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Governor Pushes For Felon Crackdown (Napolitano vs Sheriff Joe)
KPHO NEWS ^ | May 13, 2008 | KPHO NEWS

Posted on 05/14/2008 5:13:49 AM PDT by radar101

PHOENIX -- Gov. Janet Napolitano has ordered the state to end an anti-illegal immigration contract with the Maricopa County sheriff so she can pay for a larger effort to track down thousands of felons around Arizona.

The sheriff, Joe Arpaio, on Tuesday criticized the governor's decision as a maneuver to thwart his efforts against illegal immigrants.

"Dirty politics are at work right now," said Arpaio, who was flanked by Maricopa County Attorney Andrew Thomas, state House Speaker Jim Weiers and state Rep. Russell Pearce at a news conference.

All four men have staked out hawkish positions on illegal immigration reform. The sheriff has been criticized in particular for letting thousands of felony warrants go unserved while he chased after illegal immigrants.

According to the Arizona Department of Public Safety, there are about 59,000 outstanding, unserved felony warrants in the state. The majority of those are in Maricopa County.

Pennie Gillette-Stroud, the DPS chief of the criminal investigations division, said Napolitano's task force will focus on violent, repeat criminals as well as undocumented aliens with felony warrants.

The task force will be led by DPS and will combine local, state, federal and tribal authorities to track down felons around Arizona.

"We can go into different regions, concentrate on suspects that are problematic in other areas," Gillette-Stroud said.

DPS hasn't put a price tag on the task force. "We're putting together a plan with a budget to help determine those figures," Gillette-Stroud said.

But to help pay for the task force, DPS said it won't renew a $1.6 million contract between with the sheriff's office. Arpaio still can tap into that money if he cooperates with the state.

"We invite him," to cooperate, she said. "His personnel has a lot of experience."

Still, Arpaio and his supporters cried foul when they heard the news.

"I got news for the governor, I got news for the mayor, I got news for Mary Rose Wilcox and I got news for those activists that follow me around and destroy me from enforcing the illegal immigration laws," Arpaio said. "And we're going to keep doing it, money or no money, I guarantee you."

Weiers questioned the governor's decision to move money away from Arpaio. He said the money was intended for the sheriff and it appeared the governor may have violated the constitutional separation between government branches.

"As a legislator, I'm very upset," he said.

Napolitano spokeswoman Jeanine L'Ecuyer denied that the governor was trying to cut into efforts to stop illegal immigration.

"It couldn't be further from the truth," L'Ecuyer said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; arizona; hispandering; immigrantlist; immigration

1 posted on 05/14/2008 5:13:49 AM PDT by radar101
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To: GunsareOK; nerdwithamachinegun

ping


2 posted on 05/14/2008 5:16:57 AM PDT by BufordP (Had Mexicans flown planes into the World Trade Center, Jorge Bush would have surrendered.)
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To: radar101

The Dems are pretty slick operators, huh? They want to cut spending to catch illegals, so that they will have money to track down felons. It’s all in how you package the crapola.


3 posted on 05/14/2008 5:19:22 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: radar101

“Gov. Janet Napolitano has ordered the state to end an anti-illegal immigration contract with the Maricopa County sheriff so she can pay for a larger effort to track down thousands of felons around Arizona”.

...you gotta give the socialist Gov credit. She sure knows how to pull the wool over the sheeple’s eyes. (pardon the pun) Point is, that most of the felons throughout Arizona ARE illegals.


4 posted on 05/14/2008 5:19:35 AM PDT by albie
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To: radar101

God bless men like Sheriff Joe, we need a lot more of them. This goofy Governor just might get her head handed to her over this one.


5 posted on 05/14/2008 5:20:15 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: BufordP
""And we're going to keep doing it, money or no money, I guarantee you."

I LOVE YOU, SHERIFF JOE!!!
6 posted on 05/14/2008 5:20:57 AM PDT by NewCenturions (I've got a posthumous crush on Dave Guard)
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To: radar101
"I got news for the governor, I got news for the mayor, I got news for Mary Rose Wilcox and I got news for those activists that follow me around and destroy me from enforcing the illegal immigration laws," Arpaio said. "And we're going to keep doing it, money or no money, I guarantee you."

OK fine. But what about all those thousands of felony warrants not being served. You going to do anything about those?

7 posted on 05/14/2008 5:22:39 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: albie
Point is, that most of the felons throughout Arizona ARE illegals.

Then she's killing two birds with one stone, isn't she? Point is, if you have some illegal schmuck working in a sweatshop and an at-large fugitive with an armed robbery warrant then who should you be concentrating your efforts of catching?

8 posted on 05/14/2008 5:25:16 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: ontap
This goofy Governor just might get her head handed to her over this one.

I wish, but as long as she's been governor, I don't recall any negative publicity in our local media. She's a Democrat, so are they.
9 posted on 05/14/2008 5:25:28 AM PDT by ChocChipCookie (<----- Typical White Person)
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To: radar101

So who ya gonna believe and put your trust in. Sheriff Joe or the crazy lady governor?
You go Joe.


10 posted on 05/14/2008 5:29:03 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Non-Sequitur
OK fine. But what about all those thousands of felony warrants not being served. You going to do anything about those?

The governor has said that she wants the money to "go into other areas", which I took to mean other geographical areas of the state. Why do you believe that Arpaio's area is falling short with respect to serving felony warrants?

11 posted on 05/14/2008 5:30:58 AM PDT by MortMan (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything. - Alexander Hamilton)
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To: radar101; All

The sheriff, Joe Arpaio, FOR PRESIDENT!


12 posted on 05/14/2008 5:31:14 AM PDT by SouthernBoyupNorth ("For my wings are made of Tungsten, my flesh of glass and steel..........")
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To: MortMan
The governor has said that she wants the money to "go into other areas", which I took to mean other geographical areas of the state. Why do you believe that Arpaio's area is falling short with respect to serving felony warrants?

Because according to the story the governor also said there are almost 60,000 outstanding felony warrants in the state that need to be served, and the majority are in Maricopa County. That's why she says she's setting up the state-wide taskforce, and that's why she says she needs the money. And if her figures are correct then what's the sheriff doing about it?

13 posted on 05/14/2008 5:35:43 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur; radar101
Backlog of warrants not sole domain of Arpaio
14 posted on 05/14/2008 5:35:54 AM PDT by BufordP (Had Mexicans flown planes into the World Trade Center, Jorge Bush would have surrendered.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

I don’t believe it. They are trying to paint Joe. Do you really believe that?


15 posted on 05/14/2008 5:41:49 AM PDT by libbylu
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To: BufordP
State law does not require the sheriff's office to go after outstanding warrants as other states do.

I doubt that state law requires he go after illegal immigrants either, since that's a federal matter. But if we accept for a moment that it is all crime, and if we accept the earlier poster's comment that most of these fugitive felons are probably also illegal immigrants, then wouldn't it make more sense from a resource utilization standpoint to concentrate on the fugitive felons? Especially the dangerous ones? Has the sheriff explained why be believes his pursuit of illegals in general is more important than the pursuit of these felons?

16 posted on 05/14/2008 5:43:25 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: libbylu
I don’t believe it. They are trying to paint Joe. Do you really believe that?

Believe it or not, makes no difference to me. I don't live in Arizona, but if I did I think I'd put finding fugitives above finding your run of the mill, ordinary illegal.

17 posted on 05/14/2008 5:45:22 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

I think it would be easier to fence off South Phoenix and rename it “State Prison”.


18 posted on 05/14/2008 5:46:42 AM PDT by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP!)
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To: Non-Sequitur

So are you part of laraza? Go the msnbc link it explains it very well.

While they do the routine stops for cracked windows, etc, they not only pick up illegal aliens they pick up dudes with outstanding warrants.

Won’t take you a minute to read and is better written than I can.


19 posted on 05/14/2008 5:46:58 AM PDT by libbylu
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To: radar101

Do the La Raza goons push “1” for English when they call in to threaten the political livelihood of the Governor?


20 posted on 05/14/2008 5:51:40 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The GOP death march to the gravesite is underway.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Gov. Janet Napolitano has ordered the state to end an anti-illegal immigration contract...

Is his office not getting paid a certain amount of money for a specific purpose? Seems to me he's trying to meet contractual obligations and getting criticized for it. That and along with his shared responsibility in the serving of outstanding warrants a question remains: What were the rates of outstanding warrants prior to this effort?

Do you really doubt Arpaio is shirking his responsibilities?

21 posted on 05/14/2008 5:52:25 AM PDT by BufordP (Had Mexicans flown planes into the World Trade Center, Jorge Bush would have surrendered.)
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To: ChocChipCookie

[I don’t recall any negative publicity in our local media. She’s a Democrat, so are they. ]

Bruce Jacobs (KFYI-550AM streamed audio at 5AM MST) has been promoting Joe and dumping on Nappy and the Az Rep.


22 posted on 05/14/2008 6:06:28 AM PDT by dbacks (Taglines for sale or rent.)
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To: dbacks

I guess I don’t consider talk radio to be “local media”. But you’re right. She doesn’t have many friends at KFYI.


23 posted on 05/14/2008 6:11:04 AM PDT by ChocChipCookie (<----- Typical White Person)
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To: libbylu
So are you part of laraza?

Nope. Are you in favor of felons walking around the streets unpursued?

While they do the routine stops for cracked windows, etc, they not only pick up illegal aliens they pick up dudes with outstanding warrants.

Apparently not many.

Won’t take you a minute to read and is better written than I can.

I did.

24 posted on 05/14/2008 6:11:36 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: BufordP
Do you really doubt Arpaio is shirking his responsibilities?

No I think that like every other politician he's concentrating on what makes him look good to his constituency.

25 posted on 05/14/2008 6:13:11 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
And of course rising crime rates will make him look good. </sarc>

I have considerable more confidence in Arpaio's ability to do his job as opposed to Gov Napolitano or Phoenix Mayor "Goober" Gordon.

26 posted on 05/14/2008 6:18:53 AM PDT by BufordP (Had Mexicans flown planes into the World Trade Center, Jorge Bush would have surrendered.)
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To: MortMan
Why do you believe that Arpaio's area is falling short with respect to serving felony warrants?

Is it? I realize that Maricopa is heavily populated so it would follow that there would be more unserved warrants there. The article never points that out. But is the number of unserved warrants higher than it has been historically?

27 posted on 05/14/2008 6:23:59 AM PDT by Doohickey (SSN-681; SSN-671; SSN-669; SSN-712)
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To: Kimberly GG

I think this what you were referring to.

Napolitano is a damn liar.


28 posted on 05/14/2008 6:53:29 AM PDT by dynachrome ("Socialism is the feudalism of the future.")
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To: radar101

Thanks for posting this...

I posted the FoxNews article today but it was deleted...

I didnt know this was already posted because..

1. The usual crowd had not been PINGed to it

2. There are no Keywords etc to link to it...

3. So when I looked for another post, I did not find this one.

As an REAL immigrant and nationalized American citizen, I have an interest in the illegal alien invasion..

They have stolen my legal staus and my identfication as an immigrant..


29 posted on 05/14/2008 7:13:11 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: BufordP

There is another factor at work here.
The state budget is short.
Nappy may be killing two birds with one stone here......


30 posted on 05/14/2008 7:52:46 AM PDT by nerdwithamachinegun (All generalizations are wrong.)
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To: radar101

More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says

When you start digging into the numbers the only ones that can be sourced with the feds are the number of American murdered in 2005: 16692
I have seen federal numbers for illegals held in jail ranging from 19.3% to 27% of the federal prison population.

Here's a sampling of USA cities wanted for murder. What you'll see is that in big USA cities like LA or NYC most of the murderers are Hispanic. Unknown are the % of illegals. In smaller cities the FBI will post the nationalities of the murderers. About 25% of the most wanted are illegals wanted for murder. This number agrees with the percentage of illegals incarcerated in federal prisons. +-25%

Pictures of top 10 most wanted in LA. Up until recent stories about crime in LA posted by the LA Times--the pictures included the nationality of the murderers. They were all foreign nationals and mostly Mexican.

Wanted for Murder in New York City.

Chicago wanted for Murder


Philadelphia wanted for murder

San Francisco wanted for Murder


New Orleans wanted for Murder

Pictures of suspects wanted for murder in Washington DC

FBI USA 10 most wanted. (two of 10 are Mexican nationals) Around 40% of the FBI's wanted for murder are Mexican Nationals

There are currently no exact numbers on the number of Americans killed by illegals. Part of the reason is that the government deliberately obscures the number. I talked on the phone with the head of statistics for the US Bureau of Prisons. He said his office wasn't allowed to publish the number of illegal alien murderers. Rather they were forced to put legal and non legal residents in the same category. He said further that most of illegals in the federal prisons were in for drug related charges. Most of the illegals in jail for murder were in the state prisons. I talked to ICE. They put out detailed numbers on illegal child molestors. However, they put out nothing on illegal murderers.

Part of the reason for the silence on the matter is that there is evidence to suggest that most Americans being killed by illegals are black--as is the suggestion in this LA Times Article. Also this article from the LA Times. And here. This makes intuitive sense. We see stories regularly of drug gang killings in Mexico but we don't see those same stories in the USA. The reason we don't see those stories is not because its not happening. Rather we don't see the stories about illegals killing blacks because that kind of story is terribly politically incorrect. The populations being displaced in downtown sanctuary cities especially are American blacks. That means that their criminal elements would be pushed aside by Mexican gangs as well. That's also the story that the wanted for murder posters in all the major cities seems to suggest.

Nevertheless, the pattern of non reporting is starting to break. Discovery Channel has a series called Gangland that mentions ethnic cleasing of blacks by Mexican gangs

Reported Foreign Nationals on Death Row in the U.S.

To look at other USA cities go here http://stlouis.fbi.gov/ and replace stlouis with the city you want.

All that said the true number of criminal aliens is far higher than is revealed by criminal aliens in prisons. Most are simply waived through the courts.DHS Secretary Chertoff, has been quoted as warning that two million people in this country illegally have committed serious crimes. If you check the links you'll notice that its McCain who cites Chertoff. See also here and here Here is more info from Judicial Watch.

However the number of illegals on death row is far lower.


31 posted on 05/14/2008 8:18:06 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: ckilmer

As a former Law Enforcement Officer, I knew this.
I also knew that Police Administrators are PC, and will not discuss this.


32 posted on 05/14/2008 9:34:59 AM PDT by radar101
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To: radar101

the reason for this is that the elites want a NAU against the wishes of the populace. part of that involves the free flow of workers across the borders. never mind that the USA doesn’t really need low skilled marginally trainable people heavily seeded with criminals. The idea works for the elites on both sides of the political isle because the middle class taxpayer pays the bills. the elite dems get cheap votes and elite pubs get cheap labor.


33 posted on 05/14/2008 9:54:40 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


34 posted on 05/14/2008 10:04:23 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: radar101
"According to the Arizona Department of Public Safety, there are about 59,000 outstanding, unserved felony warrants in the state. The majority of those are in Maricopa County."

Ninety percent of which are illegal aliens no doubt. Stop the flood of illegals and the felony warrants will take care of themselves. This is just one more ploy by the Dhimmirat Governor to block any kind of immigration law enforcement.

35 posted on 05/14/2008 10:06:40 AM PDT by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: ontap

I agree.


36 posted on 05/14/2008 10:25:05 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: radar101
Arpaio for governor.
37 posted on 05/14/2008 11:24:48 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (We have people in power with desire for evil.)
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To: gubamyster

Bttt!


38 posted on 05/14/2008 6:01:37 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: radar101

Saw a piece last week on the History Channel about Sheriff Joe’s prison....great story!


39 posted on 05/14/2008 6:03:06 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: BufordP
I have considerable more confidence in Arpaio's ability to do his job as opposed to Gov Napolitano or Phoenix Mayor "Goober" Gordon.

Me too! I hope this ends Napolitano's and Gordon's political careers and PDQ.

40 posted on 05/14/2008 6:20:49 PM PDT by Sal (Biofuels: using your tax money to starve the 3rd world to death.)
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To: albie

I thought the gov. and sheriff were friends, and he even endorsed her in the last election if I recall.


41 posted on 05/15/2008 8:35:43 PM PDT by hsmomx3 (GO STEELERS!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: MARTIAL MONK
Scottsdale or Chandler would be better to fence off and renamed as Prisons. For anyone to say bad upon South Phoenix apparently has never walked a mile or a block in South Phoenix.
42 posted on 08/14/2008 1:42:53 PM PDT by deportall
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