Mark Levin to GOP candidates: Cut ties with McCain and the RNC and run as conservatives

Hot Air ^ | May 15, 2008 | Allahpundit

[rightwingintelligentsia]

It won’t do any good. At this point, who would believe them?

Look on the bright side: It only took six years to get from the Watergate wipeout to Reagan. What could go wrong?

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[rightwingintelligentsia]

TGO Ping.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

Well, they're 0-for-3 thus far this electoral season, trying it the other way... ;)

[Coldwater Creek]

This is a different world that we live in to day. I’m afraid of terrorism on our soil more than any other issue.

As much as, I despise “Ace”, I believe that he is our best bet to at least keep us safe. otherwise, nothing else will matter.

[Virginia Ridgerunner]

Damn straight! The GOP leadership is clueless about how they got themselves into this mess, and think that they can keep GOP seats by acting more like Democrats.

[commonguymd]

The GOP has lusted to be the minority party ever since it became apparent they were inept as the majority party. They are doing a remarkable job of achieving their goals.

[CalvaryJohn]

I’ve been waiting for someone to say this. Rush and Sean need to follow Mark’s lead here. The Repukes deserve neither my respect nor my vote.

[johnthebaptistmoore]

Conservatives also truly need to teach the general public about what went on during the entire Carter Presidency, and conservative seriously need to ask if they seriously want a repeat of all of that?

[WorkerbeeCitizen]

I think as conservatives, we should sever ties with the present two system altogether and focus on getting conservatives elected at the state and local level.

However, if the GOP wants the conservative vote, they will have to cut liberalism loose, including McCain and all RINO’s.

[Sybeck1]

After the GOP went “GREEN” on their website, I'm wondering why James Inhofe hasn't gone independent?

[Theodore R.]

Conservatives “may teach” the general public, but the public may be incapable of “learning”. It is determined to put Oprah’s Obama in the White House, and I don’t think we can do a thing about it. The surprise of this season has come and gone — the rise and fall of HRC. The people are not capable of two surprises in one election cycle.

[David Isaac]

“Conservatives also truly need to teach the general public about what went on during the entire Carter Presidency, and conservative seriously need to ask if they seriously want a repeat of all of that?”

It will have to be the conservatives who teach them, because it certainly will not be Bush, McCain, or most of the GOP legislative “leadership”

[YellowRoseofTx]

I heard the other day that one of these seats was held by a RINO Repub. and the voters were fed up with him and voted in the most conservative dim running. I don’t remember which state it was though.

[tips up]

Rush made this same point yesterday.

Every time the RNC asks you for money, remind them that you will support a party of Reagan conservatism and not the party of Rockefeller/McCain/Country club Republicans.

[alice_in_bubbaland]

“Every time the RNC asks you for money, remind them that you will support a party of Reagan conservatism”

I've been doing that all week, in fact for the past year. The RNC has really ramped up their fund raising efforts! I've received two mailers and two phone calls this week alone. I told the person on the other end that McCain was crap and hung up.

[TomGuy]

It only took six years to get from the Watergate wipeout to Reagan

That was primarily because Carter turned out to be such a disaster, as president.

Unless one of the Dems gets elected and turns out to be as bad as Carter, don't expect to see a new Reagan any time soon.

If the Pubbie wins, don't expect to see a rush to vote in a new Pubbie if this one turns out to be as bad as Carter.



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It would seem, to usher in a new Reagan, you need Obama (Clinton would, like hubby, be more centrist than leftist) and you would need Obama to mess of on a grand scale.

The only other scenario might be the Pubbie nominating a conservative (doubtful -- he will stick with a more moderate 'friend') and Providence steps in to move the VP to the Presidency.

[mo]

IMHO, would’nt matter. In my mind, I keep coming back to what happened to Tom Delay.....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1802383/posts

Washington is so jammed with parasites looking for a teat...that ANY organized opposition-IOW any Conservatives-will be run out of town . Period. This, folks, is a far BIGGER problem than just one with the Republican leadership.

[TomGuy]

The GOP leadership is clueless about how they got themselves into this mess, and think that they can keep GOP seats by acting more like Democrats.

Surely, you jest.

[Don't call me Shirley.]

[Thread of interest: GOP Stunned By Loss in Mississippi]

[commonguymd]

And oh boy are the folks at the RNC relentless. I can’t get them to stop calling no matter what.

[TomGuy]

The GOP has lusted to be the minority party ever since it became apparent they were inept as the majority party. They are doing a remarkable job of achieving their goals.

One bright spot:

With all those Jorge Boosh Pesos the GOP/RNC/McCain have received during the last 2 years, John 'I will mandate green' McCain can recycle them to help pay for his campaign. That would probably bring in a couple $million.

[TomGuy]

Conservatives also truly need to teach the general public about what went on during the entire Carter Presidency, and conservative seriously need to ask if they seriously want a repeat of all of that?

If you take a realistic look at what is going on, we are closer to the Carter years (under a Pubbie) that you might want to accept.

Many food items are have experienced double-digit price increases in the last 6 months. [Government figures hide this from their 'official' figures and are telling us inflation is only about 0.02%. But anyone who grocery shops on a regular basis can tell you that price increases are massively higher than the government figures try to suggest.]

Fuel prices have nearly doubled just in the last year. Gas is now in the $4.00 range in some area. [Prices were in the $2.00 range a year ago. That is a near 100% increase, which, again, the government reports try to hide in their 'official' figures, during the last year, and a 300% increase in the last 6 years.]

Source: gasbuddy.com

Fuel price increases are also affecting other goods and services, and utility bills will see increases, as well.

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So far, interest rates are excessively low, however. During the Carter era, they were also in the double digit range.

There is a problem with very low interest rates. Many retirees depend on interest from savings to supplement their retirement income. With low interest rates, they are not receiving the income they once had. Their expenses are higher and their income is lower.

Another aspect that reared its ugly head in the mid 70s (pre-Carter) and which is showing some signs on reoccurring is 'shortages'. At that time, there were shortages of gasoline, paper, sugar, antifreeze, etc. Just a couple of weeks ago, we saw headlines of the world-wide rice shortage. [Expect more 'shortages' in the coming months. They are an effective was for businesses to get to raise prices.]

[iopscusa]

How about more analysis than just blaming the R's? Or do you buy into the Great 2008 Depression doom & gloom?
The Economy has been swimming along just fine after 9/11 and the Clinton Depression of 2000-2001 and would have continued in the same direction except for the interference of idiot Politicians, primarily Demotards. Notice what has happened after we got a D majority in Congress? The real cause of the Housing Bubble also originates primarily from the Leftist attack on Lending standards in the 90’s...

[iopscusa]

TomGuy, another thing you got wrong pertains to gas prices. Even @ $4/gallon, the adjusted price of gas is quite a bit less than during Carter’s fiasco! IMO, you need to take a look at some Economic Sites before you start posting the Doom & Gloom stuff.
Check out this site: http://mjperry.blogspot.com/
Great info on Food and Gas prices as compared to 1979 and today.

[indylindy]

Those running the GOP and the McCain campaign must be the same brain addled dopes that were behind the stunning victories of their previous frontrunner, Rooty. /s

Masters of the Universe that can concoct a sure defeat by pimping up their RINOs.

Make that 0-for-4, Levin is right but probably too late.

Did Howard Dean hire these folks for the GOP?

[KC_Conspirator]

McCain is not the reason they are losing these elections.

Thats fact.

The party leadership which is rudderless, is to blame, and that includes the WH.

[TomGuy]

Notice what has happened after we got a D majority in Congress?

The Dems have had a majority in the house for about 1.5 years now. The Pubbies had a majority for 12 years.

Yet, you blame the Dems for all the current woes. You accuse them of not solving the energy problem in their 1.5 years, while the Pubbies failed to do much about it during their 12 years.

Get your head out of the kool-aid and look at the real situation. Neither party has shown themselves to be much more than a herd of porkers feeding at the trough of open-checkbook spending on pork barrel projects.

If you look at that fuel price chart, you will notice that gas neared $3.00 in mid to late 2005. That was a year before the Dems won the House. That was a near-50% increase over mid-2004 when the Pubbies still controlled the House.

[BlackbirdSST]

This is a different world that we live in to day. I’m afraid of terrorism on our soil more than any other issue. As much as, I despise “Ace”, I believe that he is our best bet to at least keep us safe. otherwise, nothing else will matter.

There is NO GWOT with open borders. It does NOT exist, just the rhetoric. By all means, vote for the most vocal open borders nutcase amongst US. Would you vote for Dane? Curious? Blackbird.

[TomGuy]

the Doom & Gloom stuff.

Perception is reality. In November, voters are going to go into the booths.

• If they perceive that they have lesser purchasing power in their wallets, they will vote for change.
  
  
• If they perceive that they have sufficient purchasing power in the wallets, they will vote for the status quo.

$4.00/gal gasoline and 20-30% food inflation, with substantial utility bill increases, etc., are probably going to be perceived as 'lesser' rather than 'greater' purchasing power.

That math adds up to more Republican losses in the House, the Senate, and quite probably, the White House.

So, go ahead and try to tell the voters that $4.00 gas and 20-30% food increases aren't really bad. After all, things were worse during the depression -- adjusted; things were worse under Carter -- adjusted [note how many loyal Pubbies ignore that fuel/food/commodity prices initially skyrocketed under Nixon-Ford, but it is easier to blame all that on Carter. Just like now, they find it easier to blame it on the Dems who have controlled the House 1.5 years, but excuse the Pubbies who had control of the House for 12 years].

[Fudd Fan]

I’ve been waiting for someone to say this. Rush and Sean need to follow Mark’s lead here.

Did you hear Sean's opening monologue on Wednesday (May 14)? He was on fire about the Republicans in general straying far from their party principles. It was fantastic.

[Fudd Fan]

The Great One *PING*

[Fudd Fan]

That’s been the Libertarian plan. It hasn’t worked too well for them.

[Biggirl]

Tell me about it. I would get calls from the RNC or some other RNC related group about a certain canidate’s campain and often I have to do a lot of hanging up. They have turned me off.

[CAluvdubya]

IMHO, would’nt matter. In my mind, I keep coming back to what happened to Tom Delay.....

And in the House, they managed the same tactic w/ John Doolittle....a total Conservative and in Delay's close group.

[Pravious]

“The party leadership which is rudderless, is to blame, and that includes the WH.”

I agree. I think that Bush should have let Dick Cheney retire (since he’s done nothing but sit in an undisclosed location for four years ANYWAY) and chosen someone for his Vice President with a mind towards grooming that person for the Presidency. Then we would have had a front runner off-the-bat (with name recognition) who we could have gotten behind in the primaries.

[Fox_Mulder77]

I say voters need to cut ties with McCain and GOP.

[Unrepentant VN Vet]

Not only is it a failed tactic, but I have to point out that (at least AFAIK or have heard around here) the traitorcrats are outspending the Pubby in every campaign by a factor of four or five to one. (Plus having most of the MSM at their immediate beck and call to do freebee hit pieces that might otherwise get FEC attention....like next century /sarc/.)

The bast***s are flat buying these elections, and if they can’t buy/advertise their way to victory, I’d bet there’s a horse platoon of lawyers on call to shyster the election results.

[Biggirl]

I sense Rush is slowly coming around to this since he has been moody for the last two broadcast days. Even his thread has thined out a little bit during these past two days.

[Tennessee Nana]

Thanks for the PINGy, Fuddy...

“Why compromise your principles for what ??? For nothing”

The Great One is talking sense and wisdom as usual..

McCain will pull down with him any of the GOP candidates who align themselves with him this election cycle..

GOP conservatives running for office must stand out and away from the liberals and moderates...

And the GOP conservative voters must not settle for 2nd or 3rd best..

Someone recently said...

If you vote for someone just to fill in a blank, the candidate will think you agree with his philosophy..

He will get a message that he can go ahead and do whatever he wants to when he gets to Wahington or your state capital...

but if there are several GOP voters who just leave the ballot blank at his spot, he will know it was a vote against him.. and MIGHT bother to find out why..

Dont stay home..

Go to the polls and vote further down the ballot...

For conservatives that you know and trust to do the right thing...

And if there is nobody at all on the ballot to vote for ???

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Your county and state is in bad trouble...

[Fox_Mulder77]

“The party leadership which is rudderless, is to blame, and that includes the WH.”

I agree. I think that Bush should have let Dick Cheney retire (since he’s done nothing but sit in an undisclosed location for four years ANYWAY) and chosen someone for his Vice President with a mind towards grooming that person for the Presidency. Then we would have had a front runner off-the-bat (with name recognition) who we could have gotten behind in the primaries.

I think that quote about lack of leadership coming out of the WH is referring to the administrations policy positions that tore down conservatism, and lacked direction.

[WorkerbeeCitizen]

I know.
When we try to change the party and actually get a candidate we want, the party gives us McCain - its very frustrating.

[goodnesswins]

I believe Rush and Levin are close friends.....and actually, I believe they play “good cop, bad cop” on conservative talk radio....

[Donald Rumsfeld Fan]

Conservatives also truly need to teach the general public about what went on during the entire Carter Presidency, and conservative seriously need to ask if they seriously want a repeat of all of that?

Carter gave us Reagan.

No pain no gain.

[Bommer]

Yet, you blame the Dems for all the current woes. You accuse them of not solving the energy problem in their 1.5 years, while the Pubbies failed to do much about it during their 12 years.

Wrong! It was Clinton that put the restriction on ANWAR. It was Bush that wanted to drill there and the Republicans putting up for a vote, but it was filibustered. Pelosi said that if she was out in charge they would have a solution to our energy needs, so sorry, but they are 100% responsible for this fix we are in. Just that the Republi-Can't will never call them to the carpet!

[TomGuy]

It was Bush that wanted to drill there and the Republicans putting up for a vote, but it was filibustered.

Waaaaaaa!

That seems to be all the Pubbies can do -- whine and cry about the mean ole Dems out-snookering them. If the Pubbies had backbones, they would stand up and get stuff done. The Dems don't seem to have too much of a problem doing it when they are in the majority.

[Bommer]

What part of a filibuster do you not seem to understand?

[wildandcrazyrussian]

So if I understand this, according to the government, the following is a chart of the inflation rate, after being "adjusted for inflation":

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-1|
-2|

[indylindy]

BTTT, I genuinely apologize if I ever doubted you.

You are so on lately.

Please accept my apologies.

[TomGuy]

What part of a filibuster do you not seem to understand?

Filibuster? BS.

You forget that Frist (R) went to the 'gentle' filibusters -- they got 2 hours a day, then they could rest, and continue at a future date.

Had Frist (R) the backbone, he would have FORCED them to the old fashioned filibuster -- You want it? you talk. When you finish, we vote.

Alas, he didn't. So the 'filibuster' has become a joke.

[Bommer]

Your right it has! I was pissed at first, but now since Republicans are a minority, the filibuster as it is, is still in place. Try going after the Democraps that set up this policy!

[TomGuy]

Try going after the Democraps that set up this policy!

Noooooo.

Lott (R) (IIRC) set this up when the Pubbies won in 2000 with Daschle (D).