finally move on) and people will be ready to vote for REAL change - IF - a good conservative will step up to lead us out of this wilderness.
In the second scenario - the republicans will get the blame - people will be so sick to death of the party that they will vote for ANYTHING as long as it isn’t a republican! Probably, at that point - Hillary will be ready for her comeback - and we’ll still have to worry about that.
McCain is a pompous, deluded idiot. No matter who wins, we are so screwed - I would rather the dems get the blame for it than the republicans. No way does this man get my vote - let the chips fall where they may. A vote for McCain is another nail in the GOP’s coffin.
McCain is just plain (Silly) and is a poor choice for our Repub nominee.
The Bottom Line,
NSNR
Semi-capable is definitely what we've had since 2000. Anyway, I don't think the GOP has lost its mind. I think that we held primaries, and there was not a single good, well-funded, qualified conservative candidate in the bunch. Not a one.
It's a free country. If the conservative movement is all that, where was their leadership? Where was their organization? Maybe the conservative movement got complacent and thought the GOP would do all the work for them? But the GOP is just a party, a vessel. Their interests are not the same as conservatives'. There's are far more practical and self-serving.
So enough with blaming the GOP for acting like what it is. How about blaming the conservative movement for its utter lack of conservative leadership. Even now, there is no one we know of waiting in the wings. John McCain won by default.
Time for an uprising he is not electable and we need a person who is, then put him away in the funny farm.
lol! First of all, McCain's probably going to win. Second, we had our chance. We had primaries. Who was the most electable in the bunch? McCain. Not the gay friendly Mormon from Massachusetts. Not the cross dressing liberal from New Yawk. Not the nanny state yokel from Arkansas. Not the tired, late for his own funeral prune Fred Thompson, not the unknown, unfunded Duncan Hunter, not the guy who can't win dog catcher Alan Keyes. None of em. That's how we ended up with McCain.
He is a sell out. Why people on Free Republic still support him is beyond me?
The “Cap and Trade” on freedom is what will give a diminished world to our children.
My letter to the GOP:
Dear Mr. Duncan,
I didn’t think there was much more the GOP and John McCain could do to alienate their conservative base (amnesty, campaign finance, out of control spending, etc.). Clearly, I was wrong. With more and more evidence and public opinion contradicting our ability to warm or cool the planet, you folks have gone off the deep end for one thing; Politics. This used to be the party of Goldwater and Reagan. If we could only tap the energy being created by those two spinning in their collective graves, we’d solve our energy problems. Oh wait, I have an idea. Why doesn’t the GOP get in the trenches and start fighting for; 1) drilling in Anwar, 2) drilling in the Dakota’s, 3) allowing refinery to be built in the USA (remember us) which hasn’t been done in over 40 years, 4) undoing a Clinton executive order that bars Utah from mining the largest clean burning coal deposits in the world ( can you say Riady, sure you can).
I can trust a liberal, because I know where he’s coming from. I can’t trust the GOP, because the RINO’S are running the party and I don’t know what they stand for anymore.
Sincerely and with great sadness and disappointment,
John Haines
Lake Orion, MI
Former Republican and current Independent
Ps. No more $
The stupid party has earned elite status by their virtues. They do what they are best of, being morons.
Really? It's so obvious and simple. I am going to vote for McCain no matter how much clap trap he adds on the pile. Why? Because no matter how hard he tries, he still won't be as bad as Obama. Why people expect anything more than what we get from politicians is beyond me.
They're politicians. Not exactly the cream of the crop.
So you rather our country die a slow death than a quick?
This is why I choose neither. There is not one conservative or even an independent running for President. I am sorry, but McCain will NEVER get my vote. We have a choice between a liberal, a Socialist and a communist.
Sorry I cannot vote for any of them.
Such hysterics. America is not going to die. If Carter couldn't kill us, if LBJ couldn't kill us...
And come to think of it, look at our history. Why suddenly now do you think it's time to stop voting and just sit waiting to die? Obama is somehow worse than Woodrow Wilson? Than FDR? Than LBJ?
We've survived the left/right battles for quite some time now. Not without scars, but we're still here. You can surrender if you want, but not me.
This is why I choose neither.
It's a meaningless choice. No matter what choice YOU make, America WILL make a choice. So your choice not to choose is merely self-serving avoidance. It's a tough decision. You've never had to make tough choices? You always have a highly desirable option in life? Not me.
I remember the time I got a fish hook lodged under my finger nail, barb and all. I could go to the emergency room, or I could just give it a yank and hope for the best. Neither choice was a desirable one, but I had to decide. So I gave it a hard yank, and wouldn't you know, it was like a miracle. Thing came right out. Sometimes we're unexpectedly rewarded for making the tough choice. Maybe this is one of those times.
There is not one conservative or even an independent running for President.
I would say McCain is an independent. They tend to be liberal on quite a few things. That's partly how they get the tag. But they tend to be conservative on some things too, which is also how they get the tag.
I am sorry, but McCain will NEVER get my vote. We have a choice between a liberal, a Socialist and a communist.
In my view, you should be sorry. You're copping out.
Sorry I cannot vote for any of them.
Like I said, you should be sorry. There will likely be 100 million Americans who WILL vote. The election will have an outcome. It's our duty to make the best choice.
I can justify voting for McCain on one issue above all, the same reason I could justify voting for GWB, despite his incompetence. The troops on the ground at minimum deserve a commander in chief who is unambiguously on our side. Once again, we have a clear distinction on that score. There are other reasons, but that one is enough for me. If the troops have the balls to make the tough decision to risk their one and only precious life on earth to protect the USA--conservatives and libs--then I should have the stones to make a somewhat disagreeable choice on their behalf.
This is the comment that really amazes and perplexes me. As if a vote for GWB wasn't a vote for the lesser of two evils? It damn sure was. And it was the correct vote. And it was a winning vote, as well. I really can't relate to people who behave as if this is the first time George Washington wasn't on the GOP ticket.
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