Posted on 05/14/2008 4:29:09 PM PDT by blam
Another one.Meh... don't get her ZOTTED. DU'ers sure. We deal with them all the time. Arguing with real live Chinese folks on FR is a pretty rare opportunity.
The Tibetan view of Tibetan-Manchu relations is that:"The Manchu, or Qing, Empire became Tibet's overlord in 1720 when it installed the Seventh Dalai Lama, but this relationship was not rigorously defined and the Manchu made no effort to absorb Tibet as a province. Tibetans paid no taxes to the Manchu, as Mongolia, which is independent today, did. Tibet also maintained its legal and administrative systems with its own officials, while Chinese and Manchu authorities directly ruled Mongolia. As early as 1792, the Manchu emperor Qianlong knew that the Dalai Lama and his ministers were "able to do whatever they wished in the administration of Tibetan affairs, ignoring . . . the incompetent [Manchu] officials" who were theoretically supposed to govern Tibet. This nebulous relationship grew even more unclear throughout the nineteenth century because of threats the Manchu faced everywhere."[102]
No it's not. I have gotten half a dozen zotted over the years and other ChiCom troll hunters have done even better. This one just isn't a professional.
Righto.
Carry on!
It would be tiring to take it point by point but I will if you want to. It's all right there. Such as...I saw that. Again, it's semantic games. Think of it this way. The southern slave states ignored/subverted the northern government on various occasions. Does that mean they *weren't part* of the US? So yes, Tibet was a vassal of China. They did what they wanted, sure. But they were still technically part of China. So we're playing semantic games.
No it's not. I have gotten half a dozen zotted over the years and other ChiCom troll hunters have done even better. This one just isn't a professional.LOL... Well let me keep this one. It's new to me.
Righto.Thanks ;)Carry on!
No they were not technically part of China. Your analogy of the southern states is way off base. Calling India a part of Britain would be closer. But still overreaching.
you send this WEB,is overdue.
actually,more west media make all photo,
http://shehui.daqi.com/bbs/00/1907366.html
you can see the web about west media false reprot!
and they say sorry for it!
Yes you have.
It’s all yours. I don’t decide who goes and I don’t hit abuse. All I ever do is draw them out until the mods can’t stand them anymore.
hebe, you need to overthrow your evil communist government!! Time for a real revolution. PRC party hacks need to go.
Thank you. I do my best. ; )
It’s all yours. I don’t decide who goes and I don’t hit abuse. All I ever do is draw them out until the mods can’t stand them anymore.Thanks.
:)
“unusual statements are partly due to different cultural poetics”
I’ve notice that too - some of it reminds me of when I used to watch “Kung Fu” after classes everyday. “Grasshopper - the straw bends but does not break in the heavy rain...”. It is very interesting to see the thoughts and images, but the language difficulties make it tough. Still, I guess in my naive mind I had hoped that there would be more of the youths like we saw in Tinnamen Square.
Thanks for your insights.
i love chinese forever!!!
chinese is friendly .
i am very luck born and live in chinese!
if you go here ,you can feel it!
所有的历史文物都可以证明:曾经西藏就是中国的. 在拉萨市城中磨盘山上的关帝庙中 snip...Okay, I know your argument(please don't cut and paste though, I want to know what *you* think).
Think of the following things. Is the government of China now, the same as notoriously corrupt government of the emperor? Just because the likes of Kai-shek were willing to conquer china why should the PRC, which is supposed to be much more moral and uplifting, take over Tibet?
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