Posted on 05/15/2008 7:37:18 AM PDT by ktime
Edited on 05/15/2008 8:01:29 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
While listening to McCain's policy speech, Sen. McCain incredibly stated the following regarding illegal immigration. I repeat this is not a joke.
Excerpt of speech:
MODERATOR ADDITION - CRITICAL CONTEXT WAS MISSING FROM THIS POST. CONTEXT HAS BEEN ADDED IN ITALICS. POSTER'S ORIGINAL TEXT WILL RESUME AFTER THE ITALICS.
So, what I want to do today is take a little time to describe what I would hope to have achieved at the end of my first term as President. I cannot guarantee I will have achieved these things. I am presumptuous enough to think I would be a good President, but not so much that I believe I can govern by command. Should I forget that, Congress will, of course, hasten to remind me. The following are conditions I intend to achieve. And toward that end, I will focus all the powers of the office; every skill and strength I possess; and seize every opportunity to work with members of Congress who put the national interest ahead of partisanship, and any country in the world that shares our hopes for a more peaceful and prosperous world.
By January 2013,END MODERATOR ADDITION
"Border state governors have certified and the American people recognize that after tremendous improvements to border security infrastructure and increases in the border patrol, and vigorous prosecution of companies that employ illegal aliens, our southern border is now secure.
Illegal immigrants who broke our laws after they came here have been arrested and deported.
Illegal immigration has been finally brought under control, and the American people accepted the practical necessity to institute a temporary worker program and deal humanely with the millions of immigrants who have been in this country illegally."[1]
These statements are contrary to reality.
1) The border is not secure as the virtual and 700 mile fence have yet to be built.
2) Illegal immigrants have not been arrest and deported, unless 20 million people disappeared recently.
3) Current illegal immigration continues unabated today.
4) The US public is overwhelming against amnesty.
Source: JOHN MCCAIN IN COLUMBUS, OHIO 15 MAY 2008
ummmm.....he’s talking about what he envisions the “future” to be, not the current situation.
I thought it would be SECURE January 22nd. Guess I’m behind...
Last damn straw, I'm going to vote for the Democrat!
He was talking about what will be done by the end of his presidency.
You had to hear it from the beginning. He was delivering his hoped-for speech of 2013.
Maybe I was a little too quick, as he state he wishes to accomplish this by the end of his first term.
However he leaves an escape hatch.
“I cannot guarantee I will have achieved these things.”
He’s talking about 2013, at the end of his term.
he’s not talking about today.
He’s talking about his vision.
The Democrats do guarantee 24/7 lawnboys (keep those hedges trimmed) and other services of a more intimate nature ~
our southern border is now secure.
and I will not Vote for John MCCain.....
if this is the best that the Republican Party can come up with??
screw it.
I am not voting this November.........
yes... I want the democrats to win......
yes....this is a choice between 3 Crap sandwiches...
so i am skipping lunch.
Get your facts straight before posting please. And no, I don’t support McCain, I just don’t like the utterly misrepresentative way you posted this. You did this to bait people, and that makes you a disruptor, Mr. one-monther.
That's his "second term" accomplishment speech. Tune in tomorrow.
You should ask the mods to change your title. It is misleading. You obviously did not read or listen to the whole speech.
“....he’s talking about what he envisions the “future” to be, not the current situation.”
That was my first thought as I read this. I was thinking perhaps he’d grabbed the wrong sheathe of prewritten speeches or the likes thereof, but regardless something into the future.
Holding that door open to all those illegals makes me think of McCain as an effective La Raza doorstop.
I wasn’t giving an opinion on his speech, just stating the OP was wrong on what McCain actually said.
If you repeat a lie enough....
Wishful thinking on McCain’s part.
I wanted to blow chunks everytime I heard his campaign called “The Straight Talk Express”.
That name is such a joke and if Juan can’t see that he is far too stupid to be President.
I guess I could look at it another way though.
It must have taken mighty big ba&ls to publicly appear under such a banner.
Never mind that free pass on the whole illegal border crossing thing...
‘rat parsing and propaganda??
McCain has done enough to screw himself with his global warming BS. Why don’t you ax the mods to pull this thread since you jumped the gun on it?
Ping.
I suggest you shape up. Your headline is misleading.
We added the proper context. We want to leave it up as an example of the importance of context and not taking partial quotes at their face value. Kudos to all who pointed this out.
ping!
Oh, man. It’s not as if this site is overrun with McCain supporters . . . and you post what amounts to agitprop? Jeepers.
BS. You f’n blew it. Nice work. I hear they're looking for volunteers down at the DNC.
And forget the little tag about “Oh he left himself an out”. You're the one looking for an out. You blew it.
Thanks Freepers for pointing out the context.
I didn’t watch the speech.
A little? LOL
Dude, did you read the moderator addition to this thing? McCain the poster screwed the thread up from the beginning.
McCain or Obama will be president. Will you be doing anything to affect which one?
There’s an important lesson to be learned here: politicians should never talk about the future, lest someone thinks they are talking about the present. ;)
“Illegal immigration has been finally brought under control, and the American people accepted the practical necessity to institute a temporary worker program and deal humanely with the millions of immigrants who have been in this country illegally.”
He still will give them Amnesty.
There maybe something to that but this duffus let there McCain hate get the better of them. There is no way you pull something like this by accident. They knew they were posting an excerpt and they were cutting off the front to make a purposeful distortion.
I’m insulted that they thought Freepers were too stupid to catch on to what they were pulling. I guess they got bored with DU.
So it was either a trolling attempt (and a bad one at that), or a serious mental malfunction.
Comment:
If she filed separately from John then I see no need to view her private documents.
Let them drink beer would make a good tag line if I drank beer more than once a month.
Yes. I admit it. I fall upon my sword. I guess I just have a hair trigger when it comes to McCain and the immigration issue.I had walked into the room just as he talking about the excerpt above and I went apoplexic. I did not realize he was stating that was his vision. A thousand pardons.
I don’t want to keep drilling this in the ground but you keep hanging more rope out there for yourself. You had to go out on the net and search the text of his speach out. You had to scan down to the portion you remembered. You had to cut and paste it into a thread.
You weren’t careless, you were dishonest. That’s what you should be apologizing for.
I was not fooled at all by the post. I already know McCain’s talking point, slight of hand nonsence, word for word. The man has been saying the same line the entire time.
He wants to pass amnesty the very minute the border governors give him the political cover to do so.
Freepers, including me, wanted Kerry's wife to release her tax returns and eventually she did some of them. I do not recall anyone arguing that she should not.
And wasted no time in doing so based on the posting time.
Exactly. No wonder some people are reminded of the Manchurian Candidate whenever his name is mentioned.
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