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Fence doesn't stop bittersweet reunions (immigration sob story - captions, please)
Houston Chronicle ^ | 5/12/08 | Ashley Surdin

Posted on 05/13/2008 6:00:32 AM PDT by redstates4ever

"Francelia Menchaca drove with her family from Phoenix to the Tijuana border to see her mother at the fence on Saturday.

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You can walk to the U.S. border, Francelia Menchaca's immigration lawyer advised her, but don't put your fingers through its fence. It may hinder her immigration paperwork, the lawyer said.

But when, after a year apart, Menchaca's mother arrived in her flowered straw hat to the border in Tijuana on Saturday and put her small, wrinkled hands up to the cast-iron gate, Menchaca reached out and touched them.

"Were you anxious to touch my hand?" Menchaca asked in Spanish. Tears stood on her lashes.

"Yes," said her mother, Francisca Rodriguez, a resident of Tijuana, as her three grandchildren, including a 10-month-old girl she had never seen, strained to be near her.


TOPICS: Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; crymeariver; illegals; immigrantlist; immigrants; immigration
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Typical Houston Chronicle. Can't you just hear the violins in the background?
1 posted on 05/13/2008 6:01:07 AM PDT by redstates4ever
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To: reagan_fanatic; OESY; Thrownatbirth; Lady Jag; ShorelineMike; dead; Lucky9teen; PBRSTREETGANG; ...

Caption this immigration sob story *ping*


2 posted on 05/13/2008 6:01:45 AM PDT by redstates4ever
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To: redstates4ever

Too bad it’s not a prison fence instead of a border fence.


3 posted on 05/13/2008 6:02:29 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (DemocRATS....the party of Slavery, Segregation, Secularism, and Sedition)
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To: redstates4ever

This is asinine!

GO TO *MEXICO* AND VISIT HER, DRAMA QUEEN. STAY AS LONG AS YOU LIKE...


4 posted on 05/13/2008 6:03:27 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (La Raza hates white folks. And John McCain loves La Raza!)
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To: redstates4ever

Oh for cryin’ out loud! Fry me a liver!


5 posted on 05/13/2008 6:03:47 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (If my dog had hands, he could be a surgeon. He's already smart enough.)
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To: redstates4ever

Bitchin’ shades, makeup, healthy complexion...that must be the American side of the fence.


6 posted on 05/13/2008 6:04:15 AM PDT by Huck ("Real" conservatives support OBAMA in 08 (that's how you know Im not a real conservative))
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To: redstates4ever
Hey dumb@ss, the fence is NOT keeping you in AMERICA - drive over the border and visit your mother in Mexico.
7 posted on 05/13/2008 6:05:28 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: redstates4ever

Last time I checked, American citizens can travel freely back and forth between the border. If that’s the case, then why the high tear jerk drama through the fence? Why not just cross the border and visit grandma? Could it be that the Menchaca’s are illegals? The article conveniently doesn’t specify.


8 posted on 05/13/2008 6:08:51 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The GOP death march to the gravesite is underway.)
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To: redstates4ever


We need a bigger fence!
9 posted on 05/13/2008 6:12:01 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: Ouderkirk

The story is ridiculous, since the young lady COULD take the grandkids to Mexico for a visit.

But I’m curious as to why you think it’s: “Too bad it’s not a prison fence instead of a border fence.”

It appears this particular family is trying to have its members LEGALLY immigrate. What’s wrong with that?


10 posted on 05/13/2008 6:12:35 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: redstates4ever

Why such a big hole in the fence? And why isn’t it electrified?


11 posted on 05/13/2008 6:12:55 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: 2banana

12 posted on 05/13/2008 6:14:38 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: P8riot
And why isn’t it electrified?

Because this isn't East Berlin?

13 posted on 05/13/2008 6:17:04 AM PDT by Pistolshot (When you let what you are define who you are, you create racial divisiveness.)
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To: redstates4ever
Simple solution.....

GO HOME!!

14 posted on 05/13/2008 6:18:00 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (A good man has come home to San Diego! Thank you Congressman Hunter)
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To: redstates4ever
Was there a reason why Francisca Rodriguez couldn't just get a tourist visa (is one even needed to cross for a couple days to visit), get picked up by her family and driven to Phoenix for a real visit instead of standing at the fence?
15 posted on 05/13/2008 6:19:30 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Pray for Rattendaemmerung: the final mutually destructive battle between Obama and Hillary in Denver)
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To: Diogenesis

HEY, one of those arrows is pointing STRAIGHT at Culpeper, Virginia.


16 posted on 05/13/2008 6:20:16 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: P8riot
Why such a big hole in the fence? And why isn’t it electrified?

And why aren't we using landmines... they can easily fill in the gaps where building the wall would be initially very expensive.

17 posted on 05/13/2008 6:20:32 AM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: redstates4ever

Tell Mexico to let this daughter move to their country so she can be with her mother. Why is Mexico so MEAN?!!!


18 posted on 05/13/2008 6:21:25 AM PDT by weegee (Osama Obama claims to have visited 57 states now. Can you say Potatoe Head?)
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To: WayneS
It appears this particular family is trying to have its members LEGALLY immigrate. What’s wrong with that?

I don't know.

Francelia Menchaca's immigration lawyer advised her, but don't put your fingers through its fence. It may hinder her immigration paperwork, the lawyer said.
Why would putting her fingers through the fence hinder her immigration paperwork unless she is here illegally and trying to obtain legal status??
19 posted on 05/13/2008 6:21:31 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: redstates4ever

20 posted on 05/13/2008 6:21:35 AM PDT by JRios1968 ("If you go over a cliff with all flags flying, you are still going over a cliff"--Ronald Reagan)
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To: Pistolshot
Because this isn't East Berlin?

Unlike East Berlin, there's nothing stopping any of the people in this article from crossing the border legally to be with one another.

21 posted on 05/13/2008 6:21:59 AM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: WayneS

I begets the question, How did this woman enter the USA in the first place?

I’m betting that it was illegally. And yet we are going to reward her with citizenship, and allow other members of her family entry and citizenship.

Hence my argument that she should be looking out of a prison fence.


22 posted on 05/13/2008 6:23:06 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (DemocRATS....the party of Slavery, Segregation, Secularism, and Sedition)
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To: redstates4ever
It is unfortunate that breaking the law creates such inconvenience for those that benefit from the criminal activity.
23 posted on 05/13/2008 6:24:40 AM PDT by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: TADSLOS

Depending on how she’s trying to become legal, she may *not* be able to cross back into Mexico even for a visit. My wife used to work as a secretary for an immigration lawyer processing L-1 and similar types of visas, and permanent residency. There were situations during the paperwork processing where the visaholders were not allowed to leave the country, period, or their applications would get shot down. Why, I don’t know, but those were the rules.

Our immigration laws in this country are totally wrecked. It’s sheer hell for a motivated person who wants to become an American to gain a visa, residency, or citizenship, but we welcome illegal invaders across the border by the millions. It’s Bizarro World.

}:-)4


24 posted on 05/13/2008 6:24:56 AM PDT by Moose4 (http://moosedroppings.wordpress.com -- Because 20 million self-important blogs just aren't enough.)
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To: VRWCmember

What a ridiculous story. From it I gathered.....

Francelia Menchaca is illegal and has filed for citizenship
Francelia Menchaca has a couple of anchor babies
The mother could have just walked across the border with a tourist visa so....
The point of the story must be.....poor illegal alien.


25 posted on 05/13/2008 6:25:17 AM PDT by sheana
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To: redstates4ever

"I am so sorry, Mami, but we're not going to get the southwestern U.S. back for Mexico..."

26 posted on 05/13/2008 6:28:56 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (To the liberal, there's no sacrifice too big for somebody else to make. --FReeper popdonnelly)
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To: redstates4ever
Caption:'Mom, I got you an ABSENTEE BALLOT so you can vote for BARAK OBAMA. Don't Worry, BobBarr will help Barak get Elected.'
27 posted on 05/13/2008 6:30:13 AM PDT by EagleandLiberty (El Rushbo Tribal name -- RinoHunter Vote Conservatives '08)
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To: redstates4ever

This is completely contrived.


28 posted on 05/13/2008 6:31:27 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: pnh102
Unlike East Berlin, there's nothing stopping any of the people in this article from crossing the border legally to be with one another.

True. Still doesn't justify the 'electrified fence' comment.

29 posted on 05/13/2008 6:32:19 AM PDT by Pistolshot (When you let what you are define who you are, you create racial divisiveness.)
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To: redstates4ever


"You coulda squeezed thru the fence with me Mama, but noooo - you had to keep eating those fried enchiladas and refried beans..."
30 posted on 05/13/2008 6:33:51 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Average White Conservative)
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To: redstates4ever

The daughter and her family are free to join her mother in mexico.


31 posted on 05/13/2008 6:35:56 AM PDT by Anonymous Rex ( For Rent)
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To: redstates4ever
Oh, good grief. This just tugs at my heartstrings.

Oh, wait....that's my stomach.

32 posted on 05/13/2008 6:40:21 AM PDT by Allegra (TEHRAN DELENDA EST)
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To: redstates4ever

Another reason for an ELECTRIC fence.


33 posted on 05/13/2008 6:42:08 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: redstates4ever

“Francelia Menchaca’s immigration lawyer advised her, *but don’t put your fingers through its fence*.”

See photo, hand through fence caressing poor, gray-haired mother, pobrecita.


34 posted on 05/13/2008 6:42:55 AM PDT by tumblindice (hey, laws, lawyers--it's all optional)
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To: SJSAMPLE
Another reason for an ELECTRIC fence.

Good luck with that, comrade.

35 posted on 05/13/2008 6:43:58 AM PDT by Pistolshot (When you let what you are define who you are, you create racial divisiveness.)
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To: Ouderkirk
"Franchela, why didn't we meet at the hotel over a nice glass of wine instead of looking at each other through a rusty fence?" "Oh momma don't be so silly. The AP is paying me mucho dinero for this photograph!"
36 posted on 05/13/2008 6:48:02 AM PDT by Holicheese (Hillary deserves the CMoH for her time in Tuzla!)
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To: Pistolshot

I can dream.


37 posted on 05/13/2008 6:49:21 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: SJSAMPLE
Try this in 3 layers.


38 posted on 05/13/2008 6:51:11 AM PDT by Pistolshot (When you let what you are define who you are, you create racial divisiveness.)
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To: tumblindice

The mother took off her flowered straw hat.. I wonder where that big gap in the fence is? Border patrol should be alerted... I have seen holes smaller than that under the fence the illegals can get thru


39 posted on 05/13/2008 6:51:31 AM PDT by JoanneSD (illegals represented without taxation.. Americans taxed without representation)
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To: Pistolshot

Photoshop!!!

John McCain said such a thing is impossible :)


40 posted on 05/13/2008 6:53:24 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Pistolshot
Personally, I would prefer an East Berlin style fence to keep them out. Solid concrete, concertina razor wire, with guard towers and a 100 yard no man's land. Any who approach from the south will be shot to be killed.

You talk a good game, but yet when it comes to actually making something that works, you're actually a bleeding heart. At least the commies knew how to build a fence that actually worked as intended.

41 posted on 05/13/2008 6:57:33 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (DemocRATS....the party of Slavery, Segregation, Secularism, and Sedition)
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To: JoanneSD

Here’s Ashley’s e-mail. Tell her you want to lay some flowers at the spot, then when she supplies the precise location forward it on to the closest local BP station.

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/staff/email/ashley+surdin/


42 posted on 05/13/2008 6:59:22 AM PDT by tumblindice (She got electric boobs, mohair shoes--you know I read it in a magazine)
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To: SJSAMPLE

That’s along the Arizona border. There are 9 different types of fencing that will be installed to compensate for terrain variations. Coupled with some of the sensor networks in more remote areas, the coverage will be total. Getting BP officers to the intrusion points will be the trick.


43 posted on 05/13/2008 6:59:52 AM PDT by Pistolshot (When you let what you are define who you are, you create racial divisiveness.)
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To: Pistolshot

Didn’t that moron Chertikov declare the $20m test of the “virtual” fence to be a total failure?

I prefer 100% fencing, but certain areas (like Texas’ national park) are too remote to require fencing. The terrain is too long and tough for any significant invasions.


44 posted on 05/13/2008 7:03:57 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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“That’s along the Arizona border.”

They moved Tijuana to Arizona? But where will San Diegans go now for cheap gas?


45 posted on 05/13/2008 7:06:03 AM PDT by tumblindice (She got electric boobs, mohair shoes--you know I read it in a magazine)
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To: WayneS
The story is ridiculous, since the young lady COULD take the grandkids to Mexico for a visit.

Actually, she probably can't.

I'm guessing she came to the US on a K1 Fiance Visa.

Once she is granted the Visa she enters the US and has to marry within 90 days.

After they marry, they have to apply for an adjustment of status to a permanent resident. It takes an average of six months from application for the adjustment of status, until it is granted, assuming her immigration lawyer is competent, and she doesn't do anything stupid during that time.

However, she were to leave the country during that time, she can't return, and her adjustment of status application is considered to be abandoned.

She can apply for advanced permission to leave and return, but even applying for that takes a couple months, and likely fees by the lawyer as well.

Any children born to her of a US citizen or born in the US are US citizens and could travel to Mexico and back. Any minor children she might have had from a previous relationship would be covered under the same Visa process as her, and would also need advanced permission to leave the country.

46 posted on 05/13/2008 7:19:44 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: VRWCmember
Why would putting her fingers through the fence hinder her immigration paperwork unless she is here illegally and trying to obtain legal status??

If you leave the country after applying for adjustment of status, you abandon your application unless you have gotten permission in advance. The process for getting permission to leave the country and return (Advanced Parole) takes about 60 days.

If she's entered on a K1 Fiancee Visa. It's only good for entry into the country once. So if she leaves without Advanced Parole, she not only abandons her application for permanent residence, she can't return to the US without applying for a new VISA and basically starting the immigration process over again.

While it's unlikely that sticking her fingers across the border would be considered leaving the country, her lawyer is giving her good advice not to risk it.

47 posted on 05/13/2008 7:27:53 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: redstates4ever

I hear them. Ah, the weeping for criminals touches their little Marxist hearts.


48 posted on 05/13/2008 7:46:13 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: redstates4ever

T.S.!....


49 posted on 05/13/2008 7:48:53 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: redstates4ever
after a year apart..... including a 10-month-old girl she had never seen.....

Hmmmm.....seems Francelia Menchaca (abt 6 mos. pregnant) waddled right across the border & dropped her anchor baby.

So where's the rest of the story ???? How much is the monthly welfare check, who paid the anchor baby bills ??

50 posted on 05/13/2008 7:52:44 AM PDT by txdoda (Voters to Gov't .......Re: post 9-11 Border Security....... ""The results are Unacceptable."")
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