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Documents: Chairman Mao proposed sending 10 million Chinese women to US
ABS-CBN/Agence France-Presse ^ | February 13, 2008

Posted on 05/14/2008 5:28:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

WASHINGTON - Chinese leader Mao Zedong proposed sending 10 million Chinese women to the United States, in talks with top envoy Henry Kissinger in 1973, according to documents released Tuesday.

The powerful chairman of the Chinese Communist Party said he believed such emigration could kickstart bilateral trade but could also "harm" the United States with a population explosion similar to China, according to documents released Tuesday by the State Department on US-China ties between 1973 to 1976.

In a long conversation that stretched way past midnight at Mao's residence on February 17, 1973, the cigar-chomping Chinese leader referred to the dismal trade between the two countries, saying China was a "very poor country" and "what we have in excess is women."

He first suggested sending "thousands" of women but as an afterthought proposed "10 million," drawing laughter at the meeting, also attended by Chinese premier Zhou Enlai.

Kissinger, who was President Richard Nixon's national security advisor at that time, told Mao that the United States had no "quotas" or "tariffs" for Chinese women, drawing more laughter.

Kissinger then tried to highlight to Mao the threat posed by the Soviet Union and other global concerns as he moved to lay the groundwork for restoring diplomatic ties a year after Nixon's historic visit to China.

But Mao dragged the talks back to the topic of Chinese women.

"Let them go to your place. They will create disasters. That way you can lessen our burdens," Mao said.

"Do you want our Chinese women? We can give you ten million," he said.

Kissinger noted that Mao was "improving his offer."

Mao continued, "By doing so we can let them flood your country with disaster and therefore impair your interests. In our country we have too many women, and they have a way of doing things.

"They give birth to children and our children are too many."

A shrewd diplomat, Kissinger seemed to turn the tables on Mao, replying, "It is such a novel proposition, we will have to study it."

The two leaders then spoke briefly about the threat posed by the Soviet Union, with Mao saying he hoped Moscow would attack China and be defeated.

But Mao again lamented, "We have so many women in our country that don'’t know how to fight.

The assistant Chinese foreign minister, Wang Haijung, who was at the meeting, then cautioned Mao that if the minutes of the conversation were made public, "it would incur the public wrath."

Kissinger agreed with Mao that the minutes be scrapped.

But when Kissinger joked that he would raise the issue at his next press conference, Mao said, "I'’m not afraid of anything.

"Anyway, God has sent me an invitation," said the Chinese leader, who coughed badly during the talks.

Mao died in September 1976. US-China diplomatic relations were restored in 1979.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: china; communism; communists; gender; immigration; kissinger; maozedong; nixon
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What a strange idea...
1 posted on 05/14/2008 5:28:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bet they wish they had 10 million extra women now.


2 posted on 05/14/2008 5:30:08 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yep, strange idea... yet here we have 10 million Mexican woman AND 10 million Mexican men (give or take).


3 posted on 05/14/2008 5:30:42 PM PDT by C210N (The television has mounted the most serious assault on Republicanism since Das Kapital.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
But Mao dragged the talks back to the topic of Chinese women.
"Let them go to your place. They will create disasters. That way you can lessen our burdens," Mao said.

Insert Asian women and driving jokes here...

4 posted on 05/14/2008 5:31:20 PM PDT by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Our roads are dangerous enough!


5 posted on 05/14/2008 5:31:39 PM PDT by Holicheese (Hillary deserves the CMoH for her time in Tuzla!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You know the FR rules.

`Spose to have pics now of the kind(s) of Chinese women who would be very acceptable in the US under Mao's plan if it were put into play today.

6 posted on 05/14/2008 5:33:11 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Your Free To Vote 4 McCain. I Won't. I Don't Want To Hear Your Gripes Thru His 4 Years of RINO-ism!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
[Mao] believed such emigration could ..."harm" the United States with a population explosion similar to China,

No need, Mao. Our own open Southern border is doing the trick.

7 posted on 05/14/2008 5:33:33 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: AmericanInTokyo
If a fellow FReeper would learn me to post photos, I’d give ya more than you could handle (all completely tasteful & refined, of course)
8 posted on 05/14/2008 5:35:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only Hillary or Obama can!)
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To: C210N

I’d say more like 15 million women and 25 million men.


9 posted on 05/14/2008 5:36:07 PM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: AmericanInTokyo

We’d of course have to have a selection committee. There’d be no shortage of volunteers, I’d imagine.


10 posted on 05/14/2008 5:36:29 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I guess the kudzu thing was a trial balloon.


11 posted on 05/14/2008 5:42:54 PM PDT by littlehouse36 (Thou shalt not teach theory as science!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Mao didn't like women did he? Gay China
12 posted on 05/14/2008 5:43:07 PM PDT by redstateconfidential (If you are the smartest person in the room,you are hanging out with the wrong people.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo; 2ndDivisionVet

13 posted on 05/14/2008 5:43:55 PM PDT by Enterprise ((Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!))
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To: TheWasteLand

Yep. With 133:100 new birth male/female ratio, there might be a problem in a few years. Actually, the problem is already cropping up as millions of female newborns were allowed to die because of one child per couple policy and the value of having a male heir.


14 posted on 05/14/2008 5:43:58 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In 1979, Deng Xiaoping arrived here on an official visit. China was emerging from the Cultural Revolution, and poised to embark on the capitalist road. When President Carter sat down with Mr. Deng, he told him he was concerned over the right of the Chinese people to emigrate.

The Jackson-Vanik amendment, Mr. Carter said, prohibited granting most favored nation trade status to regimes that did not allow their people to emigrate.

“Well, Mr. President,” Deng cheerfully replied, “Just how many Chinese do you want? Ten million. Twenty million. Thirty million?”

Deng’s answer stopped Carter cold. In a few words, the Chinese leader had driven home a point Mr. Carter seemed not to have grasped: Hundreds of millions of people would emigrate to America in a eyelash, far more than we could take in, far more than our existing population of 270 million, if we threw open our borders.

http://www.buchanan.org/pa-00-0118-immigration.html


15 posted on 05/14/2008 5:45:55 PM PDT by donna ("Don't let the sound of your own wheels drive you crazy.")
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To: Mr. Mojo
Let me face the danger!


16 posted on 05/14/2008 5:46:25 PM PDT by AndrewB
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To: Enterprise

This isn’t supposed to be a sex thread. Why don’t you keep this private.


17 posted on 05/14/2008 5:47:47 PM PDT by donna ("Don't let the sound of your own wheels drive you crazy.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Uh oh. I fear I have unleashed a hornet’s nest now on FR. ;-)


18 posted on 05/14/2008 5:48:24 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Your Free To Vote 4 McCain. I Won't. I Don't Want To Hear Your Gripes Thru His 4 Years of RINO-ism!)
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To: donna

It’s about Chinese women. You didn’t read the title?


19 posted on 05/14/2008 5:49:35 PM PDT by Enterprise ((Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!))
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To: Enterprise

#4 is innocent of all charges!!!I wonder if she needs a foster home?


20 posted on 05/14/2008 5:55:29 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (With McCain around we can proudly proclaim, WE ARE SO SCREWED)
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To: crazyhorse691

I bet those 10 million women would have found “sponsors” pretty fast! BTW, I’m just waiting for someone cleverer than me to time this thread in with the recent polygamy stories.


21 posted on 05/14/2008 6:03:27 PM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Mao? Hmmm. Name rings a bell. Wasn't he to dude who engineered those revolutions, purges, great leaps and so on that resulted in 40,000,000 deaths?

Who know he had such a wacky sense of humor?

22 posted on 05/14/2008 6:04:45 PM PDT by don-o (Free Lazamataz!)
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To: crazyhorse691

Such a dear sweet child. I have little doubt that if she desired, she could find a loving, caring, compassionate home in America.


23 posted on 05/14/2008 6:06:01 PM PDT by Enterprise ((Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!))
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To: Enterprise

The one in the upper-left (with the purple lingerie) doesn’t look Chinese to me, but no complaints here — she’s the fairest of the bunch.


24 posted on 05/14/2008 6:06:04 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

I think you are right. I posted the picture because on Google the partial title was “Absolutely beautiful Chinese...” After you posted, I went to the site and she is wearing “Absolutely beautiful Chinese jacquard strapless basque with lace-up back, slimming waist and detachable garters.” Sorry, my bad.


25 posted on 05/14/2008 6:09:53 PM PDT by Enterprise ((Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!))
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To: Enterprise
It’s about Chinese women. You didn’t read the title?

Perhaps you didn't realize that it's about China's overpopulation problem and not about feminism. China had lot's of schemes to solve the problem:

"The phrase one child policy is commonly used in English to refer to the population control policy (or Planned Birth policy) of the People's Republic of China (PRC). The Chinese government introduced the policy in 1979..."

26 posted on 05/14/2008 6:12:31 PM PDT by donna ("Don't let the sound of your own wheels drive you crazy.")
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To: Mr. Mojo

You are right...she is wearing purple...I somehow missed that the first time.


27 posted on 05/14/2008 6:15:36 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (With McCain around we can proudly proclaim, WE ARE SO SCREWED)
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To: crazyhorse691

Kissinger and Nixon didn’t know they had “straightlegs” in China, or they maybe would have accepted the deal.


28 posted on 05/14/2008 6:20:43 PM PDT by mathurine
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To: donna
"Perhaps you didn't realize that it's about China's overpopulation problem and not about feminism.

No, it isn't about China's overpopulation. It's about Chairman Mao offering to sell 10 million women to the United States. And evidently, Chairman Mao didn't have a very high opinion of China's women.

"Let them go to your place. They will create disasters. That way you can lessen our burdens," Mao said.

29 posted on 05/14/2008 6:21:34 PM PDT by Enterprise ((Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!))
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To: donna
None of them are naked. Guys like seeing healthy young women, given any excuse.

Case in point:


30 posted on 05/14/2008 6:33:49 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." — George Orwell)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not to disparage the prowess of FR’s men, but in my opinion some of you have really strange tastes when it comes Chinese women.


31 posted on 05/14/2008 6:38:49 PM PDT by cmdjing
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To: AmericanInTokyo
The only false news
32 posted on 05/14/2008 6:43:26 PM PDT by huanghuaqiang (huanghuaqiang)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Some may even believe that the news


33 posted on 05/14/2008 6:43:29 PM PDT by huanghuaqiang (huanghuaqiang)
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To: donna
呵呵,应该是个假新闻了
34 posted on 05/14/2008 6:43:38 PM PDT by huanghuaqiang (huanghuaqiang)
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To: huanghuaqiang

What’s up, Chi-newb? Let’s make a deal: You send us your young fair maidens and we’ll send your our workers “willing to do the jobs Americans won’t.”


35 posted on 05/14/2008 6:49:18 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: cmdjing

36 posted on 05/14/2008 6:52:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only Hillary or Obama can!)
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To: Enterprise

I don’t think any of those women would have been included in the 10,000,000.


37 posted on 05/14/2008 6:52:34 PM PDT by Michael.SF.
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To: huanghuaqiang
真相
38 posted on 05/14/2008 6:57:30 PM PDT by donna ("Don't let the sound of your own wheels drive you crazy.")
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To: PapaBear3625

I know that’s all you think about.


39 posted on 05/14/2008 6:59:20 PM PDT by donna ("Don't let the sound of your own wheels drive you crazy.")
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To: Enterprise

Neither do you.


40 posted on 05/14/2008 7:00:13 PM PDT by donna ("Don't let the sound of your own wheels drive you crazy.")
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To: TheWasteLand

They choose to kill and do kill most female babies, so they got their wish and have less women.
I guess the young men have to warm up to homosexuality.


41 posted on 05/14/2008 7:01:20 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Michael.SF.
"I don’t think any of those women would have been included in the 10,000,000."

Rofl! Maybe she would have sent instead.


42 posted on 05/14/2008 7:06:52 PM PDT by Enterprise ((Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!))
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To: donna
"Neither do you."

I do too! Neener neener neener!

43 posted on 05/14/2008 7:09:05 PM PDT by Enterprise ((Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!))
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To: donna; All

Related articles:

http://www.useless-knowledge.com/1234/new/article056.html

http://www.military.com/NewContent/0,13190,Defensewatch_012104_Foreign,00.html


44 posted on 05/14/2008 7:10:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only Hillary or Obama can!)
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To: Michael.SF.

You are SOOO right! When I visited China after the Cultural Revolution, the women were pretty sad sacks; Mao suits and poor nutrition (food ration coupons were still required in 1979) didn’t help. Their antagonistic attitudes (courtesy of Communist indoctrination) didn’t win many of us over either.

Right after the visit to China, I went to Hong Kong; the young ladies there were definitely a sight for sore eyes.

Now that a lot of the Chinese gals have picked up on Western fashion and style, they look a heck of a lot better.


45 posted on 05/14/2008 7:19:00 PM PDT by 12Gauge687 (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

That’s 3, where are the other 9,999,997?


47 posted on 05/14/2008 7:36:50 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (You're gonna cry 96 Tears on my Pillow!)
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To: Enterprise
Rofl! Maybe she would have sent instead.

They're sending a lot of these today under the family unification policy. Chinese seniors go from ten bucks a month at retirement (albeit at age 55) in China to perhaps a thousand dollars in SSI, welfare and Medicaid stateside. What a deal, huh?

48 posted on 05/14/2008 7:40:17 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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49 posted on 05/14/2008 7:42:17 PM PDT by balls
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

50 posted on 05/14/2008 7:42:17 PM PDT by balls
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